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    Flushing Plants Before Harvest Is Unnecessary says Rx Green Tech.

    IMPACT OF DIFFERENT FLUSHING TIMES ON QUALITY AND TASTE IN CANNABIS SATIVA L.
    Data presented by: Stephanie Wedryk, PhD, Director of R&D at Rx Green Technologies Taylor Wall, Research Operations Lead at Rx Green Technologies Ryan Bennett, Research Associate at Rx Green Technologies

    SUMMARY
    Rx Green Technologies evaluated the effects of different flushing times on chemical profile, flavor, and smoking characteristics in Cannabis flower.
    • Flushing periods of 14, 10, 7 and 0 days were imposed on Cherry Diesel.
    • No differences were detected between flush treatments for yield, potency, or terpenes.
    • Analysis of mineral content of leaves indicated small changes in content of iron and zinc.
    • Taste test panelists tended to prefer flower flushed for 0 days.
    INTRODUCTION
    Taste and combustion qualities of Cannabis are dependent on the chemical characteristics of the flower. These chemical characteristics can be influenced by management practices during the growing cycle. For this reason, many Cannabis growers implement a flushing period where only water is fed to plants in the final days to weeks before harvest. While many cultivators attest to the effects of a flush, no scientific studies have been conducted to validate this practice. Rx Green Technologies has undertaken a first of its kind study to determine the influence of different flushing times on the chemical profile, flavor, and combustion characteristics of Cannabis flower.

    MATERIALS AND METHODS
    Cannabis variety Cherry Diesel (Cherry OG x Turbo Diesel) was grown at the Rx Green Technologies R&D Facility using Rx Green Technologies nutrients and Clean Coco. Grow A, Grow B and E-Plus were fed during the vegetative stage and Bloom A, Bloom B, E-Plus, and Bulk were fed during the flowering cycle. The first flushing period began 14 days before harvest. The other flushing periods were ten, seven, and zero days before harvest. Each flushing period was tested on 12 different Cherry Diesel plants divided into four different groups (replications) spread evenly across the flowering room tables. Flower and fan leaf samples were collected from each flushing treatment the first day of flush and the day before harvest to quantify concentrations of essential plant nutrients. After harvest, trial plants were cured before determining final trimmed flower weight, terpene and THC concentrations. Trim was evaluated by an extractor for THC, yield, and appearance of the extract or “wax”.
    To determine smoking flavor and characteristics, samples of each flushing period were distributed to Cannabis industry experts in a blind taste test. Each participant received one sample of each flushing time without knowledge of its treatment. Participants were asked about their personal Cannabis flavor preferences before tasting. After tasting, participants were asked to rate the sample for flavor, harshness of smoke, and color of ash.

    Data collected during the course of the trial were analyzed statistically to determine whether flushing times affected smoking quality, flower weight, or chemical characteristics of Cannabis. Statistical analysis of data allows us to quantify whether differences in the numbers are due to the treatments imposed or are results of the natural variations observed when growing plants.

    RESULTS AND DISCUSSION
    Visual differences in fan leaves between flushing times were apparent the day before harvest. Plants flushed for ten or 14 days had leaves that were more yellow, necrotic and dry than plants flushed for zero or seven days (Figure 1a-d). The color of the 14 and ten day flushed leaves indicates a greater breakdown of chlorophyll in the plant, leading to reduced greenness




    Figure 1. Fan leaves collected from Cherry Diesel plants the day before harvest. Flushing times depicted are (a) 14 days, (b) 10 days, (c) 7 days, and (d) 0 days.

    Yield, THC, and Terpenes
    The flower weight, THC and terpene content of cured flower were determined for each flushing period. The data were analyzed statistically to determine whether the numerical differences in the data were due to the treatment. Overall, there were no significant differences between treatments for flower weight, THC or terpene content (Figure 2a-c) (P < 0.05). Flower weight per plant averaged 97.3 g and THC content averaged 21.9%. The dominant terpenes in the flower were beta-myrcene, beta-caryophyllene, and terpinolene, giving the flower an earthy and spicy smell (Figure 2c). Overall, flushing times did not impact flower weight, THC, or terpenes in Cherry Diesel.

    Rx Green Technologies recently looked into the cannabis cultivation practice of flushing plants with water directly prior to harvest, which cannabis cultivators have long thought improves cannabis quality and flavor." data-reactid="18" type="text" data-xf-p="1" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(20, 20, 20); font-family: "Segoe UI", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, "Fira Sans", "Droid Sans", sans-serif; background-color: rgb(239, 243, 227);">



    Figure 2. Flower weight (a), THC (b) and terpene content (c) for Cherry Diesel flushed for 14, 10, 7 or 0 days before harvest. Significant differences are indicated at the 0.05 probability level.

