I thought you had to roll it longer using the hot water jar method. My kief is a nice light tan. I used the greener stuff in joints or bongs. I just pH'd 2 gallons, I need to water 2 plants, wash my hair, and change cat litter still today. And checkout two throw rugs I left in the washing machine, last week. Maybe I'll try jar-rolling some hash later tonight. I'm out of anything except Mag, and some jarred Lemon bud that I'd have to roll a spliff to get high, probably. And a little street wax. When I take Grumpy to the vet Wednesday I'm going to see if he can go in the head shop with me to see if I can try to find someone that presses. Best hash I ever smoked was black and hard, friends did a Euro rail trip decades ago. Best weed buzz ever was a pin joint for four people, straight from Jamaica via a vagina.