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    Greetings fellow growers.

    I've been out of the game for 10 years due to employment conditions. Gotta love the federal gov't. I'm a seasoned
    recreational grower. I have 9 grows under my belt. Best result was a Sour Diesel grow that yielded 18 oz. of cured buds. My method is indoor bubble-ponics in a 4 x 4 x 84 tent. All of my previous grows were done in a bedroom which provided a controlled environment. I now live in an area that has severe temperature swings. In addition, my first grow back is being done in a non-insulated shed where the temp swing can be as much as 40 degrees and ambient humidity is usually below 15%. Because of my current situation, controlling the environment in my tent is a challenge. I'm running a Toshiba A/C unit that I ducted to the tent. The issue with that is the unit's temp sensor is on the unit itself. Not remote. So that requires pretty constant attention. I'm also running 3 humidifiers in an effort to maintain desirable humidity.

    For my first grow back I chose Northern Lights from Royal Crown seeds out of Springfield, Or. I've had success with this strain in the past. Sprouting proved difficult because of environmental conditions. This seed didn't sprout "strongly" and after transplanting, it still took a few days to emerge. I WAS using H.I.D. lighting which made temp. control extremely difficult. As a result, I have switched to LED lighting. My girl is now under a 400w Vivosun Wing-light. I chose this light for its integral dual fans, wings and adjustable spectrum. I'm counting on this newer LED technology. We'll see.

    I'm a firm believer in trimming. I topped at the 5th node. Then, after establishing a strong core, I pulled down and secured all of the branches to allow light to penetrate more deeply. After 2 more weeks I began trimming of all large leaves that were not allowing the desired light penetration. And as growth progresses, I will continue to trim off the largest leaves and continue to pull the branches dow to keep the center as open as possible. I have had impressive success in the past using this method.

    The pics show room prep, my set-up and growth progress. It is my intent to document this grow's progress here. I choose to use this set-up and technique because it allows me to control virtually all aspects of my grows. I do only 1 plant at a time so I can concentrate all of my efforts on this single plant.


    #2
    I like your training method/technique i get great results using pretty much the same technique.
    Also a nice and tidy set-up.
    Last edited by Wayzee; 06-19-2025, 06:03 PM.

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      #3
      i've heard conflicting reveiws on those wing lights, how do you like it?

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        #4
        Welcome back to growing. Looks sweet! I'm sure that light will do you good. Growing out in the desert must be hard, especially in a shed. It'll be cool to watch your comparison from the 600w HPS to your new 400w LED.

        I'm glad you left the feds and came back to the green ways.

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          #5
          I have high hopes with this new light. I will definitely share my girl’s progress.

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            #6
            Looking forward to your updates. It will be a big challenge maintaining the environment for sure.

            Regarding the AC sensor problem, you may be able to control the AC via its power supply. Some can be controlled that way, others cannot. Just test it by unplugging it whilst it is running then plugging it back in. If it runs after plugging back in it can probably be controlled via an automated power outlet controlled via a wifi temp/humidity sensor in the tent. They are cheap.

            If not, you can rip the thermostat out of the unit and stick it in the tent.
            Flower Room: 11' x 7' x 7.5'H, 480w AC, 13gal/day dehumidifier, 1.5gal ultrasonic humidifier, 60gal (27gal usable) nute tank, 16" pedestal fan & 18" wall fan. Lighting and climate automated. Hand watering.
            Veg Cupboards: ​​​​​​Two 4x2x6H cupboards. SF2000 Evo in one SF7000 in other. Climate controlled and automated. Hand watering
            Aeroponics Low Pressure Bucket: 20W LED. 5 clones & 20W LED 11 clones
            Lights: Mars Hydro FC-E1200W, SF-7000, SF-2000 evo in flower room.
            Medium: Coco/perlite, 7.2gal pots, no drains
            Current Grow: ​​​5 x Photos Franklin's Orange Zkittles x Sour Diesel in flower room, 3 Franklin's White Widow x Sour Diesel Clones, 13 x Orange ZkittleZ x Sour Diesel clones in Aeroponics buckets x 2.
            Last Grow: A mix

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              #7
              Actually I have ordered the new Vivosun climate control unit that integrates with my other Vivosun equipment. The down side is that it isn’t expected to ship until late July. Until then, I’m kinda in a rhythm. Run the A/C on manual mode full cool during the day and fan only at night. Then I regulate temperature by controlling airflow.

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                #8
                Week 8 update.

                Yesterday I flipped my plant from veg. to flower. Went from 18/6 to 12/12 light schedule, switched light spectrum to flower at 80 percent power and seriously steeped up my nutrient levels. I'm using General Hydroponics Flora Trio supplemented with Armor is and CalMag. I'm still struggling with temp control. I sure wish Vivosun would ship their new climate control system. Their projected ship date is "late July."

                The attached pics show my girl's progress. I've thinned out the sugar leaves 3 times and this girl just keeps going.

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                • Bluey
                  Bluey commented
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                  Small incremental changes in light nutes and environment are the way to go, except for the flip from 18 to 12hrs of light. Typically waiting for flowers to appear before transitioning to flower nutes is the go except in cases of excess nitrogen build up in the leaves.

                #9
                Depending on your budget and how much you want to invest in this hobby creates different solutions to your environmental problems. With only one plant in a 4x4 you have space to work with to help with humidity and temp.
                Another option is to select strains that are better suited to your grow conditions. I don’t know if NL is better in hot/dry conditions, but they grow like a monster in 5 gal buckets in my tent with an average of 26-29C and 50-69% rH. And it’s an easy plant to grow and will tolerate some gardener mistakes.

                As for the lights, LED is the only way to go. Check out my DIY LED lights. I designed them to be flexible enough to provide solutions to unexpected grow problems. And i run them as side lighting instead of top-down lighting.
                There are 3 things you must check everyday when growing in hydro:
                1) Water level (How much h2o is she drinking in 24hrs)
                2) pH level (change over 24hrs)
                3) ppm/EC level (How much food is she eating in 24hrs)

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                • ductwizard
                  ductwizard commented
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                  its pretty smart with the side lighting. if you think about it your outdoor plants only get straight dwn lighting a cpl. hours a day. the rest is more or less side lighting

                • YYCannabis
                  YYCannabis commented
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                  I’ve been pretty happy with the results from side lighting. Only issue i continually face is having to rotate my plants every day or two so that the plant gets equal exposure all the way around. But since I check my DWC every day, it’s just part of the routine.

                • ductwizard
                  ductwizard commented
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                  i have my outdoor plants against a wall and i rotate them every other day when they get watered. you can see them chasing the light

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