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Closet: light and fan/heat advice

Puglover1

Puglover1

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So my closet is 2' deep x 5'+ long x 8' high. I have 2 KIngLED 1200 lights. I don't have exhaust just a (broken) bathroom fan in the ceiling, going into the attic. I plan to either replace the motor/fan if it fits what I've got or get a new bathroom fan for there. I'm looking at a new light that I'll link. It is almost the same exact dimensions as my current lights but different type lighting and style. For this auto grow I could use the new light and one KingLED. Later I could put hooks in the ceiling and use all three for my photo grow, or have a veg closet with one. It's just under $100 incl tax ATM. Do you think the more full spectrum lighting would help me get frostier bud and be better than just my LED panels alone? I have to fix the fan soon, no other way to suck heat, the closet and bedroom doors are open and the house's AC is set at 71 to keep the closet under 80F. Sudden warmer weather for a week here. TIA for advice. Here's the link to the light:

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B081NB1...olid=3I7UI4UDB6LP2&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

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The broken bathroom fan, and the rod I'm using to hang my two panels which is partly why I'm hesitant to use the pulleys.

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I have 3 clip fans going, this one in front blows a little stronger but see the coiled cord to the right? That is so much easier, no cords hanging, easy to move. I just ordered another.
 
Farmbuck yours and panalilies are the same price right now after coupon, similar in size. I'm wondering which one would run less hot in my closet? I can leave the doors open now for autos but not when growing photos.
 
Hi panalilies, how are the new babies doing? Do you know any reason not to get the one with the timer, for $10 difference? Also, I know you're growing in the basement but still in an enclosed tent ... how hot do you think your light runs? Any input to offer on that? Thanks!
 
-My lights have my tent at 85F with both at 100% and no help from a heater. When the lights are off, the temp drops about 12+ degrees and I turn on a small heater to keep the temps at 73F. Not sure if that helps at all, but I feel like they dont get very warm; One light at 100% had my tent around 75-78F. i actually have both lights at 100% so it stays warm enough without a heater on when the lights are on. Both at 50% kept my tent around 80ish.
 
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I got one with a timer and one with out. You can daisy chain the one without a timer to one with, and both will run on the timer you set. They are doing great! Lights come on around 5pm, I gave them some nute water this morning. I have them about maybe 25-30 inches above the plants at 100% brightness and I dont feel any "burring" feeling when I put my hand above the seedling to see if its too warm. I do follow what the light manufacture recommends for distancing (the link shows the one without the timer since that was my most recent light purchase)
 
panalilies Overall did you ever struggle to keep your tent temps low enough, while experimenting/getting all set up? Did you buy the 2nd light to grow two plants? Prices are good right now. I won ten $25 visa e-gift cards that I put on my amazon account balance, waiting on more to arrive (hopefully).
 
panalilies I didn't see this comment first - Both lights at 100% goes to 85F with no exhaust venting? Right now I have nothing to pull the heat out, working on fixing that. I understand basement versus upstairs, I keep my AC set pretty low in summer and that bedroom has a vent in it plus the attached bathroom has one also. I'm thinking your lights do run less hot. Thanks.
 
Puglover1- I was worried that both lights on at 100% would be too hot, so I do have an oscillating fan on medium pointed at the space between the lights and the plants. I did get the 2nd light for both plants, I wanted to make sure that they had their own. During my first grow, I started another plant when my main one was flowering and it ended up taking all the light and I didnt want that to happen this time. I feel like I may have trouble getting the temps down when I go into the veg/ flowering phases and the temps need to be lower, but I have an exhaust system set up to help with any heat issues. One thing I noticed tho was the exhaust was also taking the humidity out of the tent, as well as the heat. I actually turned it off for now since it was like 30% RH in the tent with a humidifier going. If it gets any hotter than 85, I turn the fan up to high (but that hasnt happened yet). I could keep my lights at 50% until the plants start to veg if I needed to lower the temps or, I could raise them since I have them at the minimum recommended distance from plant to light
 
I wanted to buy a wall mount osc fan but not sure with the 2 foot depth of my closet. I burned through a tower fan, full-size, on the first grow. Working on my 3-speed osc tower fan now, trying to give it breaks when able. I have a different clip-on saved in a's wishlist but the coiled cord one is so nice to use. I need to water today, I want to bring them into the kitchen but I can't turn my back on the dang cat. Although, the plant he chewed on is probably going to turn out as well or better than the other two. It's just too late now to let the cat do all my trimming and training. LOL.
 
I have like two other table fans I can use, the wall mounted ones looked super expensive and I haven't been able to find a clip-fan with great reviews. I didnt even use a fan until the last 2 or 3 weeks of my grow so I feel like itll be okay. The stem on my plant was huge with whatever airflow I gave it. I also didnt set up my exhaust system until the latter half of my grow as well (I even had it backwards so it was blowing air into the tent). Im still having issues figuring out when I should water, I dont think Ive gone a full 24 hours without watering them yet. Id love to have a little kitty but super glad I dont have to worry about any animals messing with my plants lol
 
panalilies Have you subscribed to or read Canuck147 autoflower training thread? He says to wait until the pots are light to water in order for the roots to grow outward and downward. I syringed stems, then I used a cup to water a circle farther out. I've only watered to a little runoff 3-4 times so far. I still need to water with cal-mag tonight before I go to bed. Roll a number and spend some quality time with the girls. Where you're at now I'd spray the top of the soil with a little water for humidity but let the rest of the pots get dry and light. Just syringe the stems, then work outward in circles as they grow. I didn't have exhaust at the end of my 1st grow, closet too full and everything yo-yo'd in place, unable to get to the ceiling. And my hygrometer stuck, the temperature, the RH was accurate. It is a miracle that I harvested what I did and it works, gets people besides me high. I had removed fan leaves last time to prevent\too much moisture, mold, but I still had a tower fan going the whole time. I later added two clip fans. Someone last year was researching for safety issues, he chose this clip fan: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007Q3RRU/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_6?smid=A1KWOXLE942NOE&psc=1

