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  • Puglover1
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ID:	512467Northern Lights May 1st. It had 3 cotyledons, its first two leaves, on top is the 4th new set. Nodes are close together.

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  • panalilies
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    LOL I have about 10 Auto seeds that I wont use all of for some time. I for sure say you should cull the tinnier one> the one in the pic that has a longer round leaf than the other, bigger one

  • Puglover1
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    I guess the end is near for a twin. The fastest way I could get any auto seeds would be to do a trade with panalilies LOL. Seeds for Mag weed, heh. Monday pics below, I have two appts tmrw, the murder would have to occur after the pugs' supper. Anybody wanna vote on who to kill, er, cull?

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  • Mr.furley
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    So you get what I'm talking about with dividing it and sound like you have the experience to do so, Its just a personal choice after that if you want to. Its a crap shout on the one to cull, my suggestion is the weaker genetic. A small cup to the plant for water should do the trick, always be gentle when watering at that age.
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  • Puglover1
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    Mr.furley It is def a true twin, my last auto seed that wasn't a dud, I still need to email Seedsman. I dropped the one paper-toweled seed into the hole I made in a new pot with new soil medium. I was supposed to be growing 3 gelato OG autos. Because I have no more auto seeds my options are to sacrifice one of ten WT photo seeds then grow it outside when it's time if an attempt at separating twins fails. Or remove one of the twins. I'd love to try to save it but I have no backup auto seeds. I'm not always shaky, I'm much better in the afternoon when my calcium kicks in, I commiserate with the plants. I know about Ca & Mg bc they're life sustaining for me after a surgeon ruined my parathyroid glands. Would I assume the shorter one should die? I put an upside-down small pyrex bowl over them and the next morning there were the twins. If I execute one do I just cut the stem at the soil level? It's a shame about the duds, this would be fun to try to save and see how they both grow. I was actually wanting to grow an indoor and outdoor NL auto to compare but that's out the window.

    Oh, I need to water, it's been a week. I can carry the pots to the kitchen, I want to tweak a few things in the closet. Should I use the long spout watering can or something more gentle? The other two plants are looking good, new growth every day. Thank you!

    (I grow basil and dill, mint, strawberries, tomatoes etc when we don't have excessive rain preventing the farmers from planting. I had a bumper basil crop last year, gave a bunch away in solo cups that could each make several plants - feast or famine) Oh, I used to buy a coleus and make dozens of plants in cups to sell at garage sales years ago.
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  • Mr.furley
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    With all the cannabis seeds iv grown from iv never had a true twin, the rare times they have shown up here the consensus is to cull one of them. I have had twins, triplets and beyond with other plant most commonly from extra seeds in the hole sometimes on purpose, sometimes not and yes I do divide some plants, it is more common then one may think in the world of Botany and actually in some cases used to speed propagation of plants like coleus and dill to name a couple for example. Strawberries are divided not cloned and rarely grow from seed but there is a big difference between rhizomes and roots and after working with them you start to know the possibilities and limitations, where to push it and when to let it be. Cannabis has roots and autoflower roots don't like to be disturbed, I don't even ike transplant autos, shotglass of water for 24hrs to final pot is my preferred choice.

    I personally would try to separate them at my house, Curiosity is my Jam and I have plenty of seeds, time and space. The first thing you need to answer is can you and do you feel confident to undertake the task with a steady hand? Second is can you afford to sacrifice both plants if it goes wrong? Like two plants sharing one tap root. If you answer yes to both of those questions I would be more then happy to walk you through the best process, if you answer no to either one then I would recommend culling one of them as it is the safest option. whichever way you want to go you need to do it soon as autoflowers are movers with a short time frame and both will suffer if left in the same pot.

  • Puglover1
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    I was very shaking this morning. Guess I'll let the twins grow some more then just cut one at the dirt when I see who appears to be stronger? Mr.furley have you had twins or have advice to offer?

    I thought about trying to separate them but who knows which is the better of the two. They don't seem identical, more fraternal. They're both developing daily. The N Lights A-G start had 3 cotyledons, is that common or a bad thing?

    My kingdom for humidity. I hate humid weather but I rarely can hit 40% RH in the closet right now. Doors open just enough for the fan base, towels wicking from basins of water in each corner and the tower osc fan blowing at a basin of water, making waves in it. Turned the thermostat down, furnace runs 1-2x during the night, the pets keep me warm in bed.

    I have a console humidifier, good enough for the whole house. Should I humidify the whole bedroom and keep the door closed?

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  • Puglover1
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    That's what I was thinking. Either try to separate the little one out to another container or let them grow, but if they both take off I wasn't sure if that would be taking a chance of causing problems. Like a double plant, too many roots for the pot? But yes, it truly has to be a twin. New pots, newly mixed medium, seed in water with a drop of peroxide, later into paper towel/Ziploc for a day. There was one seed in the towel, I rolled it into the hole I had ready in the pot. I didn't know twins were a possibility.

  • Rwise
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    If they are truly twins from one seed I would let them be and let both grow in the space they are in. I mean what if you kill the wrong one? And how would you know?

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  • HobbitGDF
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    The more they grow more chance damage both when taking one out right? Idk for real. Just seems legit

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  • Puglover1
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ID:	510325 The twins, day two and day one. Not sure what to do with them but the pots all need watering. I planted the NL & SL starts a week ago tonight, only been spraying the top soil or watering around the bases. Click image for larger version  Name:	TwinSituation.jpg Views:	0 Size:	3.24 MB ID:	510321Click image for larger version  Name:	TwinsSeeds.jpg Views:	0 Size:	3.89 MB ID:	510322
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  • HobbitGDF
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    yeah would wait till its strong enough to transplant or just kill one

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  • Puglover1
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    HobbitGDF What should I do now? Wait and see a few days? A fan quit overnight, I'm leaving in an <hour for a dr appt 2 hrs away. I've had a week of stress to last a year. But it was nice to see the seed wasn't a dud.

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  • HobbitGDF
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    Yes they do have twins some times. Lucky yours ain't tangled up bad (from what you can see and distance apart)

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  • Ckbrew
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    Spontaneous generation? Amazing plant.

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