D.A.A.S.69
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Looking very nice, some plants can take more nutes than others, that's a fact..
Less is usually always better.imo.
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LurkingInTheGrass
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NL (Canuk)
75 days from seed
Doing great. She is finally coming into her stride (it's not fair, I keep comparing her growth to the LoJ, but she is 10 days behind)
LoJ (AMS)
85 days from seed
doing great. Some of secondary stems are almost to the edge of the pot
changed their light schedule to 20/4. RQS recommends 20/4 for their autos. I am going to give these girls another flush, as/when they go under the MH (with the autos). Veg them until the autos finish, then flip to 12/12 (if I can wait that long)
Pictures are from just after lights out
recently germinated
2 × Royal Gorilla auto (RQS)
pretty much still seed ðŸ˜
Just had tails today, into rockwool,warm and dark. No pictures yet, camera shy ðŸ˜
going to run these girls under MH, then flip to HPS when I get pistils
75 days from seed
Doing great. She is finally coming into her stride (it's not fair, I keep comparing her growth to the LoJ, but she is 10 days behind)
LoJ (AMS)
85 days from seed
doing great. Some of secondary stems are almost to the edge of the pot
changed their light schedule to 20/4. RQS recommends 20/4 for their autos. I am going to give these girls another flush, as/when they go under the MH (with the autos). Veg them until the autos finish, then flip to 12/12 (if I can wait that long)
Pictures are from just after lights out
recently germinated
2 × Royal Gorilla auto (RQS)
pretty much still seed ðŸ˜
Just had tails today, into rockwool,warm and dark. No pictures yet, camera shy ðŸ˜
going to run these girls under MH, then flip to HPS when I get pistils
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LurkingInTheGrass
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HID erection (hehe) and bulb test
Got the barest of bones of a 4×5×7.5 space set up. Enough to hold a 3.5 foot parabolic reflector ðŸ˜
checked out the borrowed ballasts:
400w 'open style,' ballast (I don't like the design - could even rant, but the price is ok)
1000w Nanolux OG variable ballast (I love this little solid state, digital design)
Test #1:
testing 400w (figured I should start small)
cleaned up the MH bulb and installed it. Cleaned up the ballast as best I could (did I mention I don't like the design)
less than 3 minutes into the test, smoke coming off the ballast, before I could pull the plug - the breaker tripped. Outside the stinky failed ballast goes
test #2:
Cleaned up 1000w MH bulb and installed.
2 hours later, no smoke, lots of light. Raised the room temp by 2 degrees C
guess I am running a 1000w HID (woe is me and my first world problems)
now, to roll a big fattie and consider the room exhaust (just a matter of making the 4" fan, blow out the 8" chimney)
Got the barest of bones of a 4×5×7.5 space set up. Enough to hold a 3.5 foot parabolic reflector ðŸ˜
checked out the borrowed ballasts:
400w 'open style,' ballast (I don't like the design - could even rant, but the price is ok)
1000w Nanolux OG variable ballast (I love this little solid state, digital design)
Test #1:
testing 400w (figured I should start small)
cleaned up the MH bulb and installed it. Cleaned up the ballast as best I could (did I mention I don't like the design)
less than 3 minutes into the test, smoke coming off the ballast, before I could pull the plug - the breaker tripped. Outside the stinky failed ballast goes
test #2:
Cleaned up 1000w MH bulb and installed.
2 hours later, no smoke, lots of light. Raised the room temp by 2 degrees C
guess I am running a 1000w HID (woe is me and my first world problems)
now, to roll a big fattie and consider the room exhaust (just a matter of making the 4" fan, blow out the 8" chimney)
Sallisawjim
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They look great. Mine are a jumble of leaves and mIns. Just a mess. I cant keep up with them as far as defoliation is concerned. Maybe 30%. Idk. Yours are so nicely not overcrowded like mine are. Nice.
LurkingInTheGrass
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Reservoir change - just running a flush for a day or two. Probably should have started the flush 2 days ago (Armor Si, CAliMAGic, SubCulture B). Thinking they have enough to deal with. They had to move. The 4" inline fan was their exhaust.
So, moved them under the MH. Light currently at 3'. Will monitor and play with light distance
Both lights and plants are on the same 20/4 schedule (6 hours to sundown).
and the Royal Gorilla Auto - I have a pretty little sprout
ust so happy ðŸ˜, I could do the Snoopy Happy Dance
So, moved them under the MH. Light currently at 3'. Will monitor and play with light distance
Both lights and plants are on the same 20/4 schedule (6 hours to sundown).
and the Royal Gorilla Auto - I have a pretty little sprout
ust so happy ðŸ˜, I could do the Snoopy Happy Dance
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Sallisawjim
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They look awesome. How long did you veg? How many budsited do you seeso far? Any pointers on defoliation would be grately appriciated... lol
LurkingInTheGrass
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LoJ: 87 days from seed
Lots of tips, I topped her once and was able to coax 7 stems to the edge of the pot by tieing them down as they grew. I kept stroking any middle growth up until they were long enough to tie down.
