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**Mr.furley** · 09-29-2020, 08:57 PM

I wouldn't Harvest early nor lose sleep over it, nanners happen and any damage from them has already been done so just keep going at this point.

you can wet your fingertips and pluck the little one you find off but honestly sometimes nanners don't even give you seeds sometimes they do. I'd be more concerned about finding what cause them heat, light stress, light leak, or genetics.

**ChadWestport** · 09-29-2020, 11:46 PM

Check your pm's

**newbutoldgrower75** · 09-29-2020, 11:58 PM

Thanks Mr.furley kingfish . But I think it's a lot worse than what I thought. When I got back from my appointment I had a better look and found a few buds like these, the banana's are at the tops, sides still seem fine.

After doing some research on the site etc while waiting to see the doctor haha, I realised that I really don't have any choice but to pull them now. I got to sample a bud that I accidentally snapped off about 7-10 days ago, can't remember when exactly, been drying and curing it since then. Even without flushing the plant at that stage, the colour/potency/taste/smell was quite impressive. I'm not up with the terms people use like 'couchlock' etc. But it was a head and body stone, but still had enough energy and brain power to get things done

. Thats more the feeling I am looking for, also makes you smile a lot haha.

Here are a couple of pics, any help would be great. I did use tweezers to remove the banana from the bud before I left for my appointment. I think the big rise in humidity might of had something to do with it, up to 70% during the day for 3 days. I live in Victoria (Australia), and we can literally get 4 seasons in 1 day here. I do have a dehumidifier now for the room that the tent is in, but thinking it might have been too late. You live you learn, sometimes the hard way Thanks.

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**kingfish** · 09-30-2020, 07:56 AM

newbutoldgrower75 , I don't worry too much about the little bananas. I'll be more concerned about the 70% humidity. You have to get that down or you take a chance of getting Bud rot. When I'm in flowering, I don't want my RH over 35%.

**CaptainWiese91** · 09-30-2020, 10:17 AM

Pinch them of.
I had one in my last grow. Never had a seed in that grow.

**DW2** · 09-30-2020, 11:30 AM

Howdy newbutoldgrower75, Like Mr F said, nothing to loose sleep over. In fact, I love to see nanners on my plants because the only 'problem' with them is that you will have some feminized seeds! I have been using the seeds from previous nannered plants for the last five grows they have all been female plants with as good or better quality and yields than the 'mother' plants. I intentionally stress (with heat and light changes) to get them to nanner, Tha amount of seeds produced (if any) has always been very low especially when compared to 'normally' pollinated plants.

**newbutoldgrower75** · 09-30-2020, 09:39 PM

Thanks kingfish Mr.furley ChadWestport CaptainWiese91 DW2 I have taken everyones advise and didnt chop the girls yet. I think after the intense research on the net yesterday and seeing so many different answers, it got a bit overwhelming for me. That and dealing with some medical things, my head is abit everywhere at the moment and finding it a bit hard to concentrate on something for too long. After relaxing after a couple and getting my thoughts together, I realised I am probably overreacting a little and that I will follow the advise from you guys as that is what has gotten me this far through the grow. And thanks for that trick with wetting the fingers before plucking Mr.furley, it made sense to do it that way, I appreciate it.

So another morning and yet another problem, thrip. Being this late in flowering stage I only want to find away to get rid of them without harming the buds. Im pretty sure they only got into the tent yesterday when I opened the window in the room to let some fresh air in. I only noticed they were there this morning when I watered, they started jumping around the coco. There seems to be a few of them but only in the one pot. I checked plants/leaves, even gave a couple of branches a shake, didnt see one. And no visible damage to leaves. Could it be possible that the floor fan is keeping them low in the coco? The only thing I can come up with at the moment to help with them is to put plastic down on top of the coco, which is suppose to stop thrip turned adult from getting to your plant. Would this help? Any other ideas for plants this far into flowering?

**newbutoldgrower75** · 09-30-2020, 11:47 PM

Thanks Mr.furley Im about to head down to the hardware and grab some sticky traps and see if I can get some to put under the micrscope. I had a quick look at fungus gnats and I think you are right, there is a good chance it is fungus gnats. I will post some pics and some more information once I have it.