    Mineral Content of Flowers at Harvest
    Flower samples taken the day before harvest were analyzed for content of essential plant nutrients. Overall, there was no significant change in the mineral content of flower as a result of different flushing treatments (Figure 3). In Cannabis flushed for 14 days, nitrogen was 6.7% lower than the zero-day flush treatment (Figure 3a). Continuing to feed nitrogen can increase its concentration in the plant, reducing the need for the plant to use its reserves for essential functions. Phosphorus, potassium, calcium, magnesium, and sulfur were similar for all four flushing treatments (Figure 3a-b).
    There were changes in iron concentrations due to flushing treatments. Iron was at least 50 ppm higher in flower flushed for 14 or ten days (Figure 3c). Small changes were observed for zinc as well. Zinc was approximately 73 ppm higher in flower flushed for 14 days. The fluctuation in zinc did not follow a consistent pattern like iron. There was no significant change in manganese, boron, copper or molybdenum (Figure 3c). Nutrients like iron and zinc can accumulate in growing media over time. Feeding water during a flush may release some of these nutrients from the media into the plant. Additionally, zinc and iron are involved in the breakdown of chlorophyll occurring during senescence.
    Data generated from plant parts, whether it be nutrient or THC concentrations, is naturally variable as only small samples of plants are consumed in the analysis. This may explain some of the variation seen in the data presented here. In other crops, ranges exist which indicate whether nutrient concentrations in leaves are deficient or sufficient for growth. All nutrient concentrations detected in this study are within generally accepted ranges of leaf concentrations for each nutrient. Toward the end of the Cannabis flowering cycle, the plant starts to naturally senescence. Plants that are nearing the end of their life cycle will uptake fewer nutrients as they remobilize nutrients from other plant parts. This may explain why little difference was observed in the mineral content of flower flushed for different times.







    Figure 3. Mineral content of Cannabis flower of plants flushed for 14 , 10 , 7 , or 0 days. (a) Nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium content of Cannabis flower. (b) Calcium, magnesium, and sulfur content of Cannabis flower. (c) Micronutrient content of Cannabis flower.

    Extraction Efficiency
    Trim from Cherry Diesel was sent to an extractor to determine extraction yield and preferred characteristics of the wax. Cannabis flushed for 14 (17.97%) or ten days (18.21%) had the highest extraction yield compared to the seven (16.39%) or zero (16.17%) day flushes. However, the appearance of the wax for the zero-day flush was preferred over the other flush periods (Figure 4a-d). The zero-day flush was the clearest with least amount of nucleation. Although increased flush time resulted in higher extraction yields, the finished product was not as desirable for extraction.


    Figure 4. Wax extracted from Cherry Diesel trim flushed for (a) 14 days, (b) 10 days, (c) 7 days, or (d) 0 days.

    Taste and Smoke Characteristics of Flower
    Cured flower from Cherry Diesel was evaluated by a group of industry experts for flavor and smoking characteristics in a blind taste test. Overall, the duration of the flushing period had no impact on flavor, smoothness of smoke, or color of ash (Figure 5a-d) (P < 0.05). The seven-day flush period had the highest “bad” rating (21.1%) and the 0-day flush had the highest “great” rating (16.7%). Most panelists rated the flavor of the samples as “okay” or “good”. The ten-day flush had the highest “okay” ratings at 48.6% and the 0-day flush had the highest “good” rating at 47.2% (Figure 4a).
    The terpene profile, as tested by a third-party laboratory, indicated earthy to spicy flavors for all flush treatments. Most panelists rated the samples as either “earthy” or “sweet” (Figure 5b). Sweet was chosen as the predominant flavor by 38.9% of panelists for the ten and seven-day treatments and 32% of panelists selected sweet as the dominant flavor for the zero-day treatment. Panelists selected earthy most frequently (32.4%) as the dominant flavor for the 14-day flush.

    Taste test panelists rated the ash color and smoke quality of each sample. Ash color was predominantly black or gray (Figure 5c). Smoothness of the smoke increased with decreasing flushing time, although was not significantly different (Figure 4d). Thirty-six percent of testers rated the smoke from the zero-day flush flower as smooth whereas only 19.4% rated the 14-day flush flower as smooth. The 14-day flush had the highest percentage of harsh ratings (41.7%) compared to other samples. Panelists were asked for their flavor preferences before testing in order to determine whether personal preference would affect taste test results. Statistical analysis determined that personal preferences did not influence taste test outcomes (data not shown).