NL: 77 days from seed
Not as many tips, she was a bit of a slow starter, but doing the same type of training. Tried to fim, instead of top
So, just under 3 months
Really restrained when I defoliated, just took the super large leaves. Never more than one per stem/branch
Lots of tips, I topped her once and was able to coax 7 stems to the edge of the pot by tieing them down as they grew. I kept stroking any middle growth up until they were long enough to tie down.
NL: 77 days from seed
Not as many tips, she was a bit of a slow starter, but doing the same type of training. Tried to fim, instead of top
So, just under 3 months
Really restrained when I defoliated, just took the super large leaves. Never more than one per stem/branch
LurkingInTheGrass
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DWC
I am thinking about up potting (currently in 3.5 gallon) to 5 gallon
I am thinking about up potting (currently in 3.5 gallon) to 5 gallon
LurkingInTheGrass
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Methinks its time for a Grow Room update:
first, the current enchilada
back left: NL
back right: LoJ
front left: Thing 1
front center: cLoJ
front right: Thing 2
1000watt MH
20/4
NL
88 days from seed
Northern Light (Canuk Seeds)
vegging along nicely. I havent been giving her the attention she requires (real life, stupid real life ðŸ˜) I have been pulling down the long branches, cleaning out the occasional leaf, cultivating plenty of verticals
she is in desperate need of some defoliation, LST, a heaping helping of TLC
​up-sized reservoir, from 3.5gallon to 5 gallon
LoJ
98 days from seed
Light of JAH (Amsterdam Marijuana Seeds)
pretty much in the same shape as NL, except she has a lot of stems pulled down, mains all the way out to the edge of the pot
up-sized reservoir, from 3.5gallon to 5 gallon
NL on the left, LoJ on the right
they are both a bit of a mess. Life, and some poor planning. I was just expecting to grow them and pull them out like a star. The LoJ is pretty much trained that way. The NL, kind of but she threw a curve ball when she gave me 2 mains from seed. Just didnt really consider the extra veg in plant growth ðŸ˜
Thing 1
15 days from seed.
Royal Gorilla Automatic (Royal Queen Seeds)
Today is the end of her first full day of MH
I hope to top her and run her arms out in a mainline/flux fashion
She is a participant in The Great Auto Showdown
cLoJ
15 days from cut
clone of LoJ
cLoJ is the first of 4 clones (2 from LoJ, 2 from NL) that will be coming into the space. Could get crowded, 8 pots total ðŸ˜
the goal is to train the clones into a mainline/flux shape
Thing 2
9 days from seed.
Royal Gorilla Automatic (Royal Queen Seeds)
my second participant in The Great Auto Showdown
I moved her into the grow room just after lights out, so no MH yet. I keep worrying that I moved her out of the dome to early, but 3 hours out of the dome, she hasn't fallen over yet ðŸ˜.
she was strong enough to move, just a smidge early and I'm fussing because it's my first Auto grow
An empty tent
soon, it will hold another NL clone.
My goal is to run a quick and dirty airpot, under a 2'×3.5' scrog, under the 450 LED
using Gaia Green products, feeding the dirt via monthly top dress
Quick and dirty airpot:
take a milk crate, line it with that black garden cloth that somebody needed miles of, fill it with a coco/perlite mix and voila the quick and dirty airpot.
when I measured and calculated - 7.5 gallon. I reserve the right to remeasure and recalculate when not as baked
so, the plan is
learn to grow and train the autos: the showdown thread is already making me rethink ðŸ˜, crawling through other folks grows and the googles of course ðŸ˜
veg out the other 6 girls, training them for a nice yield (mainline/flux).
The Autos are expected to finish in early February, by then the space will be walled in with Panda Film, and light tight. Ready to flip
Then, I can think about a veg space ðŸ˜
oh, and I want to read more about shaping the end results, post links if you know of any. Light Addict (same guy who does the flux) 'tutt' style looks good.