Those pics of the trichomes are from the left hand side plant, thats the one that first popped a banana. The one at the back of the tent has buds twice as thick, it was the runt at the start but has had the sweet spot the whole way through the grow. It seems a week in front of the other two. Will take some pics of the trichomes on that one and post them with the other pics.

Definitely have a much clearer head about things today, thank you. Its been a tough few weeks with the girls, but Im hanging in there. Thanks again.

**newbutoldgrower75** · 10-01-2020, 02:38 AM

Mr.furley and anyone else who might be able to help wth this. I was only able to get some clear sticky fly tape from the local hardware, cut some off and put it flat on the coco. Left it for an hour and had a look. I could make out what looked to be a couple of tiny mosquito amongst the coco that stuck to it, damn its sticky. I couldnt get a clear pic with the microscope, too much reflection from the tape. So decided to tip a bit of water in a spot where I first saw something this morning. Saw a couple of things crawling around so grabbed a clear solo cup and took a little bit of coco from where I saw some activity. I still couldnt get a good enough pic to show you but was able to get some video with the WiFi microscope. But even though it doesnt seem to go for long, the file is too big to upload.

I will give it a go at explaining what I saw until I can downsize the file to upload. With just my eyes I noticed a couple of really small insects that looked like they were flying, more of a light colour than a dark, when I put the coco in the cup. Once I got the coco under the microscope I noticed white wormy looking things moving through the medium at a medium to fast rate. When I watered this morning and I noticed that there was bugs in the medium, I first thought I noticed bugs similar to witchetty grubs but alot smaller. But I did wake and bake this morning, so I could be wrong haha. I will keep working on the video, but in the meantime if anyone could help with this it would be very helpful at the moment. Cheers.

**CaptainWiese91** · 10-01-2020, 02:49 AM

Sounds like thrips.
I had a little problem with them under my veg time. And I’ve used iso alcohol and water.
I found out here in flowering their colony don’t like sugar leaves, because of all the trichomes I think. Too sticky.
So after the alcohol - they got reduced a lot. And I thought shit what about if they go eat on my sugar leaves for the bud production. But no, they never ended there, so I just kept on spraying the fan leaves and eventually killed them all

**kingfish** · 10-01-2020, 08:41 AM

If you can get this. Get it. Two treatments, end of Thrips. You can use this all the way into flowering.

**DW2** · 10-01-2020, 12:42 PM

Howdy newbutoldgrower75, Sorry to hear about the bugs! When I have problems with critters, I use Azamax, both as a foilar spray and added directly into the reservoirs. It is a plant derived product the (according to the directions) interferes with the reproductive cycle of the larvae, so it is not a 'quick fix' but it can be used up to 24 hours prior to harvest. When added to the reservoir, it becomes systemic and gets to the critters that eat on the plants. It has worked well for me with gnats, white flies, and a tiny worm like thing that I once had in the roots (still have not found what they were).
Good luck!

**ChadWestport** · 10-01-2020, 03:46 PM

My way of dealing with bugs is to start-over. It's only happened 2 or 3 times, and the problem wasn't bad, but following the proper protocols for greenhouses I removed everything. Which not many cannabis companies will, because it is lost money and time but I have seen large places not properly deal with bugs and they had to build another $2 million facility because it was effected yield so badly. In the ultimate face palm, they took clones from the old facility and brought them to the new one..... Two years later, they built another facility. But I digress, if you can get to harvest without knowing you will be smoking bugs, do it. But after that, take a short break and sterilize, get new pots, new soil etc. Kill the adults, let the eggs hatch and kill them too.

Where do you suspect the thrips came from? Have you brought any clones into the garden?

**buds73** · 10-01-2020, 04:45 PM

Watched a video on youtube where a guy used a product called "Avid" for pests it gets into the plant and stays in the plant for 60 days so i'm guessing it would only be safe to use whilst in veg or very early flowering phase he said that was $120 for what looked like maybe a 200ml bottle, he used another one which was a powder called F40 or N40? that lasts for 45 days.

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Help needed please..looks like a yellow banana.

Help needed please..looks like a yellow banana.

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