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When do you start counting the weeks to flower for indoor grows with photos?

Beeman

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So when do you start to count the weeks from flowering to harvest? Do you start counting when you flip to 12/12 or after you start to see pre flowering?
 
Well I do the same now I'm indoors but outdoors I didn't try that....not sure my plants would trust me with that info.
 
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