I'm not looking to build his deathstar, though it was a cool looking plant
first, the current enchilada
back right: LoJ
front left: Thing 1
front center: cLoJ
front right: Thing 2
1000watt MH
20/4
NL
88 days from seed
Northern Light (Canuk Seeds)
vegging along nicely. I havent been giving her the attention she requires (real life, stupid real life ðŸ˜) I have been pulling down the long branches, cleaning out the occasional leaf, cultivating plenty of verticals
she is in desperate need of some defoliation, LST, a heaping helping of TLC
​up-sized reservoir, from 3.5gallon to 5 gallon
LoJ
98 days from seed
Light of JAH (Amsterdam Marijuana Seeds)
pretty much in the same shape as NL, except she has a lot of stems pulled down, mains all the way out to the edge of the pot
up-sized reservoir, from 3.5gallon to 5 gallon
they are both a bit of a mess. Life, and some poor planning. I was just expecting to grow them and pull them out like a star. The LoJ is pretty much trained that way. The NL, kind of but she threw a curve ball when she gave me 2 mains from seed. Just didnt really consider the extra veg in plant growth ðŸ˜
Thing 1
15 days from seed.
Royal Gorilla Automatic (Royal Queen Seeds)
Today is the end of her first full day of MH
I hope to top her and run her arms out in a mainline/flux fashion
She is a participant in The Great Auto Showdown
cLoJ
15 days from cut
clone of LoJ
cLoJ is the first of 4 clones (2 from LoJ, 2 from NL) that will be coming into the space. Could get crowded, 8 pots total ðŸ˜
the goal is to train the clones into a mainline/flux shape
Thing 2
9 days from seed.
Royal Gorilla Automatic (Royal Queen Seeds)
my second participant in The Great Auto Showdown
I moved her into the grow room just after lights out, so no MH yet. I keep worrying that I moved her out of the dome to early, but 3 hours out of the dome, she hasn't fallen over yet ðŸ˜.
she was strong enough to move, just a smidge early and I'm fussing because it's my first Auto grow
An empty tent
soon, it will hold another NL clone.
My goal is to run a quick and dirty airpot, under a 2'×3.5' scrog, under the 450 LED
using Gaia Green products, feeding the dirt via monthly top dress
Quick and dirty airpot:
take a milk crate, line it with that black garden cloth that somebody needed miles of, fill it with a coco/perlite mix and voila the quick and dirty airpot.
when I measured and calculated - 7.5 gallon. I reserve the right to remeasure and recalculate when not as baked
so, the plan is
learn to grow and train the autos: the showdown thread is already making me rethink ðŸ˜, crawling through other folks grows and the googles of course ðŸ˜
veg out the other 6 girls, training them for a nice yield (mainline/flux).
The Autos are expected to finish in early February, by then the space will be walled in with Panda Film, and light tight. Ready to flip
Then, I can think about a veg space ðŸ˜
oh, and I want to read more about shaping the end results, post links if you know of any. Light Addict (same guy who does the flux) 'tutt' style looks good.
I'm not looking to build his deathstar, though it was a cool looking plant
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LurkingInTheGrass
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Sallisawjim
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Nice. I hear that. Good luck with your grow plans. I have no doubt at all man. I'll follow along. Plan on doing something similar. Lol. Got my quantum boards almost built. Waiting on my meanwell to come In so I can power cycle these babys. Pretty excited. It is gonna be a spider type of setup. I'll post pics when I'm done. I want to try panda film it have all this stainless steel sheeting so idk if I need it other than for partitions maybe. Have a shed I have insulated and started to convert into a covert grow setup. Should be finished soon.
LurkingInTheGrass
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@sallisawjim
those QB boards do good work - I know a guy, swear to god, colas like my forearm, elbow to wrist. wouldn't believe it, if I didn't see it. looking forward to when you reveal
those QB boards do good work - I know a guy, swear to god, colas like my forearm, elbow to wrist. wouldn't believe it, if I didn't see it. looking forward to when you reveal
LurkingInTheGrass
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septem diebus apud hortus
{8o_~
been puttering away at the grow room, as I could, over the last few days.
had to slide the frame away from a wall. wasn't enjoying the lean across to the girls in the back - so, when done, the 'Cube' will be 5x5x7'4". I know, its not a cube, still trying to figure out what to call it...probably just end up being called the "5x5" or "flower hut". I will have access from 2 sides. haven't figured out what magic to use for doors, lots of time to google search that :laugh:
took 2 days to do a res change (maybe RDWC does have an interest for me
), aproximately 50 liters of RO.