    Figure 5. Results of blind taste test of Cherry Diesel flower. (a)Ratings for overall taste of flower as bad, okay, good, and great. (b) Ratings for flavor profile of flower as earthy, sour, spicy, or sweet. (c) Color of ash after smoking of sample rated as white, gray, or black. (d) Smoothness of the smoke while smoking rated as smooth, medium or harsh. Significant differences are indicated at the 0.05 probability level.

    CONCLUSION
    In a first of its kind study, Rx Green Technologies evaluated the effects of flushing period on yield, potency, terpenes, mineral content, and taste characteristics of Cannabis flower. Overall, the length of the flushing period did not impact yield, potency, terpenes, or taste characteristics of Cannabis flower. Taste test results indicated a trend toward improved flavor and smoke quality with the zero-day flush. While there were no significant differences in nutrient content, there was a trend toward increased iron and zinc in flower flushed for 14 days. The results of this trial indicate that there is no benefit to flushing Cannabis flower for improved taste or consumer experience.

    https://www.rxgreentechnologies.com/...rialReport.pdf

    also here: New Research Shows Flushing Plants Before Harvest May Be Unnecessary

    #2
    TLDR:

    ..there is no benefit to flushing Cannabis flower for improved taste or consumer experience.


    ....and they didn't try to sell us anything either ....lol.


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      #3
      Good article vostok - you just reaffirmed what I've been thinking and doing for all my grows.

      I don't flush nor do I monitor the ph of my runoff.

      If I make a mistake in my feeding and need to resolve it - then I would flush with phed water - 6 gallons of it as I use 2 gallon pots.

      Didn't read the whole article as it is a too scientific for my mind.
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        #4
        I agree too. I’ve had to cut down plants due to emergency when in full feeding and had flushed for weeks and never see a difference. A few months ago I shared another article. Don’t remember exactly if high times or Leafly did a blind test with cannabis “experts” and all messed up.

        Stoping feeding for the last 7-10 days makes a lot of financial sense and also triggers ripening also called senescence

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          #5
          I must have confused what i do with flushing because my "flush" is just watering with plain ph'd water for the last week in coco or last couple days in hydro. To be clear are we referring to a chemical flush or large volume water flush? Because i do agree that it not necessary.

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            #6
            This is really interesting. So it sounds like the plant knows when it needs to stop uptaking the nutrients, and whether or not you add them doesn't matter bc the plant won't use them if it doesn't need them. Sound about right?
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            • 9fingerleafs
              9fingerleafs commented
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              Kinda does but at the same time nitrogen is actually visible and the plant can hoard t inside the leaves right until harvest. The argument is that it doesn’t really affect taste like people use to claim. Also we have to take into consideration this is a claim that predates modern hydro nutrients. It’s from a time where fertilizer was freaking toxic

            #7
            I use molasses and water last two weeks for my grows. That’s all they get and I am very pleased with my results. But I do prefer the taste of my plants with molasses than without, yes I have grew the same strain and used molasses and not used molasses and I prefer with.
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            • JohnEmad
              JohnEmad commented
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              Thanks for the post vostock. Not the first place I have read on research about this subject but very informative.

            #8
            I have mixed feelings about this study. I mostly agree with it but the only control in the test is “Duration” of flush. This to me leaves too many variables unanswered.

            What was their baseline EC for the nutrient solution? I’ve harvest plants at .8 EC without a flush and they were great and I’ve harvested plants that were given 2.0 EC without a flush that were terrible. Perhaps the EC would make a difference maybe it wouldn’t but this study doesn’t provide the answer because they didn’t test for that variable.

            What did they use for flush, water, pH’d water, RO water, enzymes, carbs, a combination of enzymes and carbs? I’ve seen all of these used by experienced growers and they all swear by their method but in this case the authors of the study don’t even mention what they used? Maybe it matters and maybe it doesn’t but it’s another variable that could alter the conclusion.

            Were the plants dried and cured in the same environment for the same period of time? Did they test for moisture content in the buds prior to the blind testing? They don’t mention it so I’m left to believe they didn’t monitor that particular control in this case. We all know drying and curing has an effect on the flavor, smoke, and smoothness of buds so why wouldn’t they include that information if they did control for it?

            I do believe that flushing is over emphasized in cannabis cultivation but given all of the variables that were overlooked in this study, I can’t personally view it as a substantial breakthrough that would end the discussion about flushing being necessary or not.

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            • Obi-Wan
              Obi-Wan commented
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              I agree, we use a lot of terminology in the cannabis community that doesn’t exactly fit the definition of what we’re actually doing. Personally, I consider “flushing”to be what we would do in a lockout situation. What we’re trying to do at the end of flower would more appropriately be termed “leaching” as we’re trying to get the plant to cannibalize itself, or leach the nutrients stored within. Another example is “Defoliation”, we use the term loosely in cannabis cultivation but the textbook definition would have us completely stripping the plant of all foliage indiscriminately . Those of us that “defoliate” cannabis plants generally try to selectively take leaves rather than removing all of them.

