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can bad genetics by shit breeders be grown into great smoke by quality growers?

wibe

wibe

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how far can the green thumb take you in the realm of cannabis cultivation?

can our state of the art tech and knowledge be applied to end up with quality smoke despite low test seeds with terrible yield qualities etc.. made worse by bad breeders introducing more herm likelyhood and soft/poorly developed seeds that reportedly dont have high germination rates?
 
To some extent yes but so many variables that go into it. Short answer no....but everyone has had different results with shit seeds. Myself included. But can't turn shit into gold. Even with the Midas touch.:frown::confused:
 
I imagine a great farmer could get a decent harvest that some beginners would find acceptable but he/she would be disappointed. You can't squeeze blood outta a turnip.
 
Lol your reply hit as I was typing mine.
But actually pig farmers have been turnin the shit into electric gold for years now
 
I honestly have to disagree the question as I read it is could you get good quality and quantity out of bad genetics.. my reply would be yes.. but only after years of cultivation and hard work.. like you would have to get a male breed it and keep selecting to the desired traits.. however that would take a long time and resources that you could just go get better genetics and start off better.. overall making the bad genetics.. a terrible place to start..
 
Makes no sense... bad gens equals bad quality.. you cant make a pig pretty can you? exept puting on lipstick ;)
 
wibe Just curious, how did you figure out they were bad genes?, and by shit breeders do you mean they are a bunch of dicks, bad customer service etc.? And not for nuthin but my first try at growing I had found part of a bag of what we used to call Mexican dirt weed stuffed in the back of a tool box probably cause it was shitweed . I dropped a few seeds out of it, put up some cfls and grew a couple of plants that turned to be bombassed bud. I had people tell me it was better than any they had gotten from Colorado pot shops. Beginners luck? You betcha, nurture or nature? Who's to say.
 
i do suppose "quality" is relative and the "great farmer" reply rings true..

just a philisophical question, it wasn't in response to a situation or anything.. i am just wondering what experienced growers are feeling these days.

so impressed with aeroponics and the current level of understanding between feeding and environment, i wonder if anyone would prefer to have their grow room over their choice of good genetics if it came down to it.

​​​​​​​might make for an entertaining competition.. clone ditchweed and give contestants a budget and 2 clones.
 
That’s a very city citizen response... a true farmer will tell you
“I can take a shit plant and make a good yielder”
Most good genetics came from what old school growers could get and grow.. old school farmers generally grow the same thing each year selecting for the best qualities till they are satisfied... that’s how strains are created... rather it’s in a lab or in a field.. they all come from somewhere.. and generally today.. it’s so hard not to find something ok
That’s why again I say it depends on effort wanted to be put out..
60% of all the good strains are created by accident and then copied.. like apples.. you can’t mix two apple trees and expect the same type of apple... and I mean no offense to anyone on here by any means but that is the fundamental difference between true farmers and big corporation farms..
because of the way corporations have made things all the hard work farmers have put into making things so good has been forgotten because corporations can pump out quantity sacrificing quality.. now I know weed is a bit different but all the best everything in the world is usually in smaller quantities... wild fish is generally better kobe beef is better(they are breed in smaller numbers) koi bred for perfection.. tomatoes.. everything we know and love today.. started with shit genetic and became so much better because of small time farmers that’s why yes I love the good stuff we have today but don’t knock the random bag seed because it might be the next gorilla glue which was created by mistake.. or the next hass Alvarado which was created by a dentist in his back yard.. ugh.. sorry rambling
 
dont appreciate the thread jacking but it looks like the conversations dead.

is this a meme retard forum now too?
 
not rambling at all.. i think you gave a very seasoned response. something i was hinting at.

if you have a system dialed in an get ditchweed you can still probably germ 50 and recognize the nest 3 and nerture the cotyldons off them and end up with a decent product with all be it a lot more effort than if you started with fire.

i'm of the same dispoisition. if you dont like what you got then change it.

antithesis of "it is what it is"
 
Boy, JDU those hillbilly comments just keep comin’..... love it ....

You know, ..these kinda things are fading from our lexicon as our society creates legions of smart asses, politically correct idiots and yuppies...😱. I just loved Uncle Jed’s seement pond!
 
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