I have added a 50L cistern (LOL - a tote with bubbles) to the grow room, treated RO (CALiMAGic and Armor Si)
just daily watering (topping up), the 8 girls takes 10-15L
NL
99 days from seed
Northern Lights (Canuk Seeds)
Mostly Indica
7 week flower
LoJ
109 days from seed
Light of JAH (Amsterdam Marijuana Seeds)
75% Sativa / 25% Indica
10-12 week flower
these 2 are the spinsters in the room, almost 4 months. so happy with how they are turning out. added another ring to their pails, tethered to the first ring, with a 9" tether. LoJ needs another 2-3 inches to start lifting hers. NL needs 3-4 inches
running them at 50% GH nute schedule (1024 ppm, 2048 microsiemens/cm)
Thing 1
25 days from seed
Royal Gorilla Automatic (Royal Queen Seeds)
50% Indica / 30% Sativa / 20% Ruderalis
56-70 days after germination
got her roots in the nutes
running her at 25% GH nute schedule (700 ppm, 1400 microsiemens/cm)
she was topped at 3rd node
branches just starting at node 1
branch nodes at node 2
nothing at node 3, yet
Thing 2
19 days from seed
Royal Gorilla Automatic (Royal Queen Seeds)
50% Indica / 30% Sativa / 20% Ruderalis
56-70 days after germination
no roots yet (took 21 days for root nubs on Thing 1)
cNL
22 days from cut
clone of NL
promix in a solo cup. waiting on her to start filling out the solo cup, before transplanting to final pot. been watering her with "plain" water (RO + CALiMAGic + Armor Si)
she is doing well, somebody thought it would be a good idea to straighten the hump in her back (like she wasn't busy enough), so lightly supercropped her, a little bit. the guilty party may have been under the influence of THC at the time, the guilty party feels some remorse but was heard muttering, "she has nothing but time to recover"
cLoJ1
cLoJ2
22 days from cut
clone of LoJ
both have roots in the nutes, both are on the same nute schedule (50% GH nutes)
cNL1
cNL2
22 days from cut
clone of NL
cNL1 is showing roots across the bottom of her netcup
cNL2 is showing 2 root nubs
I expect roots in the nutes in the next day or so for both these girls. at res change, they are still on "plain" water (RO + CALiMAGic + Armor Si: 378 ppm, 756 microsiemens/cm).
once they get roots down into the reservoir, I will top up with a nute dose
{8o_~
been puttering away at the grow room, as I could, over the last few days.
had to slide the frame away from a wall. wasn't enjoying the lean across to the girls in the back - so, when done, the 'Cube' will be 5x5x7'4". I know, its not a cube, still trying to figure out what to call it...probably just end up being called the "5x5" or "flower hut". I will have access from 2 sides. haven't figured out what magic to use for doors, lots of time to google search that :laugh:
took 2 days to do a res change (maybe RDWC does have an interest for me
), aproximately 50 liters of RO.I have added a 50L cistern (LOL - a tote with bubbles) to the grow room, treated RO (CALiMAGic and Armor Si)
just daily watering (topping up), the 8 girls takes 10-15L
NL
99 days from seed
Northern Lights (Canuk Seeds)
Mostly Indica
7 week flower
LoJ
109 days from seed
Light of JAH (Amsterdam Marijuana Seeds)
75% Sativa / 25% Indica
10-12 week flower
these 2 are the spinsters in the room, almost 4 months. so happy with how they are turning out. added another ring to their pails, tethered to the first ring, with a 9" tether. LoJ needs another 2-3 inches to start lifting hers. NL needs 3-4 inches
running them at 50% GH nute schedule (1024 ppm, 2048 microsiemens/cm)
Thing 1
25 days from seed
Royal Gorilla Automatic (Royal Queen Seeds)
50% Indica / 30% Sativa / 20% Ruderalis
56-70 days after germination
got her roots in the nutes
running her at 25% GH nute schedule (700 ppm, 1400 microsiemens/cm)
she was topped at 3rd node
branches just starting at node 1
branch nodes at node 2
nothing at node 3, yet
Thing 2
19 days from seed
Royal Gorilla Automatic (Royal Queen Seeds)
50% Indica / 30% Sativa / 20% Ruderalis
56-70 days after germination
no roots yet (took 21 days for root nubs on Thing 1)
cNL
22 days from cut
clone of NL
promix in a solo cup. waiting on her to start filling out the solo cup, before transplanting to final pot. been watering her with "plain" water (RO + CALiMAGic + Armor Si)
she is doing well, somebody thought it would be a good idea to straighten the hump in her back (like she wasn't busy enough), so lightly supercropped her, a little bit. the guilty party may have been under the influence of THC at the time, the guilty party feels some remorse but was heard muttering, "she has nothing but time to recover"
cLoJ1
cLoJ2
22 days from cut
clone of LoJ
both have roots in the nutes, both are on the same nute schedule (50% GH nutes)
cNL1
cNL2
22 days from cut
clone of NL
cNL1 is showing roots across the bottom of her netcup
cNL2 is showing 2 root nubs
I expect roots in the nutes in the next day or so for both these girls. at res change, they are still on "plain" water (RO + CALiMAGic + Armor Si: 378 ppm, 756 microsiemens/cm).
once they get roots down into the reservoir, I will top up with a nute dose
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