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insomniaczzz
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Soil seems fine, but I think you should mix in a good amount of perlite to keep it nice and loose. JMO
Green75
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No way....way to much of first two ingredients which should be zilch...not enough of the third...coco coir...then some organic slow release nitrogen....No way...
Ground up forest ....is wood bark...noooo
Can you not order off the internet .....something more suitable....
My opinions obviously..
Ground up forest ....is wood bark...noooo
Can you not order off the internet .....something more suitable....
My opinions obviously..
insomniaczzz
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Green knows way more than me, listen to him......I still think you need perlite in there.
Royal Nugs
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Not a huge fan of the soil, but you could make due. Definitely add some perlite, like insomniac suggested. If you have access to better media, I'd transplant to that.
I use bush doctor coco loco by fox farms. There are plenty of good cannabis medias.
I use bush doctor coco loco by fox farms. There are plenty of good cannabis medias.
Lotusyde
Banned
Rumman69
Luckily for you I have 16 years experience with organic farming and am a science nerd with some free time tonight.
The texture of the medium determines its water-holding and draining properties. Marijuana must have a well-drained medium for healthy growth. Soils that hold too much water or hold it unevenly can drown the roots, leading to poor growth or death of the plant. In a well- drained soil the roots are in contact with air as well as water. Soils that have too much clay, or are overly rich in compost or other organic matter, tend to hold too much water and not enough air.
This condition worsens in time. This is especially true of the soil in pots.
You can determine the texture of your soil from its appearance and feel. Dry soil should never cake or form crusts. Dry or slightly moist soil that feels light-weight, airy, or spongy when squeezed, and has a lot of fibrous material, will hold a lot of water. Mix it with materials which decrease its water-holding capacity, such as sand, perlite.
Wet soil should remain spongy or loose and never sticky. A wetted ball of soil should crumble or separate easily when poked.
Soil that feels heavy and looks dense with fine particulate matter, or is sandy or gritty, will benefit by being loosened and lightened with fibrous materials such as vermiculite, or sometimes sphagnum moss.
Soil Conditioners to Improve Texture
Perlite (expanded sand or volcanic glass) is a practically weightless horticultural substitute for sand. Sand and perlite contribute no nutrients of their own and are near neutral in pH. They hold water, air, and nutrients from the medium on their irregular surfaces and are particularly good at aerating the soil.
Vermiculite (a micaceous material) and sphagnum moss contribute small amounts of their own nutrients and are near neutral in pH. They hold water, air, and nutrients in their fiber and improve the texture of sandy or fast-draining soils. Similar mixes are made of ground vermiculite and sphagnum moss, and are fortified with a small amount of all the necessary nutrients. They are available at neutral pH, are good soil conditioners, and are also useful for germinating seeds.
In the case of your soil..
Sphagnum and Peat Moss (certain fibrous plant matter) are sometimes used by growers to improve water holding and texture. Both work well in small amounts (10 to 15 percent of soil mixture). In excess, they tend to make the medium too acidic after a few months of watering.
So with a soil like yours they are sometimes manufactured entirely from wood and bark fiber, composts, and soil conditioners. These mixes are made to hold a lot of water and slowly release nutrients over a period of time, which is what most house plants require. For marijuana, these mixes seldom contain enough nutrients to support healthy growth for more than a couple of months. (Their N is usually low, P adequate, and K usually very high.) They work best when sand or perlite is added to improve drainage, and fertilizers are added to offset their low nutrient content.
But from my experience in organic botany the npk level is just fine for starters. Sorry to drag on
Long story short
Each soil has its own unique properties. These properties determine how the soil and plants will interact. For our purposes, all soils can be classified as sands, silts, clays, mucks, and loams. And good organic soils are usually a combination of these. If you look carefully at a handful of soil, you may notice sand granules, pieces of organic matter, bits of clay. Etc etc etc. So im sure you'll be just fine. Just make sure they bleed when watering and you'll be good. Your npk levels are just fine for the initial veg process. Facts and opinions may vary. I can't wait to see your plants progess
Any questions???
