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    Supplemental Lighting for Flowering with Viparspectra V1200

    Thank you all for the guidance so far in my first grow (four WW feminized photos). I think so far so good (images attached of tent and one plant outside the tent) at 6 weeks in vegetative stage though feel like I have made a few non fatal mistakes but that is part of learning I suppose. I think I am going to flip to 12/12 lighting in a week or two and my question relates to supplemental lighting for the Viparspectra V1200 during the flowering/bloom stage. I have a 4x4x8 tent, and most everything I have read suggests that the V1200 may be lacking in light power for the flowering stage for my set up and that it does not have enough of the red spectrum in general. I am considering adding eight 23 watt (actual), 2700K CFLs OR four 90 watt (13 watt actual), 3000K LED flood lights in the corners of the tent, keeps my cost to ~$30, have all the wiring and sockets. Has anyone used supplemental CFL lights or LED flood lights during the flowering stage for similar LED lighting that I have. Below is a snippet from an article from Dan from The Green Sunshine Company about using LED flood lights for supplemental lighting and a link to the full article is attached. Thank you in advance for sharing your thoughts and experiences.



    "All Purple LED Light Owners

    We’re trying to do two things with grow lights that have mostly red and blue in their spectrum…
    1. Blue Light Correction – This is the most important step to fix if your grow light has primarily blue light. If you own a “ViparSpectra” this is definitely a step to take for you (this light is really meant for aquariums). Try to find the manufacturer’s web page. You’re looking for a spectrum graph. You can also count the number of red and blue LEDs to get an idea. If there is an equal or higher amount of BLUE than RED, you’re going to want to fix that for all stages of growth. We want blue light to be UNDER 30% and OVER 10% of the total spectrum.
    2. Full Spectrum Correction – Our goal here is to nourish plants with some full spectrum light (green/yellow) to help them thrive with more light information. In addition, that should help your eyes out! Adding white light will assist you in caring for your plants so you can see them in natural color. A win-win!



    My recommendation is to add a 50W Warm White LED Flood Light to your garden. It’s about $35 with CREE LEDs, so you cannot go wrong. Above all, it will snap most blue-heavy or red/blue spectrums into balance. These flood lights are great to have around and I use them myself! They are fantastic to use on their own for young seedlings and can easily be positioned into tight areas of your grow space.

    Plus, the more light sources you have in your grow space, the better light penetration and spread you will have. This means a bigger usable grow area and more growth deeper in your canopy. What’s more, you can experiment with positioning these lights to the side and getting more angles of light sent towards your plant that will create bushier growth… Talk about an upgrade!

    To start, find out how much your grow light pulls from the wall, not the advertised wattage. For example, the Viparspectra 300W, while advertised at 300W actually pulls 136 Watts from the wall. Be sure to find the right number. You’ll have to search for it!

    You’ll want to take Total Watts / 2 and shoot for that in your supplemental lighting. So if Total Watts is 136, half that is about 70W. We want about 70W of supplementary light.

    If you have a ViparSpectra 300W, we’d want 1 or 2 50W Warm White LED Flood Lights for our light supplementation project.

    What are you waiting for? At such a low price to get started with just one, you can’t go wrong."
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    Welcome!  My name is Dan, and I’m excited you’re here. I study the science of photobiology and let me tell you, not many grow lights out there are giving your ...

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    I've used cfls, a bunch for tightening up buds in late flower, you got to get them close like an inch or two away, but they work fine, but do get hot.
    If I was you I'd go with led strips, like Farmall does, maybe he will chime in to help you much better than I can.
    I've never used that flood light type ,you showed.
    I've owned 2vipar 450s, and I've never had buds that were hard,dense from those 450s, but they ain't got to be hard an dense to smoke good.
    My 315cmh grew hard buds, so does my HLG, when they get 75k, lux, which is 9inches away from canopy with the HLG. My first grow with the Hlg, I had my light to far away, 12inches, around 50k lux, an my buds were airy, not hard, but they smoke good.
    GoodLuck
    Cfls for a week or two
    315lec for everything else
    Dug up Ms.topsoil, with perlite added
    36x36x63 inch tent.
    6inch - exaust - intake fans an scrubber
    Smart pots
    Molasses
    Autoflowers

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      #3
      I pay around .16 / kw for power and using 2 sets of 325w frames of 8 led strips plus fans, it added under $10 to my electric bill. The product has as good a quality, size and density as any other lighting I have tried. And that’s all of them LEC, HPS/MH blurple , CFL.

