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4th grow starting want input, please.

bluecanoe

bluecanoe

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I have finally harvested my last crop, it took several trimmings until all the buds were mature but I got there! Now that those buds are drying, I'm germinating my two new seeds for this next grow. But I do have questions.
1) Fiber pot users, how clean do you get your pots before re-use? Mine seem to have roots hung in the bottom of the pot and I can't get them out! I've washed and scrubbed and cleaned and still have a small root or three, is this going to bother my next grow?
2) I'm germinating my seeds, after soaking overnight, in plastic cups. I have a 60w cfl light on about a foot + above the cups. How long per day do I leave the light on? 24/7? 12 hours a day? Just curious what everyone else does. I've germinated each of my last 3 grows a different way.
3) I couldn't afford more Kind Soil for this grow, and couldn't get any Green Fields that Old Jar Head suggested. The closest place to get it was Nashville, and we won't be going back there til April, and some place in AL 2 hours away. I found something called Magic Dirt, has no nutrients in it, and something else that's 100% organic. I heard that Amazon, Home Depot and Walmart are selling cannabis friendly, Kind Soil type medium, called So-Hum, but it's online only and to have it shipped costs a ton! So I might have to go back to the way it was before Kind Soil....I hate it because I liked the ease of Kind Soil. And didn't like using nutrients.

I want to have as good a grow as I did this last time. And the seeds are new to me. But, I'm off to the races again! Wish me luck!! I didn't weigh what I trimmed because it was wet and had a ton of stems, so I'll wait til it's dry and weigh it up. I know it was a lot and I'm very pleased with the Sweet Soma, and hope that once the Diesel Kush gets cured I'll like it too.



Current grow:
2-300w led lights
1- 60w cfl for germination
2- 5 gal fiber pots
Magic Dirt on bottom of one pot, 100% organic with worm castings in the bottom of second pot
Compost (80%)/perlite (20%)
Seeds:
Shaolin Master auto/fem
Bubbly Chem auto/fem
 
Good luck with your new grow! For germination, I have tried a few things and when I didn't get one of my new seeds to germinate, I tried again following the breeder recommended procedure and this worked great for the second seed. I believe you want to have your seed in water in complete darkness. Have a look at this link: https://2fast4buds.com/news/germinationguide
 
Hi Bluecanoe!

I just started a new batch of autos. Kept an eye on them closely with thermometers, soaking overnight, just like you, seems to be the best -haven't tried the propagation tray yet-. Thing is i kept it over the heater, somehow it didn't grow, the soil was not hot enough (even though water was evaporating over the course of hours, in the tray, not in the pots which were cold & damp). So after 24 hours and still cold pots, i kept them in the sun. Suddenly they start drying up, sprouting. It's just my second grow, I wanted to input this little thing about bottom heat that wasn't doing the trick.
(Yes you use your lamps to heat them up. It's also to say that it doesn't matter how many hours they get in the beginning, it should just be warm and humid for the seed to develop properly. You could keep it on for 24 the first few days, then slowly reduce to 18 or whatever is your schedule. Since they are autos actually you could keep them on 20 hours a day for their whole life.)

Also, I use special seed soil (sowing soil?), it's very airy. Very hard to get it to swallow water, it mostly sit on top as a fat layer if you see what i mean. I use a spray to wet the first layer, and then you can slowly pour water. It has no nutrients in it as well, or very little.
With this I use some biodegradable cardboard pots for seeds... Once they are sprouting nicely I directly plant the cardboard -in the ground last year- in a pot this year.
I have a garden, so I make my own compost, super soil whatever you call it.
Good luck on that grow!
 
gdog, it's already too late to do it the way your link says. The seeds stayed in water for 24 hours, on the kitchen counter so they only went dark when the house did, then went into the soil. So much for that. I've had pretty good experience with germination, only lost two seeds out of the last 3 grows.

Minoo, thanks for the input. I am in no hurry for the germination to take place, it'll happen when it happens. I only germinate 2 seeds each grow, it's all I need and I want a perpetual grow and I like a variety so I grow two different strains each time. I use a sprayer while the plant is still small, once I replant it, I water around it and never water to run off, but since I'm not using kind soil I might start.
I keep my lights on 24 hours during the entire grow, and would put my seeds in the sun, but I don't have a south or west facing window with a sill or ledge that I can just put the cups on to get the real thing. I'm a gardener myself, don't make my own compost yet, although I've been thinking about it. I believe that if you can grow tomatoes or peppers or flowers then you can grow cannabis. And I've done better with each grow, easier grows and more yield.
 
