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Been fighting bugs. GRRRRRR!!!!!
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insomniaczzz
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Are you growing outside?
Green75
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NebulaHaze
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Do you know how you're getting thrips? From clones? Once they're on your plants, thrips are kind of tricky 
Insecticidal soaps do work somewhat on thrips but you need to apply it daily, and it should be combined with something else for the best results. Spinosad products are kind of the same way, they're only good for a about a day on the plant, and are best used daily or combined with something else if you already have an infestation. Pyrethrin products work too (which is also what's in Doktor Doom) but just like Insecticidal Soaps and Spinosad, Pyrethrins don't last on the plant for more than a day. Even if the thrips seem gone after the Doktor Doom, I would make sure to treat your plants at least 1-2 more times with one or more of the other options just to make sure the thrips are actually gone, instead of just in hiding. Otherwise you may accidentally breed super thrips
Neem oil also can kill thrips and lasts on the plant longer than the other options, but I know some growers avoid it for various reasons, especially later in the flowering stage because the smell can stick on buds.
No matter what you're using, you'll usually get the best results if you apply your treatment with a mister (also called a "One-Hand Pressure Sprayer") to spray all the leaves evenly. Make sure to get every part of the plant including underneath the leaves! Also make sure to spray before they go to sleep so they don't get burned by the lights. Whenever using anything new, it's a good idea to test it on a small part of the plant first and wait a day to see how the plant reacts, just in case you try to give it something too strong. I hope that helps! Since you're catching it early they shouldn't affect your harvest!
Insecticidal soaps do work somewhat on thrips but you need to apply it daily, and it should be combined with something else for the best results. Spinosad products are kind of the same way, they're only good for a about a day on the plant, and are best used daily or combined with something else if you already have an infestation. Pyrethrin products work too (which is also what's in Doktor Doom) but just like Insecticidal Soaps and Spinosad, Pyrethrins don't last on the plant for more than a day. Even if the thrips seem gone after the Doktor Doom, I would make sure to treat your plants at least 1-2 more times with one or more of the other options just to make sure the thrips are actually gone, instead of just in hiding. Otherwise you may accidentally breed super thrips
Neem oil also can kill thrips and lasts on the plant longer than the other options, but I know some growers avoid it for various reasons, especially later in the flowering stage because the smell can stick on buds.No matter what you're using, you'll usually get the best results if you apply your treatment with a mister (also called a "One-Hand Pressure Sprayer") to spray all the leaves evenly. Make sure to get every part of the plant including underneath the leaves! Also make sure to spray before they go to sleep so they don't get burned by the lights. Whenever using anything new, it's a good idea to test it on a small part of the plant first and wait a day to see how the plant reacts, just in case you try to give it something too strong. I hope that helps! Since you're catching it early they shouldn't affect your harvest!
kingfish
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I finally got the Thrips issue under control. After using insectercidal soap, pyrethren Dr. Doom and what have you. I think I found the cure. Captain Jack's Deadbug Brew and Dyatomous earth. the only Thrips I see now are dead. If you haven't herd about Spinosad look it up.
Thanks for the feedback Kingfish, I've had good success with neem oil. I used it during flowering because of the same issues but rubbed it onto the leaves top and underside with my fingers to keep it away from the buds. My buds are drying and they don't have any bad odors.
Royal Nugs
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I've heard spinosad is the ultimate thrip killer. I wished it worked on spider mites as well, but what do you expect from the spawn of Satan?
kingfish
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First of all I see by your username that you are a Viet vet like myself. Thank you for your service brother. We didn't get the same welcome as vets do now. So let me be the one to welcome you here.
I use Neem oil however I'm 5 weeks into flowering and I don't want to use it. Because it leaves a crappy taste this late in flower.
kingfish
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You're right it killed the hell out of Thrips. I hope I never have to use it on the Borg. I:m also using Dyotomous earth. Excuse the spelling.
Thanks Brother, I appreciate you and your thanks. Yeah, it still haunts me, what we did and the hollow lonely return afterwards. Cannabis really helps my PTSD. Well I hope I don't have any nasty tasting smoke. But since I've never had this strain I might not know the difference, lol. Take care Bro, glad to know you!!
