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Continued string of failure Harvest after harvest.

Greenpassion

Greenpassion

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Don't know if some of you would call but months ago I started writing and with descriptions of my photos that all started to fail beginning in the 4th to 5th week of flowering. They got burnt looking leaves but they are not too close to the lights, the stems were weak and floppy and the buds fail to develop. Today I had to throw a pure power plant that didn't make it past at 7th week over the rail off my deck. I am so discouraged and so at a loss that I don't think I'm going to be able to even grow photos anymore. I followed the directions meticulously with the food, I changed my medium from promix to coast of Maine, the environment has been perfect as far as humidity moving air and Light. I have not seen any bugs at all except for a few very stray fungus gnats on occasion. I'm very depressed and discouraged about this. Things go through my mind like maybe I got a bad batch of Bloom food from Botanicare, or maybe there's something off with one of the other additives. I just don't know anymore and I'm afraid to the point where I am Frozen. On the other hand my Autos are doing fine. Same food, same soil, same light same environment. I have not had a problem with the Autos yet. just wanted to write in about the sad sad state of things here.
 
Stick with the autos - boost the light up to 24/7.
 

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just putting this out for consideration...@Mr.Furley posted this in another thread and it sure made me think:

Cannabis has a little hiccup about the second or third week of flowering for autoflower and at about week third to fourth week for photoperiod. My opinion on this matter is that the plant is changing gears and it's need for nutrients swing leave the coco with unwanted nutrients and sends the Ph out of whack.
I found that a good Ph water only flush in the 2nd/3rd week helps strip the medium clean for a restart, you csn use your flushing agent at this point as well. I will double up on bloom and drop my grow the following feed then resume my normal schedule for the flowering need.
I see a lot of PH problems on plants in the 4th week of flower and after fighting ph problem in Flowering a couple grows, I have just add this flush and feed shift to my routine. Call it Cannabis puberty.
 
Thank you duckman, but I'm growing in soil, not coco. I have only 3 photos left, now still in veg. I think as a last leap of faith, I'm going to do a soil flush, (15 gallons of ph'd water through each pot) and then transplant them into 7 gallon pots with fresh coast of Maine soil. If this doesn't turn things around, then I give up, and will stick to Autos.
 
Greenpassion You're not really growing in soil....most Promix is nothing but peat, with some lime thrown in to buffer the acid. You should probably be following a modified coco feeding program or put some actual dirt, compost and perlite in your pots.
 
There must be a misunderstanding. I am not growing in promix. I am growing in coast of Maine soil. I was growing in promix until 2 or so months ago, and I switched to coast of Maine thinking it would alleviate some of the problems.
 
Yes I have grown in kind soil. It works well for autos, but when I did a grow with photos it ran out of juice long before Harvest Time. That said, this time if I do a grow with photos using kind soil, I will repot them into fresh kind soil and the soil from coast of Maine, at the time I put them in to 12:12. So essentially it would be in veg, then repotting and fresh for flowering. My only problem with that is the expense.
 
They need fed. You haven't really committed to a nutrient program, there's lots of proven ones published, I'd pick one and follow it.
 
I have been using the botanicare line for over a year. Definitely committed to a nutrient program. I USED TO grow my Autos in kindsoil. I have always fed my photos with botanicare.
 
I just grew some photos in KS and they did great! Are you sure you used the right amount of soil and followed the guidelines for how long you can veg (based on container size and amount of KS)?
 
I used the right amount of is, but may have vegged a bit longer than 12 weeks. If I do end up growing photos in ks again, I'd repot into fresh ks at the start of the 12/12 stage...
 
Hard to know what's going on...your sig changed and the dialog doesn't match....You mean you used to grow your PHOTOS in Pro-mix and then changed to CoM? You say you've committed to a feeding schedule, but you're changing soil mid cycle and repotting at the switch. I try to do one thing at a time so I know what the effects are, positive or negative.

Each plant has different needs that a grower needs to be able to read. I don't expect different plants to perform the same under a feeding regiment. Two seeds out of the same pack will have different needs. Twelve weeks of veg?? This thing must be a tree after three months.
 
okay. I changed my Sig yesterday in order to clarify what I use now.
when I wchanged from one medium To a different one, it is not mid grow. initially, with photos, I grew several rounds of plants start to finish in Promix. Then for a new grow, the new seeds I started went right into coast of Maine. Through it all I have fed the botanicare line of nutrients. No switching around.
In the very beginning a year-and-a-half ago the first plants I ever grew I used kind soil for my Auto's. After that grow was complete, the next round of seeds were planted in the Pro mix. After that group was finished I started new seeds in coast of Maine. I changed this medium because I couldn't be sure that it wasn't the promix that was giving me a problem.
I don't mean to be confusing. I've never switched around anything mid grow. And yes I do know about different plants from the same seed batch needing different amounts of this or that. The plants at 12 weeks in veg we're fairly large, but the size was more width, as I was training them, so height wasn't really a problem.
the three photos that I have in veg right now we're started in coast of Maine and will finish in coast of Maine. But what I am going to do before I flip them into 12 12, is give them a pH water flush, and then put them in fresh coast of Maine soil. Then I will move them into the 12 12 room and I'll see what happens. I do hope it will be an improvement. I know it's a lot to follow...
 
Just putting this out but 12 weeks in veg is a long time... I usually flip to 12/12 around 6-7 or 8 . If I don't, there is not enough height to finish properly despite training as once a bud site is in progress, I am not touching it except for the lower hidden small ones. Finished plant may be 4' tall +/- with 26-30" before the lights interfere.
 
My own strategy is to maintain a light feeding schedule throughout the grow to avoid unnecessary flushing, and to pot up to the finished container size mid veg. If I can avoid extreme stressors on the plants, I'm able to read the signs of what they need more easily.
 
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