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1st Lemme Say Hi -Then Lets Diagnose: Mid & Lower Leaves Sick (Blotches, Brown Edges)

On my other thread about the EC/TDS of my grow, some of the guys were enlightening me about nutes and their readings. It seems my run-off has been ridiculously high in ppms these past 2 weeks or so. They suggested it might be possible i've damaged the roots because of the high ppms that they've been exposed to.
There's a good chance it's all related.

Not to mention that one of the guys suggested the reason my flowering is so slow and late is probably because my sativas are not receiving as much light as they need, because they are hungry light-eaters.

I feel like the pieces of the puzzle are coming together, but up until now I still can't see the full picture. I wanna heal my girls. It makes me sad to see them showing signs of being sick. I wanna see those leaves praying and reaching up for the sky! =')
 
Shoot, Armadillo, I know how hard it is to go through something like this; I sure did with root rot on my last grow. I have to look at the other thread; is it nute burn? My current sativa is very sensitive to too many nutes. Remember above all that you are learning: this is the stuff we gotta learn in order to become master growers.
 
It's all love big sis. Thanks for the compassion.
I honestly love how you've been with me since I started sharing my grow here. It definitely makes a difference having such a strong emotional support.

As you say, it's all part of the journey. I've definitely learned a lifetimes worth of lessons from this grow. Will be a much stronger grower with my next babies.
I'm praying I can see my current daughters through to adulthood. We're so close to the finish line now. :bashful::ouch:

To be honest, I don't know if it is nute burn. The classic signs of leaf tip discolouration aren't very present. So I don't think it is nute burn. It's probably a more complex form of too much solids in the growing medium. The fact I was getting ppm run-offs that were as high as 4000 scared one of the growers who commented on my other thread. He was saying run-off should be 1000 ppms MAX. God knows how long i've been giving my girls condensed feeds, cause i've only been using my EC/TDS pen to monitor for maybe 3 weeks now.

Funnily enough, now that I think about it, there is a difference between the GO feed chart i'm following which I found online and the feed chart that came with the GO bottles I bought.
The online chart is in ml/gal. The chart with the bottles is in ml/10L.
And there is a HUGE difference in what is recommended.

As an example:
Online chart BioThrive Bloom recommended @week 5 = 10ml/gal
Bottle chart BioThrive Bloom recommended @week 5 = 10ml/10L

So with the online chart, for my 3 gallon batch i'm adding 30 ml.
Whereas with the bottle chart, for 3 gallons i'm adding 12 ml.

I've been following the online chart since the start of flowering, and never realized the differences between the two charts until after i'd been feeding for a while.
Is it possible the concentration of THE EXACT SAME PRODUCTS is different depending on region? How can that be? It makes no sense... :noooo:
 
I would definitely listen to the bottle and not an online chart, especially if the online chart is recommending more than what's listed on the bottle. The amount on the bottle is normally almost a maximum of what a plant can handle. It's rare to need to add more than what it recommends. It's possible that may be contributing to nutrient problems, especially if you're also noticing that the leaves are dark green (a sign of too much Nitrogen). In general it's recommended to start at half the recommended dose from the manufacturer, and listen to the plants to see if they need more than that. Possibly it's a typo on the online chart, or they're using it for a different growing medium (for example you generally need different levels of nutrients between soil, coco or hydro).
 
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Armadillo, you will see your girls through harvest, dry and cure!! Then they will show all their gratitude for how much you have loved them when you smoke them!! We worship the Stealth Goddess cannabis, and she shows her gratitude!

I am totally here to support my fellow growers through the good and the bad. People here had my back on my second grow through a horrible case of root rot, kept telling me not to give up when I thought I was going to have to chuck the entire grow, and sure enough, the bud is excellent--plants were stunted by the root rot, but the results were great--just smaller than I had wished.

I'm posting a couple of pics of my sativas and the LST I've done cuz I didn't want them growing through the roof! The stretch is amazing: I've just had it going horizontally. This is such a different grow experience for me, but I've had the advantage of watching a friend on another forum grow the same strain. What I've learned: my sativa is a landrace (and I think yours is, too) and it's especially delicate with regard to over-feeding. So I have followed what my friend did, using nutes at like 1/4 strength of what's recommended at this stage. I anticipate a stretch that's going to go on for weeks. I see pre-flower pistils right now, but when I see buds, at that point I'll still have like 14 more weeks to go!!!