The coiled cord one is a Holmes, same price as the one above: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007N4VGZO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 The Lasko blows hardest of my three current brands, I'll probably buy one of the first that I linked to above when the Genesis fan dies. I can blow almost as hard as it does right now.
 
Puglover1 - I did read his training thread and its STILL hard for me to water correctly ;-; I haven't ever watered enough for run-off, I usually split about 400ML (I think that's right) between them, but only when I wake up at like 7am or when I go to bed at night. How much would you syringe the stem? I have a lot of different sized ones can use. I do have my humidifier wafting over the plants, so I do know they are getting a good dose thru their leaves. I made a post to show the growth between yesterday and today for my CP #1- Ill try really hard tho to let the pot get dry before watering again, see what that looks like.

I told my dad I feel like a small-scale parent watching my plants grow daily and seeing all the changes lol

Yesterday-
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Today-
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Hey - I'm supposed to be on my way to Chicago - the driver's car broke down by Starved Rock on I-80, they can't get me there on time, I had to reschedule for July. Otherwise, I'd still be in bed. If you pre-watered the fabric pots before planting the seeds the bottom part of the soil medium stays wet a while. I used a 20 ml syringe, I just looked. The theory is to have the roots seek water from deep down below and spread toward the sides on their way down. Once you know the feel of a wet pot and let one dry out you'll get a feel for when they need watering. I didn't water a whole Solo cup for a few weeks. I also didn't water my plants last night, I gave them some stem water and misted the top soil to hold them over until today. Because I was getting up early I wanted to sleep a couple of hours. This is my Murphy's Law life. Don't make any plans because something will go awry. I eventually watered enough that there was seepage from the sides/bottoms but not in excess, because you're wasting what's already in your soil. Just enough water out to know you got enough in, if that makes sense?. It is fun to watch autos grow, see how the plants develop, very educational. I might go back to bed. TTYL.
 
​Oh geez, Ive had my car break down on the highway before- its a very scary feeling. I didnt pre-water the soil, even tho I had asked a coupe people about the benefits of it. I didnt give myself enough time to try the pre-soak before my seeds were ready to be planted. Every time Ive tried to make plans with like my friends and co-workers, those always get cancelled. But I have my own car so if I need to go somewhere, Im able to. TN doesnt have public transportation and everything is spread out so your basically SOL if you dont have a car (Uber wont go to the boonies, my parents live where they dont have cell service STILL). If I didnt work an 8-5, Id so be asleep. My BF got up for a work call that ended up cancelled. He came downstairs just to tell me he was going to go back to bed, so jealous​
 
I told the boss who called that I wish the driver could just drive my car, he was 15 minutes from getting here. I had my thyroid removed in 2012, they took out a parathyroid gland and now I'm hypoparathyroid - only gland in our whole body without a replacement hormone. I struggle with low calcium and the symptoms that causes. One of which is muscle cramps to the point of tetany, stuck. I was driving home from Ottawa vet Friday, reached for something for the dog and my R side started cramping, I was in a construction zone, nowhere to pull over. This is why I take the insurance-covered rides to Chicago. They even took me to Ann Arbor MI for an appt with a researcher in my rarest disease, 1-3 per million people have it. I have Comcast internet but Uber won't come here, no Uber Eats, no Door Dash and I have over $100 credit on my Uber acct. My town is less than a mile from the next town east but in a different county. I couldn't even get Chicago TV channels when I had DirecTV, no public trans except vans for medical or one that runs certain hours/day but you have to schedule in advance and they only serve 1 or 2 counties, they won't cross the line to go to Morris/Grundy County. Yet we are a transportation hub: railroads, river/barges and two Interstates intersect: I-80 and I-39. Big Wal-Mart distribution center in my town, other dist centers by Ottawa, Petsmart is one. One small town NE of me is mostly in my county but some people across the highway live in LaSalle County. My town is on the IL River to the south, three counties meet right around there. Because it's a river valley I wouldn't be able to get TV channels with a $300 digital flat indoor antenna; go across the river and the car pulls in Peoria radio stations, go 20 minutes west and get Quad Cities radio. It really sucks sometimes.
 
Yeah, if my parents want to use their phones, they either get apps for wifi or go about 5 minutes up the road and they have service there. We only had dial-up until about 10 years ago, when they finally got WIFI. Eesh, I would also do Uber if I had to worry about anything like that happening while driving. We lived about 30 minutes from any real "city". When I turned 18 and moved out, I never looked back. I cant imagine going back to living where I didnt have all the conveniences that I have now. I never used UberEats until I moved to IL. Even tho my grandmother lived in a subdivision about 5 miles from the main city of Franklin TN, they wouldnt deliver. My grandfather had thyroid cancer, thats about the only experience I have with it, so I know its a throat thing. Did they have to remove the parathyriod gland? Like, did they know that you could/would be hypoparathyroid if they removed it?
 
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