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      • Greenlivin
        Greenlivin commented
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        Farmall- did you make your own strips? If so, would you mind giving a short bit on how/what you did? Thanks!

      • Farmall
        Farmall commented
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        Greenlivin and crunchyfrog. The easiest way to look at these style of strips and diy lighting is to watch this video. He does an great job in explaining the parts, process and end results. After that, if you have an absolute plan to do this, say so and I will point you in a few directions. I can tell you a 2x4 Light can run around $425US..start to finish depending on a few variables but....see if your into it first. As a tinkerer, I’ll try anything or try to fix anything. Some of the best items are things 75-100yrs old and work great


      #4
      Farmall Hi, thanks. Could I ask please for a link or more description of the led strip lights? When I google, I get 435,352 results😊 ha ha...

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        #5
        I'm really curious about those lights linked. $23 and you get a full spectrum 50w light?? What's even more is they can realistically be mounted anywhere. If I didn't just buy a new Mars Hydro I would definitely try these out.
        Current Grow:
        • Amnesia Auto Fem (Advanced Seeds) (1 gal contestant)
        • NYC Diesel (Advanced Seeds)
        • Strawberry Cheesecake (Seedsman)
        ​​​​Nutrients
        • Dr. Earth Organic dry amendments
        • Bloom City Organic- Foilar Spray, Cal Mag, Silica Boost, and Root Stimulator
        • Incredible Bulk Organic Bloom Booster
        • Dr. Earth Golden Bloom Organic Flower Enhancer
        • Black Strap Molasses
        • Mega Crop all purpose nutrients
        • Flower Fuel bloom booster

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          #6
          Hi, crunchy.
          It says that your v1200 pushes 500 watts of blurples. That's sufficient to flower a 10 sq ft area. You need to supplement for the additional 6 sq ft of canopy to achieve adequate light intensity. If you are set on using screw-in led bulbs, you'd need another 300 real watts of those bulbs to provide that much light.
          WHAT???
          5x5 grow space
          900w of Vero's and F-strips
          4-17gal totes self-made UC system.

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            #7
            So, I am going to add four, 3000K, LED flood lights (one in each corner) 60W (actual, each, 240W actual total), total cost $74 (Novostella 60W Outdoor LED flood lights, 3000K, Amazon). So, along with the V1200 I will have ~$410 in lighting. My calculations are 524 watts actual for the V1200 plus 240 watts actual for the LED flood lights = 764 watts total for ~48 watts/sq. ft. If it looks like I am doing more harm than good, I will remove the flood lights and count it up as experience and use them for some needed extra garage lighting. I am hopeful however, it will add some light power and red spectrum light needed in flowering. I went with the V1200 based on Nebula's 600W MH/HPS Cannabis Grow Setup & Tutorial for a 4 x 4 tent where she recommended a V1200 as an alternative to the 600W MH/HPS lighting but I am convinced it is not going to have the power needed for really strong flowering and bud growth/weight for my four plants. I am just looking for the most economic option from where I am today to get the most yield from my current grow. Yes, I could just get a whole new 800W full spectrum light using LED strips or other comparable light source but I do not want to invest that much right now until I am sure I want this as a lifetime hobby.

            I will sort of have to play it be sight and feel when I set these up as to how far from the plants I will put the lights. Also, any suggestions on how I should introduce the new lights to the plants? I mean,should I just introduce all four of the flood lights at max distance from the plants and put them on the current 18/6 schedule I have now and then give it a few days to adjust height above plants and then a few more days before flipping to 12/12 or should I introduce them more slowly.

            Getting anxious about the flowering stage as, from everything I have read, it is the stage of growing where all of the "out of left field" issues start to show up. For vegging, at least once out of the seedling stage, these plants seem extremely hardy and want to grow in spite of their novice caretaker.


            The 600W HPS is king of cannabis growing when it comes to hobby-sized, indoor grows. Although newer technology exists, nothing beats the output can provide!
            Last edited by crunchyfrog; 05-25-2020, 07:39 AM.

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            • Greenlivin
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              I’d start the new lights at about 18” from canopy and monitor from there. Good luck!

            • Farmall
              Farmall commented
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              Good plan and I hope it works out for you... just remember that light technology has changed 3 times from the date of many articles published only 2 years ago. While HPS has been a proven winner, investigate some other LED options for the future...which again will change

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