Royal Nugs
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Thank you gentlemen for your service. I'm glad to hear cannabis helps you guys. I can't imagine the horrors you've had to experience. It brings a tear to my eye just thinking of it.
May God bless you both.
May God bless you both.
Sonnyhad
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I am also a Vietnam Vet. I wonder how many of us are on here?
Royal Nugs
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Thanks for your service too Sonny. You guys are the real heroes!
LuckyAcres
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I really hope the orange in chief will come through with his promises to you guys, it's way overdue.
On the thrips subjects I found this article here http://ipm.ucanr.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7429.html [h=6]Insecticides Most Compatible with IPM[/h]
Contact insecticides that do not leave persistent residues can be effective for greenhouse thrips and other species that feed openly on plants. These products have low toxicity to people, pets, and pollinators and relatively little adverse impact on biological pest control; because they do not leave toxic residues that would kill natural enemies migrating in after their application. Contact insecticides include azadirachtin (AzaMax, Safer Brand BioNeem), insecticidal soaps (Safer), narrow-range oil (Bonide Horticultural Oil, Monterey Horticultural Oil), neem oil (Green Light Neem, Schultz Garden Safe Brand Neem Oil), and pyrethrins, which many products combine with piperonyl butoxide (Ace Flower & Vegetable Insect Spray, Garden Tech Worry Free Brand Concentrate). To be effective, contact sprays must be applied to thoroughly cover buds, shoot tips, and other susceptible plant parts where thrips are present. On plants with a history of unacceptable damage, begin treatment early when thrips or their damage is first observed. Unless directed otherwise by the product label, periodically repeat the application as long as pest thrips and susceptible plant parts are both present.
Spinosad (Captain Jack’s Deadbug Brew, Green Light Lawn & Garden Spray with Spinosad 2, Monterey Garden Insect Spray) is generally more effective against thrips than the products above. Spinosad lasts 1 week or more and moves short distances into sprayed tissue (has translaminar activity) to reach thrips feeding in protected plant parts. Adding horticultural oil to the spray mix can increase its persistence within plant tissue. This insecticide is a fermentation product of a naturally occurring bacterium, and certain formulations are organically acceptable. Spinosad can be toxic to certain natural enemies (e.g., predatory mites, syrphid fly larvae) and bees when sprayed and for about 1 day afterward; do not apply spinosad to plants that are flowering.
On the thrips subjects I found this article here http://ipm.ucanr.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7429.html [h=6]Insecticides Most Compatible with IPM[/h]
Contact insecticides that do not leave persistent residues can be effective for greenhouse thrips and other species that feed openly on plants. These products have low toxicity to people, pets, and pollinators and relatively little adverse impact on biological pest control; because they do not leave toxic residues that would kill natural enemies migrating in after their application. Contact insecticides include azadirachtin (AzaMax, Safer Brand BioNeem), insecticidal soaps (Safer), narrow-range oil (Bonide Horticultural Oil, Monterey Horticultural Oil), neem oil (Green Light Neem, Schultz Garden Safe Brand Neem Oil), and pyrethrins, which many products combine with piperonyl butoxide (Ace Flower & Vegetable Insect Spray, Garden Tech Worry Free Brand Concentrate). To be effective, contact sprays must be applied to thoroughly cover buds, shoot tips, and other susceptible plant parts where thrips are present. On plants with a history of unacceptable damage, begin treatment early when thrips or their damage is first observed. Unless directed otherwise by the product label, periodically repeat the application as long as pest thrips and susceptible plant parts are both present.
Spinosad (Captain Jack’s Deadbug Brew, Green Light Lawn & Garden Spray with Spinosad 2, Monterey Garden Insect Spray) is generally more effective against thrips than the products above. Spinosad lasts 1 week or more and moves short distances into sprayed tissue (has translaminar activity) to reach thrips feeding in protected plant parts. Adding horticultural oil to the spray mix can increase its persistence within plant tissue. This insecticide is a fermentation product of a naturally occurring bacterium, and certain formulations are organically acceptable. Spinosad can be toxic to certain natural enemies (e.g., predatory mites, syrphid fly larvae) and bees when sprayed and for about 1 day afterward; do not apply spinosad to plants that are flowering.