HELP! Twisted mottled leaves

[TRX]

I'm having issues with twisting and brown mottled leaves. I'm in my last week of veg and these plants have never really looked healthy.

DWC hydro grow. Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur. 4x4 LED Ion board.

[Wayzee]

What's your temp and RH?

[TRX]

Max 75° and 55% RH

[DabberDog]

How about CalMag? How do the roots look?
That juice looks interesting. It says you don't need to pH. That all sorts of excites me! Seems it could work for coco.

[TRX]

I am using CalMag, roots look normal no musty smell.

[golfnrl]

My guess is you are not checking the PH of your feed solution, but that looks like PH issues to me. How hot is it in your grow space? Any wind blowing directly on the plant?

[TRX]

Max 75° and 55% RH. I've got two AC Infinity oscillating, one above and one below canopy. Advanced Nutrients claims "perfect PH" so I've never checked on PH.

[Geeza]

I would start with a double-check of all the basics,

The levels I state below are "just a guideline" that I use for myself, in DWC only, and I wouldn't expect any adverse symptoms, such as the photos you've shown, if I keep within these ranges.

Environment: light height/intensity, temperature, 24 degrees C - 28 degrees C, humidity, 50%-60%, air intake/exhaust sufficiency, no fans blowing too hard or directly on the plant

Nutrients: pH (5.5-6.2), EC (1.2-1.6 in veg), airstone/pump functioning correctly, airspace between net pot and nutrient level, etc.

root health; colour, slime/pythium, insect larvae within the root ball, etc

One more thing I recently learned the hard way is the compatibility of nutrients. Try not to mix different brands, and try not to use too many additives, as it can make things a bit more complicated,
Stick with the basics.

I'm interested as to what might be causing this myself, so please let us know what you discover.
Cheers.

[Wayzee]

Pretty sure that "pH perfect" only applies if the water you're starting with is the correct pH.... If the water is out the end mix will be out...

[Allenpro]

And is it PH perfect for soil or hydro?
Never trusted PH Perfect in hydro, PH drifts and there is too much riding on it and its too easy to check

[Wayzee]

That's right,.

[AMP]

Im with geeza, go back and check the basics … i Think your ph is off. I use advance nutrients and even though most of the time i get very close to the correct ph it can be off sometimes. With advanced nutes you check ph after you add them ,Wayzee, regardless of water type it will balance the ph but you still have to double check. It seems the one thing the OP hasn't done.

[Wayzee]

Mmm Ive used advanced pH perfect before aswell, and Im not convinced .. I wonder how can a measured dose of chemical adjust pH to a specific number for everyone when the starting number can vary so much if you know what I mean, like if your water pH is 7 and mine is 5 and we both put in 2ml of nutes per litre of water how do we both end up at 5.8 ? .. I think if this was possible every nutrient manufacturer would have similar product. And yes you should always check pH last with any brand.

[Drphil69]

Wayzee Buffer solutions do just that. While adding salts. Now if the starting water is already buffered things get complicated.

[Wayzee]

Well there you go, Learn something everyday 😊 . Not sure why I had to adjust it down all the time though maybe something to do with the water.

[AMP]

Idk but when i used distilled or spring it would still come out the same buy i would still have to adjust to my needs. It must be magic wayzee

[Wayzee]

😜it must be. I ended up switching to ISN nutrients when I was dwc even though it two part it's still cheaper and you don't need to use as much so it lasts bit longer.

[AMP]

What is isn and dwc? I’m looking to switch nutes after these run out. My friend is making compost soo I’m hoping i won’t need ant but i need to learn how to make sure the compost is good for my plants. I don’t know much even though I’ve tried to look it up numerous times

[Wayzee]

ISN is a brand of nutrients mainly for growing in dwc systems. ive used my own home made compost for outdoor with everything in it from animal carcasses and guts, banana peels, tea bags, ash from hardwood, rabbit and chook shit and the old bedding out of their enclosures, and mixed it in with just garden soil from local hardware store and the plant absolutely boomed. For indoor I personally think I'll stick with purpose made soil from hydro shops to try avoid any nasties being introduced through the dirt/compost.