            • 9fingerleafs
              9fingerleafs commented
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              Just looking at other agricultural practices like tobacco growing, potash is not used to feed the plants because it makes the final product smoke poorly and affects taste.
              Also I think no one in the study takes into consideration many people over feed their plants which can certainly have a negative impact in the final product. In this case I could see why flushing can help

            • Tersky
              Tersky commented
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              Very well put. All of you lol. I was thinking the same thing but couldnt express it right.

            #9
            JohnEmad I think that's what article is saying it's not necessary. And yes i do believe flushing for nute lockout is needed. I too have issue with this only do to what big commercial grows put into their plants. I don't use much of nothing chemical wise mostly all organic animal poop and just some age old organics bloom & molasses when the time comes. So I really don't flush and never ph'd runoff I watch and correct. Kinda like Canuck147 does, but i'd hope those commercial grows flush the shit out of the crops before harvest. Who knows what they use to produce faster crops??
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            • 9fingerleafs
              9fingerleafs commented
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              I’ve seen facilities in video tours and usually the entire operation runs only 3 lines. Veg. Flower and ro

            • Greenlivin
              Greenlivin commented
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              I don’t know about that 9fingerleafs. I see commercial grows pumping multiple lines of product. A lot of people just throw a little bit of this and a little bit of that and don’t realize they’re redundancy.

            • 9fingerleafs
              9fingerleafs commented
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              Yeah I guess that’s true too. It’s more like the ideal scenario where everything is dialed in and works like clockwork

            #10
            I think the bottom line question I'd like answered is how do I prevent growing bud that burns to a black crust instead of a fine gray-white ash?
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            • 9fingerleafs
              9fingerleafs commented
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              Just gotta work on drying more evenly or the bud being more dry when smoking. Also the grinding plays a big role

            • UndergroundFarmer
              UndergroundFarmer commented
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              I put my current grow in flush this weekend to see how it turns out. I have grown without flushing mostly because the first few batches caught me by surprise when they were ready before I was. The strain that seemed to be worst for turning to black crust was ILGM Afghani. Curing for over a year still didn't help. I wound up turning my last few ounces to some very nice gummies. Also, I finally got a combo pH/ppm/temp pen to help keep everything better dialed in than in previous grows.

            • Greenlivin
              Greenlivin commented
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              I picked up one of those meters and it makes life so easy.

            #11
            Ok, if flushing does nothing, then what makes the dispensary bud so damn harsh? What did they do to it? I have had the same strain and it was nice, from the shops tear your lungs out! I thought it was because they did not flush it, so now I am lost again.
            I grow my own of course, I use old school organics, such as animal shit, I dont PH anything, I dont flush or try to cause water to run out of the pot.

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            • vostok
              vostok commented
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              thanks to covid for the first time in years ...Years.. I've actually toked some Kerela that was fresh, just cured(about 3 weeks from harvest)I indeed some shitty cloro-fill you can taste but shining thru was the fruit salad mix that made this a top landracer for many years, before I'm toking old favorite stuff I held back for myself(northern lights), very much like the LA disp weed hard fragile, maybe cooked under them display lights...who knows

            • Rwise
              Rwise commented
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              I have tried dispensary bud that IMHO was bad, it hurt the lungs to smoke it
              We have not been legal long enuf for the bud on the shelf to get old, and since C19 sales are up!
              And I dont smoke the bud that hurts, I myself toss it as I dont know what they did to make it so bad.
              I will be staying organic!

            • RagWeedDWC
              RagWeedDWC commented
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              Not in a legal state, but travel to a few that are. To me, weed coming from the dispensaries is harsh (Had me flushing, etc, second thoughts on that). I assumed that it was the nutrient loads these plants were given for production.

            #12
            Flushing to fix a problem has become one of my tools to use, I also flush prior to harvest and use several products to assist. From the document above it looks like flushing to fix is a go and flushing to clear the chemicals is just wasting time
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              #13
              Sounds like Trying to reinvent the wheel isn’t the best option after all lol. The plant does know and “feel” just read the book what a plant knows.

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                #14
                Originally posted by Cali View Post
                Sounds like Trying to reinvent the wheel isn’t the best option after all lol. The plant does know and “feel” just read the book what a plant knows.
                Indeed any 13yo school kid knows that all plants will change their 'root sweat' (exudate) to attract certain/desired nutes in the rootzone(pot/treeline)

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