Wattze: Grow 3

[Sonnyhad]

Hello all! It's been a little bit since I've posted! And I apologize for not being as active.. Life certainly has been a tough one these past few months.. but that doesn't mean I stopped growing!

I aqquired 4 clones from a friend on Facebook, and they took off right from the get go. I also started 2 seedlings at the same time, with a total of 6 plants in my tent. I was running with a 32"x32"x63" tent and had to recently upgrade to a 48"x48"x80" tent because everybody was getting extremely big! (More pictures to come)
My lights and nutrients will stay the same, 400w MH for Veg and 400w HPS for flower. My nutrients are a simple Dyna-Gro Foilage Pro for Veg, and Dyna-Gro Bloom for flower, however I think I'm going to have to add a Cal-Mag to this flower sesh..
My next grow will be much different, as I'm looking into making my own organic mixture, or make a tea for my soils! Either way, I'll be going a little more all natural on the grow after this..

The Clones,
Chem Dawg
White Lavender
Northern Lights
Grape Stomper
all 53 days from when I got them ( 7 weeks, 4 days)

The Seeds,
Aurora Indica
Back in Black
both are 38 days from seed ( 5 weeks, 3 days)

I'm going to try and post all the pictures from when I got them to now, I take lots of videos, so I'll see what I have in pictures!

Again im so sorry it's been so long! I participate on a lot of groups to help spread the good word of Cannabis! 😉 Good to be back, my friends!

LOL that's funny, sounds like what I did. I started in a 2x4x6' tent, that got full so I got a 4x4x80" tent and then that was full so I got a 4x8x 6'-8"tent and guess what! They are all full now. Soon a few will be done so I will be good to go! But you might say the tents have grown with the weeds!

[Sonnyhad]

Your plants are coming along awesomely!!

[Wattze]

Thank you very much! Glad to be posting again!

[Wattze]

I would've labeled my pictures but the site was not letting me on my phone.
These pictures were takin last night after I watered my Aurora Indica. The other 4 are starting to bud very nicely! Especially my grape stomper, she's going to give me some very nice buds!

[Wattze]

The correct answer to that question is TOO TALL. 😂 On a serious note, they have to be at least 3 1/2 foot tall now.. maybe 4 is some spots!

[Tika]

up until my current grow-I have always been short-seen some tall grows that I covet..like-why did I wire it all down...
Anyway I think its really exciting.

[Sonnyhad]

Man, I don't know if you have enough head room for those!! I have a couple that are stretching now and I'm screwed! lol

[Wattze]

The ladies on day 14 of flower!
I feel the buds could be a little bigger, but they're on the right track!
Had to double the amount of nutrients I was giving, because she's acting like she can still take more! Thirsty ladies..

[OzBud]

Beautiful. Tent is full of green!

[NebulaHaze]

Gorgeous plants! My only suggestion is they are starting to look very bushy and you want to be careful of mold or white powdery mildew. Is it possible to remove all the biggest fan leaves, especially at the middle and bottom where the plant isn't getting any light? It will help increase airflow through the plant, and also help the plant focus on developing the buds I wrote a little bit about defoliation today, I'm not sure if you're interested

[Wattze]

I'm very interested! I've been thinking that this whole time, I'm just so afraid of stressing it to much and having them hermie on me.. today is day 17 of flower, do you think I could get away with stripping some of those leaves? I felt I took way to much last Grow, so I'm just a little worried lol definitely a skill I have yet to master!

[Wattze]

I wish I could upload videos, these are just a couple shots I took last night at lights out 😊
Did some heavy defoliation, hadn't touched them hardly all grow, so hoping that helps a bit!

[NebulaHaze]

They look great, super healthy! However, it's is really bushy in there. If it were me I'd remove everything below this line, at least:


I'd also remove ALL the biggest fan leaves, especially any leaf that is bigger than your hand and/or covering a bud site and can't be tucked and leaves in the middle of the plant that don't get any light (they're just sucking energy from the plant away from the buds).

