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    Up until this round all of my cross breeding has been done with regular M/F seeds, I have Online friends that cross fem seeds with fem seeds and call the result a crossbreed but other purest that say the result will be a fem seed version of the of the recipient. I have a fem Crescendo that pollenated a Pineapple Express plant so all I can expect is fem seeds from the PAE with none of the Crescendo genetics. I think genetics at the level I cross at is a crap shoot at best but is there any scientific info out there? If you have crossed Fem/Fem do you think you created a new strain?

    #2
    New strain would be a stretch, new hybrid maybe

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    • Allenpro
      Allenpro commented
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      I agree, new Hybrid is a more accurate name. Do you think the polenated fem seeds will take on some of genetic traits of the feminazed father or will the only differences only be seen in the phenotypes?

    #3
    My Late and Lazy grow seeds are both from fem photo crosses. Sluricaine x sluricaine and sluricaine x chocolope. The sluricaine was the forced male. While the grow is still growing, I can see many variations in the resulting seeds. The slurilope cross has physical characteristics of the mother chocolope as far as plant type, size and growth rate at least what they have grown so far. While the sluricaine S2 is more like the original version. in fact everything that I have ever crossed was a fem photo. I am interested to see what the bud results are in the cross and if it will have traits of both parents. Only harvest time results will tell the real results. The biggest hurtle that I have is growing only in the warm season so I am limited to growing a new cross only once a year. I don't think I have a plan for them other that trying to bring out desirable traits. I do feel like I'm shooting from the hip.
    Last edited by Ckbrew; 07-04-2025, 07:21 PM.
    Don't worry, be happy, grow sticky buds.

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    • Allenpro
      Allenpro commented
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      Breeding is a long term investment of time isnt it, and I dont think there are any shortcuts or fast tracks. If you make a cross your looking at 2-4 year investment to see if its worth investing in

    #4
    I make pollen on fem plants which is then used to pollinate flowers on the same (or other plants). I can get from 10 to 20 to several hundred seeds. Goal is seeds for growing out in future grows, not creating the next super strain. Home grown seeds seem to become plants with similar phenotype variances as the seeds direct from the popular online seed stores.

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    • Allenpro
      Allenpro commented
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      I am looking for a cross that carries the effects and attributes from one strain and combines it with the other strain. For example I dont want sleepy or hungry but I also dont want to bounce off the walls

    #5
    I just read on here as part of Nebulas research she learned that Ethos and Happy Valley Genetics primarily breed with only female plants, stating that the Y chromosome from male plants does not necessarily contribute a lot to female bud development.
    Interesting, that must save a ton of time overall

    Sometimes it's hard to get information about new breeders, so I put together this page to share my research and experience with Happy Valley Genetics so far.

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      #6
      I don't think anyone answered your original question. If you reverse a female for pollen and use that pollen on another plant everything is exactly the same as if you pollinated with a male plant. Both plants contribute, on average, half of the genetics. The only difference is that because the female plant did not have a y chromosome to contribute, all of the seeds will be female.

      Keep in mind that breeding is not like blending. You can't cross a fruity strain with a garlic strain and make a strain that is a little fruity and a little garlic. That might happen, but probably won't. Any one type of expression such as smell or color or density are combinations of genes, some dominant, some recessive. Mix that shit up and who knows what it will deliver, especially because 1) we don't really know whether the expression is a dominant or a recessive expression, and, 2) most of the hybrids these days are filled with heterozygous genes, which makes combination very unpredictable.

      There can be fun surprises and sometimes it will work out.

      Anyway, to answer your original question, yes your new seeds are going to be different than both parents, will be a combination just like any child. Some of the characteristics will be obviously from one or the other plant, other characteristics will be new and unpredictable.

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      • Allenpro
        Allenpro commented
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        Thanks and I agree. Its kind of a crap shoot

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