I wish u a lots of luck with your new grow,🍀 and I guess u made out ok with the electrician?
I would recommend mixing perlite in your soil ( 20% ) or even more it helps getting 02 to the roots
and can b found at the depot cheep. It also lets water drain thru not turning the soil into mud ! Lol
 
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Hey bluecanoe
As far as the fabric pots go, I have heard that putting them in the dishwasher works. No detergent on a regular wash cycle. Have not actually tried this, but I am planning to soon. I also think boiling them would work for the same reason.
Regarding CFL use during germination. If the purpose is heat, then probably 24/0 is best. Cannabis seeds require neither light nor darkness to germinate, but/therefore lights can be used for warmth
 
Potted, yes, I use at least 20% perlite. They are done on the inside of the house, and yep, I got by! They only had to go into that room except once but I kept the door open so nobody would think anything. My brother-in-law and sister came over the other day and they both said they didn't smell anything. And they would have! I think it's because it keep the tent open most of the day during the grow and the smell is just the smell of my house with some incense, and a squirt or two of peppermint spray.
Now we are past the smell for now I have the drying buds inside the tent with a small fan for circulation and when the inspector comes, I'll put up the blanket and picture in front of the tent and voila, it will disappear long enough to let him see the dehumidifier.
Thanks for the reminder of the perlite. I hope you've dug out from all the Nor'Easters and that spring comes soon for you.
 
Campesino, I won't put the pots in my dishwasher. We don't have sewer only septic and I don't want to get anything clogged up. Boiling them would be a big old pain in the butt. I guess I'll just take a stiff bristled brush and scrub some more.
I'm using the cfl for heat, since we have been having some cool snaps and I want the seeds to stay the same temp.
 
I suppose you have things well in hands then! :D Your first message sounded hesitant, but surely you've seen that every grow teaches new tricks, even to those more experienced than us ;)
Marijuana is quite easy(=forgiving) to grow in the end...
I like your idea of trying new strains every couple of seed. If I had the cash for, I'd also do that... It'll let you know which strain you like better so that finally, in the end, you will only grow your favorite strain of them all. A bit like Lord of the Rings but MJ version. ;)
 
UrbZ, I don't have either one near me! I live in the sticks and honestly haven't seen a laundromat, and I'd be looking all over for a car wash.
 
I turn them inside out and spray with a hose take off all the roots I can see and hang on the clothes line I’ve left some hanging for a month. Can b used any time after thay dry tho with out any problems. Lol
 
Ahh gotcha bummer, living in the boonies can have its downfalls. I would say a regular old pressure washer if you got one. Another idea. You can probably get a fairly cheap small electric one. Honestly I think the time saved from scrubbing would be worth it.
 
Or buy a turbojet attachment for your hose... I think thats what its called. Its 20 bucks it turns a normal hose into a jet nozzle.
 
UrbZ, we have one of those jet nozzles, my husband insists on having one, but my luck the damn thing would end up down the street! I do have a hard spray on my shower head, might use that once I get the rest of the dirt out of the second bag, it will at least keep the bag contained in the tub. I'm a few weeks out from needing them so surely they'll be dry by then!
 
I have two tiny little sprouts today! So now to get off my thumb and finish cleaning the fiber pots and mixing my soil. We are awaiting strong storms and lots of rain so I won't be sitting outside doing anything. The contractors will be back Friday, so I won't be mixing any soil in front of them. Looks like the weekend will be spent cleaning pots and mixing soil. Oh how hard we work! HAHAHAHA! I can't wait to see what my new plants have in store for me.
 
My tiny little shoots grew 2 inches overnight and have a second set of leaves on them already! I was shocked. So I went ahead and cleaned my fiber pots, got the roots off the bottom with a stiff bristled brush, put in the bottom soil, kept each bag labeled so I'll know which one is the best to use, then mixed my compost and perlite. It was a fiasco. The compost is still wet, I thought it would be dry by now since it's been sitting in my shed for months. I got it mixed up with the perlite, and as I was going to sit back down I missed my seat and landed on my ass in the shed! I'm not a small person and have a lot of physical issues that make it hard for me to get up. My dear husband offered me his hand but, I refused and managed to get up by myself. I looked like a pig that had rolled in mud! But, the pots are filled and ready to receive the seedlings once they are big enough. I don't want them getting spindly and falling over so I might put them in their forever home tomorrow, if I can move. And since the compost is already wet it might be a good thing.
I fleeced the last stems of my last grow and got .38 oz from the Sweet Soma, and .98 oz from the Diesel Kush. I'm happy as a lark with the results. I have plenty to last until my next harvest I think, even with giving some to others.
I hope I can move tomorrow! I'm already feeling the soreness from landing on a concrete floor. Oh well, the price we pay for great smoke.
I've been making some stem tea. I let the stems soak overnight in a saucepan, then this afternoon I added about 2 tbs butter, and started them on medium. They are still in there at a low simmer. I figure if I let the goodness cook out of them, the better and more effective the tea will be. I'll keep experimenting until I find a way to get the best stem tea possible.
 
I lowered the light over the seedlings so hopefully they don't try to stretch themselves to death. I want to wait until the roots are well developed before I put them in a 5 gallon pot. I definitely don't want the roots going nuts and the plant doing nothing.
 
Let us know how the stem tea turns out, I used to like the idea, but I understood if you grow MJ yourself, a stem tea will never be strong enough. Maybe a trim tea would work better?
 
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