If you're worried about taking too much, you can always take a little now and see how you feel tomorrow after you see how the plant responds. You can always take more later, but you can't put them back, so better too little than too much if you're not sure

I think you're going to have an overall better environment in there when you get rid of some of those leaves, because there will be more air circulation and the humidity will go down

[Wattze]

You're so awesome, thank you!! I have plenty of big fan leaves, I also trimmed a lot of the bottoms tonight, so I'll wait to see how she reacts, then take those bigger leaves!
They don't need those for anything? For building the buds or anything? Or does the plant just do that naturally all on its own? My tent is extremely thick, so I just wanna be sure I'm taking the right amount 😅
Thank you so much for your help Nebula!

[NebulaHaze]

That's actually the great debate about defoliation. Some people say it can't work to increase yields because the plant needs those leaves to make energy. And it's true that a plant won't grow as fast if it has few leaves. However, there's something about the flowering stage where defoliation early on causes the plant to focus on colas, and those colas get really thick and fat compared to if the buds were covered by leaves. It's not just cannabis that does this. Other commercial crops like cotton need to be defoliated early on in their flowering stage order to produce the best yields and quality.

It makes sense in a way because in the wild there's no reason for a cannabis plant to grow buds that don't get wind, and cannabis is a wind-pollinated plant. But even if we don't exactly understand why they developed this tendency, for some reason cannabis plants only seem to fatten the buds that get direct light and a breeze, and defoliation is one way to accomplish that. But once the plant has developed the bud sites and it's just fattening them, I feel like defoliation doesn't help much if at all as long as the buds remain exposed to light and air.

Some growers disagree with me, and you'll find that if you ask 10 different growers about defoliation you'll get 10 different ways to defoliate! There is no one right answer, and you'll see lots of different ways to approach defoliation get great results. But for me, defoliation is more about "telling" the plant what it should focus on right at the beginning of the flowering stage when buds are forming during the first 3-4 weeks, than after that I mostly let it do it's thing. That's what I've found that growers do with other types of crops like cotton and cowpeas, and at least some commercial cannabis growers, and that's what's worked well for me!

I wrote a little bit about my thoughts on defoliation here if you're interested! http://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum/...6103#post76103

[Wattze]

Very very wonderful! And I can agree with both sides, maybe it just depends on genetics, growing environment, equipment (fans), etc., it's like you said, it's the great debate!
It is only my third real Grow, so there's lots of time to experiment and see what works best, and when. (: I do gotta say, your site is what taught me and brought me to where I am, so you haven't done me wrong! I appreciate the help so much, and thank you for your time! I hope you'll stick around to see this one finish!

Side note, I did remove more of those bigger leaves (there's quite a few, actually) so hopefully that does help in the production of the buds! I do like a little defoliation lol

[Tika]

I agree and its hard to do-I am filling a can everytime I feed. I worry about shocking them in flower-but they gotta go
Nice post...thanks

[Wattze]

Found myself doing the same, was going to take a few, but ended up filling up a plastic bag lol but I gotta remind myself, I'm plucking from 5 plants 😅 Either way, gotta go! Lol so glad to have you, Tika 😊

[Wattze]

Just a sneak peak for tomorrow's update, today is day 20, tomorrow marks 3 weeks flower!

[NebulaHaze]

Great bud development so far!

[Wattze]

Thank you, NebulaHaze! That means a lot! 😊😊

[Tika]

" yours are bigger" I think! Really looking super Wattze! I am feeding today and. STILL filling a can and cutting the non producing stems. I really hope to back off shortly. If anything it will be an interesting experiment although I loathe low yields....
Already planning to germinate the next grow...no more down time for weddings! Totally delighted for you

[Wattze]

Today Is day 23 of flower!
These pictures were actually taken Monday and Tuesday, But it can get crazy here at night lol so here they are currently! Loving the light today!

[NebulaHaze]

Absolutely lovely!

[Wattze]

Thank you so much, NebulaHaze!
I'm so glad you're sticking around for this one! 😊

[Wattze]

My white Lavender and Aurora Indica this beautiful morning.
Day 25 flower

[NebulaHaze]

Yes they are!

[Tika]

Beautiful!

[Wattze]

Thank you very much, ladies! 😊😍

[Wattze]

I ran out of rope ratchet room, but I ended up just bypassing the rope ratchets altogether, and hung the light straight up! But it's perfect now, because my Aurora will stop blistering, and the light is waaay more evenly spread to everyone!

Nothing new here beside that, the ladies are looking great!

[9fingerleafs]

Ay caramba!! That's a frosty plant my friend looking great

[Tika]

Indeed they are