Using germination bags- with photo examples.

[Weed Pharma]

For photoperiod plants-The veg rooms bring the plants to the correct size for the flower room. If they grow too tall- ( I usually veg for 3-4 weeks, but can for 8 weeks without major issues)- I simply use LST techniques to get the canopy down.
Careful timing is important. I also use auto's to fill in any tent spaces, if needed.

I do not have to tend every day once they are set as a seedling/rooted clone- and can be checked once every 3-4 days.

I have set up a SWICK for a 1 week vacation and it worked great.

http://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum/growing-community/35996-testing-a-swick-type-watering-system-for-vacation-watering

I am leaving in a week for 12 days and will have someone dump water in the SWICK once or twice.
The trick is to time the crop so it's at week 4 & 5 in flower (as very little happens then).

[ZigZag]

WeedPharma_ thanks for the germ bag info_ all the same concerns I had so I'm going to try them next time around. The less interruptions between stages seems to grow plants faster as long as they aren't getting over or under watered. More time intensive but not for long because you don't need any recovery time between transplants. I liked that!

[ZigZag]

WeedPharma_ You seem to figured out a way to get a veg and flower room, in a small space.....It seems like a good way to go as long as someone is there to take care of the plants most every day. If the flowering plant takes longer to mature than expected do you just keep the veg plant going until the budding one is ready for harvest? Seems like you could end up with some large plants if you had to extend the veg period more than six weeks.You must have to select strains carefully. Might have to see if I can set up something like that next time. Cheers!

[ZigZag]

To darn wet and cold here, wish I could grow outdoors_ then each seed would produce more bud since my plants could grow as tall as they wished,The grow room I have indoors can take three 4' x3' plants or six 2'-3' plants. I'm on my fourth grow and just trying different methods to see what works best for my growing environment. We only have a fraction of the pests and diseases you folks in warmer places do so thats one thing I don't need to worry about too much_ so far. Mostly just regular spiders, mosquitos and black flies. Lucky me, they don't eat my plants even if they do get inside.

[Weed Pharma]

One week ago, this was a seed in the fridge and is now 2 5/8" tall with first normal leaf set emerging.

[Weed Pharma]

yup- I did old school (indoors) before I came across these germbags. (after trying everything else out there<--too much work and slows down the whole process).

The biggest problem I had was watering a 3 gal pot to keep the seed moist or just watering around the planted seed, which dried out too fast.

The germbag provides the correct amount of moisture around the seed- by wicking excess off into the soil- yet the area within the bag stays moist. Once the seedling shows a few inches- I water around the bag.

That said, with outside grows mother nature takes care of that for you.

Another benefit is being able to use a seedling friendly soil mixture- especially if you use a hot or organic soil-which could burn/stunt the seed until roots are formed.

The auto Purple Ryder, in the first set of pics went from a seed in the refrigerator to sprout in 3 days!
(no acclimation to room temp- 24hrs, no soaking of the seed-12-24hrs, no paper towel germination 24-36hrs and no transplant shock)

And with the amended soil, which can take it to harvest- it's literally a 1 step and done- with just watering until harvest.

The bags are pennies, so cost is not an issue.

[desertdan]

I guess I don't understand. Please enlighten.

[desertdan]

I grow outdoors old school. I just plant the seeds knuckle deep in warm moist, in sunshine and good soil. I get 90% sprout with good seed. Why all the fancy sprout routine?

[ZigZag]

A few questions_ what benefit do the germ bags provide_good drainage and moisture retention? It seems they would be a great way to monitor root development but is exposure to light a problem once the roots have grown to the outside? Is that how you know its time to transplant them? They look like a cool idea....I just tried rock wool for planting in coco and wasn't impressed. then I tried rapid rooters and the seedlings are developing faster. It would be great to be able to monitor root development but start the seeds in the same medium you're going to grow in. To date I've been starting them in plastic cups and then transplanting once the leaves reach the edge of the cups, then cutting the cups away and transplanting.
it works pretty well but sometimes you loose a bit of the roots....if you could just "transplant the germ bags straight into the grow medium then you wouldn't need to worry about damaging the roots any...

[Nartak]

What a presentation!!Man thanking you for providing such a guide!! I wouldn't do it as i am growing in hydro and i use humidity dome+rooters for the germination but this is one hell of a guide step by step!!Thanks for going into the photo-sharing trouble mate!

[Weed Pharma]

And 3 days later: it popped!



Nothing left to do but water it!

[Weed Pharma]

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[Beach_Town_Brit]

That's cool, I'm tempted to order some. Thanks for posting

[Weed Pharma]

Yes, I use them for AUTO's, Photoperiod seeds and clones.
Yes- Autos are planted in the final pot- you just water within the bag until it sprouts- it retains moisture well.
Yes- the roots come right through the bag- I never remove the germabag and have no idea what type of fabric it is.
The two at the end were clones, which are place thru a peatpot with a little stem showing out the bottom before covering with soil.

[insomniaczzz]

I am a tiny bit confused. Do you use them in different ways? In one pic you bury the big in big pot and then plant seed. Do the roots break through the bag. In you last picture posted if looks like you grow the seedling just in the bag. Do you remove bag before transplanting. Those two small one at end look very healthy! What are the bags made of? Looks kind of like a tea bag material.