I need your ultimate seed germination remedy please!

[vincenoir]

Hello. I ve a constant fail on seed starting. They just not germinating or cannot sprouting. This issue for me is unsolvable. Maybe since 4-5 years, when winter comes I'm looking for an answer. In summertime its ok. It is incredibly difficult to obtain seeds for me. Basically I can do it illegally and pretty expensively. I can't help but care. I wonder what is the ultimate solution for good germination rates and rooting. I wonder If there is a high-tech lab level kit or something Im ready to pay.

Below I briefly summarize the points that I took into consideration and the methods that I tried. Most of those are combined with each other in different environmental conditions. I must admit that I did not observe any consistent results. It feels like the trials that were successful happened by luck.


So I every time buy different strains from different banks within years. Expensive or cheap ones did not change anything. For me it’s just phenomenon when it comes to germinate rates and good rooting.

I always keep my seeds in the refrigerant and dark place or I kept them in deep freeze. I kept it outside too. It doesn’t matter. I can wait at most a year for a seed.

I used every typical method that I heard. I combined those with each other. Soaking, scratching, paper towel, directly to mediums like soil mixes, cocos, peats, wools.

I keep them in dark place during the germination. I tried different temperatures between 18-28 C (65-82 F). I keep my environment extremely sterilized. I use even gloves on every step. I used hydrogen peroxide. I adjusted the PH. I added liquid root developers for those who have sprouted or did not anything at all. Ive humidifier, humidity dome, heat mat, thermometer, hygrometer, EC meter. I used spring water, deionized or reverse osmosis.

Maybe there are other stuff that I can’t remember for now. What Im trying to say is somehow If its winter in outside I can’t help it. They cannot germinate well or cannot survive at mediums. Sometimes I’m losing 20 seeds in a row. I feel like crying.

Sorry the post became a bit complaining and grumbling. I'll end by sharing my current experience to clarify.

I scratched and soaked at deionized water 4 of them. Two of them a little bit germinated in 24 hours. Then I immediately put them to coco tablets which is washed on ph adjusted -hydrogen peroxide added warm water. Im spraying them with same mix. They are under 24 hours light. Lights are pretty soft and in a distance more than a meter. I use humidifier and timer for to not overdo it. In tent heat is around 26 C and moisture level %60. It looks like they won't be able to make it again.


Im hopeless, please help!

[Bluey]

Paper towel method

If that doesn't work H²O² method combined with above

Some use root starters...they have a specific name I forget which.

[Gingerbeard]

'Soft lights' more than a meter away? Unless that light is a professional type, high-bay light, your plants are not getting enough light.
Simplify. A seed needs two things to become a seedling: water and a place to push a root. It doesn't even need light until it has poked its shell above surface. It does not need root developer or nutrients of any kind. 8.0 pH water will start a seed just fine. It doesn't need a special plug to start in. It doesn't need special water.
Try growing a different type of flower if you are having a hard time with weed. Until you can get your handle on getting some type of flower to grow, you're just going to keep wasting pot seeds.

[vincenoir]

Thank you for your reply. My lights are good enough I believe. I used them since 5-6 years and got great results. Soft means it has a dimmer so Im adjusting to lowest level. I can measure by the way I had lightmeter too. I'm just trying to give them enough to get them out. And I did because I heard many people doing this.
Actually Im also trying to focus spesific seeds. Today Im crazy surprised with a news. I did my own seeds a couple of years ago by usual pollen transfer. I did not used most of those because the original strains was kinda herma type. Last week I put them to a pot and left on outside. Today I realized many of them came out. I go crazy bro, nights are around 10 degree in here and somehow they succeed it. I started to think this is all about seeds and I'm trying in vain. All those other factors seems like a bit butterfly effect. I'm starting to think they fooled me, I mean those marketplaces. At least the ones that I can shop. I cant buy from any real breeder, just from retailers.

[bdeegan]

They need some warmth too, not hot, warm. I struggled to get 100% germ rate until I started using a heating mat with temp controller set to 80f. It was a game changer and I’ve lost count on how many seeds I’ve started with it but I’m 100% even with years old seeds stored at room temp.

[Gingerbeard]

I don't get it.
Original post was you've been having problems for 4-5 years. Post 3.1 says you've been using your lights for 5-6 years with no problems. If you haven't gotten any seeds going for 4-5 years, what have you been growing for 5-6 years?
And I'm super curious about what your light is. Care to share?

[9fingerleafs]

Try the float tech, just a fancy name for filling a glass half way with water and leave the seeds float, don't swirl cause theyl sink to the bottom. Floating ensures the seed gets water but also air and oxygen. Once they open you can move to paper towels or rooters or directly to medium. Works for me way better than other methods. Don't use any other chemicals. Just water and air. That's how a seed in the ground will sprout when it rains

[vincenoir]

Thanks for the tip. I will definitely try this most simplistic method. I believe it may works really because they reacted well first in water. Some people claimed that they drowned in the water so that why I moved to a medium. But what a surprise as long as they float they actually gettin air.