A new grow, GG#4/WW/BW

[GreenState]

Yes indeed OJH, yesterday was a moral booster for sure! Although, back into the low teens at night here until midweek.
I appreciate everyone's comments, fingers crossed the GG holds out and continues to be productive. Was doing a bit of research on the estimated blue widow flowering time, according to most sites it's a pretty short period plant. I saw as low as 42 days , other sites, generally "6-8 wks". I'm sure there are multiple breeders though. I'll have to start watching her a bit closer in the near future.
The white widow, while tall and lanky is starting to win my heart over. Looking forward to smoking a sativa dominate weed, it's probably been 20 years, maybe longer. My supply guy has always grown indica dominate weed.

 

[oldjarhead100]

a fantastic day indeed to bad I came down with a head cold yesterday when the wind picked up the chickens said f this and went back in the barn

 

[alltatup]

Sorry to hear about the head cold, OJH!!! Get better soon.

 

[GreenState]

Sorry to hear you're feeling under the weather OJH. Probably worn down from working all those plants! (g). Hopefully it isn't the flu or something, my sister got that second strain of the flu and knock her for a loop. So another dose of cal-mag this morning and a weak solution of nuets (1/2 of recommended strength for entering wk 7 since flip). Coming into those amazing, critical wks 7 & 8, when the magic really happens (ha).
Lay low and rest!

 

[GreenState]

Well, nothing I have done has seemed to improve my angry gorilla. The 2 different strain widows continue to be happy girls.
So I don't know. I have decided to finish the grow with water only, the white widow looks like it will be the last to finish and still might be a ways away. I'd say a few more weeks for the blue widow. We'll see on the GG4, still seeing production but I think she's certainly being held back by the dying leaves. I expect quantity will take a hit, but quality should be good.
But, I wonder if my issues aren't a result of hot soil, maybe accumulated nuets, or possibly the FFOF soil or combination of both. Funny though the widows are unaffected so far. Seems everything was great through veg and first 4 weeks of flower, then bang on the gorilla.
We'll definitely pick up a PH kit for the next go. And maybe look into different soil, but again the widows look fine.
Snowing out this morning

 

[oldjarhead100]

I used to grow in coco and not water every day about 4 weeks into bloom they would lock out on me and I would have to flush I used a saucer that had holes in it and put that over a 5 gallon bucket then pour 5 gallons of water though it works but takes alot of water ,when I did GG I was a few days from harvesting and no big buds so I gave them a heavy dose of molasses's and 3 days later I could not get my fingers around the buds post a pic of the gg would you please

 

[GreenState]

I'll try and get a pic when I turn the lights off this evening.
Basically it starts by a yellowing of the veins in the leaves, spreads and then brown spots appear. Leaves begin to crinkle up. Pretty much just on fan leaves, but even the tiny ones.
Leaves in the shade are far less affected. It is throughout the plant not just top or bottom.

 

[GreenState]

So I'm going/am flushing it again. She's awful floppy and hard to move around.
Looking at the gwe symptoms page, I'd lean towards nitrogen toxicity. BWDIK (g)

 

[oldjarhead100]

I hate problems like that I'll look back on my records but I think GG was a little finicky , thats the hard part of growing more than one strain at a time ,you can never zero in on that sweet spot ,you have to go with what the weakest strain will tolerate

 

[oldjarhead100]

Its awful white out there did you get snow last night to it only looks like a dusting

 

[GreenState]

We got a few inches, windy and blowing snow this morning. It's still winter here, I usually get up and going around the 17th of April, funny how that works out. And that date has changed big time, use to be closer to the second week of May as a start date. Now run well into Nov., a month later. Go figure. So the white widow appears to have nice tops, much fluffier and pointier than the blue widow. Hard to believe how totally different the widows are from one another. One tall, one short, one dense, one fluffy budded. WW pistils are long, BW's are very short.
We'll just let the GG plug along and see what we will see. Trimming will be more of a pain I'm sure. Hopefully she'll sense the end is nearing and signal to the buds that it's time to tighten up every chance they get and get the job done! (ha)

 

[oldjarhead100]

I have one of those bud spinners/trimmers and depending on the strain ,I have no problem droping the whole bud with fans on it and spin away then I use all of the trim in the bowl for hash,oil,wax whatever I need hell I've smoked it before not bad in a pinch lol

 

[GreenState]

I would love one of those spinner/trimmers. I hate trimming.
So here at day 50 since flip is-the GG is still building and fattening up the buds, thought about trimming off the discolored leaves, but figured they were still supplying energy to the plant. Widows are plumping as well, trichs are still glassy clear.
Beautiful day out today, a taste of things to come

 

[oldjarhead100]

it is a necessity when the outdoor grows come in , I helped a friend get started growing and when his outdoor grow came in he asked to borrow it , wrong time of year its not leaving my house now if you want to use it bring your stuff here and you can but it doesn't leave here lol, A auto takes about 20 min. depending how big 20 min. is for about 2 ounces .

 

[GreenState]

I'm only good for trimming one plant a day (g). So here's a question, do you do anything differently when drying,curing and especially storing real sticky weed?
Is it more apt to run into mold issues?
I think the blue widows vigor has slowed quite a bit. So I'll be need to go on trich watch soon
(did I see near 70 degrees in bean town for Sat.?)

 

[oldjarhead100]

np I dont do anything different I weigh my buds before drying so I dont worry about how they feel ,I would try and keep them as loose so no packing jars lol

 

[GreenState]

We have a problem. I see a seed and on closer inspection nanners just becoming visible on the GG4.
Day 54 of flowering. I think I should chop it down, she's been a problem child.
opinions? I hate to see the widows get seeded.
Wonder if I could move it to another room and finish it out in front of a window, au natural?
Day length currently is about 12 1/2hr.

 

[GreenState]

My new "window sill" plant. Have to get it out of the closet.
Not sure if you can see the seed in the pic or nanners in the other. The color of nanners is what always catches my eye. (both are at the tip of the buds--two different buds)
Edit-----If there is an upside, at least the widows can now spread their wings.
A pic of the BW also

 

[GreenState]

This actually royally sucks. Will be a pain in the ass to pull this off. Adapted a tomato cage to help support the floppy girl, as I'm going to have to move it around a lot. Find a dark closet to keep her on schedule.
Now that she is out, for sure confirmation of nanners in the beginning stage. I wouldn't complain if I get a few seeds off her.
Trying to convince myself some trichs are cloudy, but think it's wishful thinking. Generally wait to see a few amber to confirm. I have to be careful of the sunlight as well, stronger than my grow light for sure..
Supposedly 60-65 days to finish, but you know how that goes

 

[Mr.furley]

GS
1) if you have found seeds and nanners the damage is already don't and the best thing to do is to not move the plant around alot or at all to reduce spreading pollen.
2) as close as you are with the date just let it finish up the needed 7 to 10 days.
3) although dreaded, it's not the end of the world. Mist your plant with water before handling and moving, handle last, and wash your hands when done.