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    'Marigolds' and hollow stems

    Some y'all's Freak Show pictures look a lot like the 'marigolds' I'm growing so I thought I'd ask y'all.
    I'm a pincher for supercropping. Not to bend, just thicken stems. When I was pinching 'M', I noticed the bud stems are hollow. Any y'all notice that?
    I've been dab-googling about hollow stems and determined there is definitely no answer for hollow stems being good or bad. It's a strain thing. My other 5 plants have real thick and sturdy stems. 'M's stems are thin and hollow. Same nutes and watering.
    I've pinched everything bud related. I might understand that the pith of the stem carries moisture while the walls carry nutrients. Underwatered plants can lose the pith. We'll see what happens.
    Before that last dab really takes hold. healed stems should start carrying more nutes? More water will bring back the pith? How wet did you keep your FS?
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    #2
    I think almost all of mine have been hollow so I don’t think it is a negative. Even the 13 footer this summer was hollow.

    dab-googling, lol. That one is going to catch on!

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    • Gingerbeard
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      Does that mean I'll be a trend setter?

    • TOKABIGONE
      TOKABIGONE commented
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      Gingerbeard You have been a trend setter since you came here...just because no one follows doesn't mean it's not a trend??

    #3
    TOKABIGONE Mandudebro! That warms my heart. I feel like someone's paying attention.
    King of the Amazons
    2x3x4.5
    3x3x6
    HLG 360 Elite
    Vipar Spectra 350
    Sunlight
    In coco 10/01
    Flowering 11/28
    5 gal fabric
    (2) GDP 5 gal
    (2) G13 3 and 5 gal
    (1) Zkittlez 5 gal
    (1) Sexless M 3 gal
    Mother Earth Coco and Perlite
    Dyna Gro Foliage
    Dyna Gro Bloom
    CalMag

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      #4
      I want to start a new thread about this next bit. What d' y'all think.

      M got a gallon of water at the same time as the G-13 and they have been no more than 6" away from each other in the meantime. M feels like she has a couple days before another watering. G-13 will need water tomorrow.
      M has the hollow stems: no pith. G-13 has solid stems.
      Could it be that hollow stems need less water than solid stems because they use less than solid stems? If so, would hollow stem plants need more or less nutrients because they aren't getting absorbed as fast?
      Could the hollow stems be a trait of a strain as to it's 'natural' environment? Like Sativa vs Indica growing conditions?
      Are Sativas more likely to have hollow stems than Indicas?

      I know root ball and plant size make a difference. This is only about stems.
      King of the Amazons
      2x3x4.5
      3x3x6
      HLG 360 Elite
      Vipar Spectra 350
      Sunlight
      In coco 10/01
      Flowering 11/28
      5 gal fabric
      (2) GDP 5 gal
      (2) G13 3 and 5 gal
      (1) Zkittlez 5 gal
      (1) Sexless M 3 gal
      Mother Earth Coco and Perlite
      Dyna Gro Foliage
      Dyna Gro Bloom
      CalMag

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        #5
        Interesting theory on the stems vs water intake. I have two side by side that have very different water needs. I’ll report my findings when I chop. I had one I just took down that had hollow stems and it typically took a little longer to dry out.

        On the hollow stems, I thought I read somewhere it could be a sign of magnesium deficiency (typically paired with red stems and yellow leaves).
        Thoughts?

        bd

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          #6
          Ever hear of a carbon deficiency? That's one of those 'things I read somewhere' bdeegan . Same-same with red/purple stems: light, nutes, genetics.
          DeadlyFruit Your hollow stem plants. Sativa or Indica?
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          (2) GDP 5 gal
          (2) G13 3 and 5 gal
          (1) Zkittlez 5 gal
          (1) Sexless M 3 gal
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          • DeadlyFruit
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            I don’t think I have ever grown any true landrace and most of what is out there leans toward hybrid indica I think that is likely what mine were although I’d have to look through my grow documentation to be sure. After this summers big harvest I was thinking of growing something smaller yielding but fun like dr grinspoon from Barney’s farm or something similar - a landrace saliva.

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            #8
            I'm convinced M uses less water than Sister G-13. Whether hollow stems or a strain thing. Two waterings since first post. M has been heavier than Sister.
            King of the Amazons
            2x3x4.5
            3x3x6
            HLG 360 Elite
            Vipar Spectra 350
            Sunlight
            In coco 10/01
            Flowering 11/28
            5 gal fabric
            (2) GDP 5 gal
            (2) G13 3 and 5 gal
            (1) Zkittlez 5 gal
            (1) Sexless M 3 gal
            Mother Earth Coco and Perlite
            Dyna Gro Foliage
            Dyna Gro Bloom
            CalMag

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