Here's my journal if you wanna follow along:

http://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum/growing-community/65131-atu-3rd-grow-ace-purp-haze-x-malawi
 

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Yeah, I think that may be a part of my problem and what started it.
It's mainly the GO BioThrive Bloom where there's a major difference between GO's online chart and the chart on their bottle. I think the BioBud and BioWeed was pretty similar between online and bottle. Next time round i'll go by the bottle every time.

And no, not really. I wouldn't say dark green leaves were part of my problem. It's mainly been browning, blotching and crispiness.
Best thing I done is following alltatup and 9fingerleafs advice, posted on my other thread concerning ppms. After reading their advice I stopped giving nutes for the last two weeks, and only gave water with molasses and calmag+. It seems to have helped calm down the symptoms.

http://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...igure-out-what-my-ec-pen-is-trying-to-tell-me
 
My dear girl, that is absolutely AMAZING to read!! Thank you so much for sharing.
It's really encouraging to hear you say you made it to harvest, even after you thought you'd have to throw out your grow. Well done!
What a great place this forum is. Such a decent and loving community. But then again, what would you expect. Weed makes people super nice! =D

Amen to what you say big sis! I'ma make it to harvest and curing for sure. I love these girls deeply, and I have no doubt they love me too. We spend some great quality time together.
The miracle of life is something amazing to contemplate and take a part in. I'm really grateful for this experience.


I can't wait to see how your current grow evolves. It's gonna be one hell of a ride. These sativas can be quite cheeky, haha.
And +1 for that added tip that my girls might be a landrace. That's the exact kinda info I need, especially the part about being super sensitive to over-feeding. Nutes at 1/4 strength is not something I would have come up with on my own.
I'ma definitely follow your grow journal. Gonna share the love! <3
 
That's the spirit, my man!!! You are absolutely correct, I'm convinced: the cannabis plants love us back. I don't know if they love the folks who say things like "Ima tie the bitch down and cut her" (which I've seen on other forums--a sick, dominance fantasy expressed on a poor plant), but I believe with all my heart that the plants and people who grow them on this forum share lots of super-positive vibes. Sometimes I just sit and look at my girls, and tears of gratitude well up in my eyes; that only happens when I been smokin, though... ;-}
 
What you say also makes me wonder. I've read about people stabbing their girls with a knife before harvest, or sticking nails in the stems, so as to stimulate more trichome production pre-harvest.
I don't know if I could do that to my babies, even if I was guaranteed that it would increase my trichomes. Although it probably works, it just sounds so horrific. =(
 
I wouldn't do that, either. I'm suffering now because some of my girls' leaves are touching the sunblaster lights down below and getting burned. Many studies have been done on plant feelings. Which I don't confuse with human feelings.

I see plants as quite sensitive life forms, unlike cockroaches and mosquitos who are humorless and greedy...
 
haha, I agree about the roaches and damned mosquitos. =')

Make sure to bandage them girls up and shower them with extra attention to get them through the initial shock and kickstart mega healing. They'll grow stronger from the experience, and so will you! Keep them love levels intergalactic girl! <3
 
I noticed in your journal that you have the lights underneath the growing girls. I'm curious if those are your only lights, and why you would choose such a method?
 
It was the best choice for me to make as an absolute beginner. It wasn't cheap, but I used inheritance money, my pops looked down from wherever in the cosmos he was groovin that day and said, u go girl. Grow dat weed.

It's small and stealthy. I had no idea my friends would love what I grew so much, so I really need to be able to grow more than 4 plants at once; not sure what moves I might make in the future to be able to grow more...
 
Maybe you could increase your light output, hence increasing your yield. Seems the best option for remaining stealthy..
You reckon you could maybe have 800 watts HPS in there without things getting out of hand? Or maybe even LEC! <3
 
I won't mess with the lighting in the box because they calculated it correctly for me, but I am going to get a smaller grow box for vegetation.
 
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