Luckily for you I have 16 years experience with organic farming and am a science nerd with some free time tonight.
The texture of the medium determines its water-holding and draining properties. Marijuana must have a well-drained medium for healthy growth. Soils that hold too much water or hold it unevenly can drown the roots, leading to poor growth or death of the plant. In a well- drained soil the roots are in contact with air as well as water. Soils that have too much clay, or are overly rich in compost or other organic matter, tend to hold too much water and not enough air.
This condition worsens in time. This is especially true of the soil in pots.
You can determine the texture of your soil from its appearance and feel. Dry soil should never cake or form crusts. Dry or slightly moist soil that feels light-weight, airy, or spongy when squeezed, and has a lot of fibrous material, will hold a lot of water. Mix it with materials which decrease its water-holding capacity, such as sand, perlite.
Wet soil should remain spongy or loose and never sticky. A wetted ball of soil should crumble or separate easily when poked.
Soil that feels heavy and looks dense with fine particulate matter, or is sandy or gritty, will benefit by being loosened and lightened with fibrous materials such as vermiculite, or sometimes sphagnum moss.
Soil Conditioners to Improve Texture
Perlite (expanded sand or volcanic glass) is a practically weightless horticultural substitute for sand. Sand and perlite contribute no nutrients of their own and are near neutral in pH. They hold water, air, and nutrients from the medium on their irregular surfaces and are particularly good at aerating the soil.
Vermiculite (a micaceous material) and sphagnum moss contribute small amounts of their own nutrients and are near neutral in pH. They hold water, air, and nutrients in their fiber and improve the texture of sandy or fast-draining soils. Similar mixes are made of ground vermiculite and sphagnum moss, and are fortified with a small amount of all the necessary nutrients. They are available at neutral pH, are good soil conditioners, and are also useful for germinating seeds.
In the case of your soil..
Sphagnum and Peat Moss (certain fibrous plant matter) are sometimes used by growers to improve water holding and texture. Both work well in small amounts (10 to 15 percent of soil mixture). In excess, they tend to make the medium too acidic after a few months of watering.
So with a soil like yours they are sometimes manufactured entirely from wood and bark fiber, composts, and soil conditioners. These mixes are made to hold a lot of water and slowly release nutrients over a period of time, which is what most house plants require. For marijuana, these mixes seldom contain enough nutrients to support healthy growth for more than a couple of months. (Their N is usually low, P adequate, and K usually very high.) They work best when sand or perlite is added to improve drainage, and fertilizers are added to offset their low nutrient content.
But from my experience in organic botany the npk level is just fine for starters. Sorry to drag on
Long story short
Each soil has its own unique properties. These properties determine how the soil and plants will interact. For our purposes, all soils can be classified as sands, silts, clays, mucks, and loams. And good organic soils are usually a combination of these. If you look carefully at a handful of soil, you may notice sand granules, pieces of organic matter, bits of clay. Etc etc etc. So im sure you'll be just fine. Just make sure they bleed when watering and you'll be good. Your npk levels are just fine for the initial veg process. Facts and opinions may vary. I can't wait to see your plants progess
Any questions???
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insomniaczzz
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LOL at the above comments. 
Karlee
New member
Hi Rum
Come over to the hydro side growing, not one soil problem will you find!
Here is an article about what needs to be in the soil you use to grow pot.
https://buildasoil.com/blogs/news/1...ut-super-soil-the-super-soil-recipe-breakdown
Come over to the hydro side growing, not one soil problem will you find!
Here is an article about what needs to be in the soil you use to grow pot.
https://buildasoil.com/blogs/news/1...ut-super-soil-the-super-soil-recipe-breakdown
Lotusyde
Banned
Karlee, thanks for the feedback. I feel like the more I explain the better. I'm sure my wife thinks I drag on lol so here's the basics from my understanding. Being that I dont know specifics about your strain or set up I'll make a well informed general rant. Like us all I'm still a student and am far from my masters degree in botany.
Well growing plants in containers use a closed ecology system. Once the plants use the nutrients in the medium, their growth and health is curtailed until more nutrients become available to them. It is up to the grower to supply the nutrients required by the plants. The addition of organic matter such as compost or manure to the medium allows the plant to obtain nutes for a while without the use of water-soluble fertilizers. Certain organic fertilizers like manure brings pests we wanna avoid...
However, once these nutrients are used up, growers usually add water-soluble nutes when they water. Without realizing it, they are gardening hydroponically. Hydroponics is the art of growing plants, usually without soil, using water-soluble fertilizers as the main or sole source of nutrients. The plants are grown in a non-nutritive medium such as gravel or sand or in lightweight materials such as perlite, vermiculite or styrofoam and clay. Some green thumbs prefer the advantages of a hydroponic system over conventional horticultural methods are numerous: dry spots, root drowning and soggy conditions do not occur. (Boooo!) Nutrient and pH problems are largely eliminated since the grower maintains tight control over their concentration (although alot of people over do it and kill everything); there is little chance of "lockup" which occurs when the nutrients are fixed in the soil and unavailable to the plant; plants can be grown more conveniently in small containers; and owing to the fact that there is no messing around with soil, the whole operation is easier, cleaner, and much less bothersome than when using conventional growing. So that can attribute to the same strain growing with different results as well as the collective info and experience that each grower has.
How ever if the force is stong in you, living organic soil can be just as fruitful and potent as hydro. That's just my opinion though.
Hope that answers your question, if you have any specific questions about your strain Idk that much about different strains and their needs yet. But I know a thing or two about organic farming & gardening
Well growing plants in containers use a closed ecology system. Once the plants use the nutrients in the medium, their growth and health is curtailed until more nutrients become available to them. It is up to the grower to supply the nutrients required by the plants. The addition of organic matter such as compost or manure to the medium allows the plant to obtain nutes for a while without the use of water-soluble fertilizers. Certain organic fertilizers like manure brings pests we wanna avoid...
However, once these nutrients are used up, growers usually add water-soluble nutes when they water. Without realizing it, they are gardening hydroponically. Hydroponics is the art of growing plants, usually without soil, using water-soluble fertilizers as the main or sole source of nutrients. The plants are grown in a non-nutritive medium such as gravel or sand or in lightweight materials such as perlite, vermiculite or styrofoam and clay. Some green thumbs prefer the advantages of a hydroponic system over conventional horticultural methods are numerous: dry spots, root drowning and soggy conditions do not occur. (Boooo!) Nutrient and pH problems are largely eliminated since the grower maintains tight control over their concentration (although alot of people over do it and kill everything); there is little chance of "lockup" which occurs when the nutrients are fixed in the soil and unavailable to the plant; plants can be grown more conveniently in small containers; and owing to the fact that there is no messing around with soil, the whole operation is easier, cleaner, and much less bothersome than when using conventional growing. So that can attribute to the same strain growing with different results as well as the collective info and experience that each grower has.
How ever if the force is stong in you, living organic soil can be just as fruitful and potent as hydro. That's just my opinion though.
Hope that answers your question, if you have any specific questions about your strain Idk that much about different strains and their needs yet. But I know a thing or two about organic farming & gardening
Karlee
New member
Thanks so much Lotus I'm growing Gold Leaf*** from ILGM. It's different then then Amnesia haze I just grew, doesn't like misting and to much water in propagating will kill them but is a fast grower. I've started training one, so far so good. I read they want to be tall like the haze so I'm main-lining to 8 cola's.
Do you know anything about these plants?
I'd grow good with dirt but I'm in love with the hydro set up LOL
Do you know anything about these plants?
I'd grow good with dirt but I'm in love with the hydro set up LOL