HELP - Building a tiny grow box

[Catman35]

Hi Guys,

I'm planning on making a tiny grow box around 1 foot x 1 foot x 3 foot.

Do you think I could limit the growth of pure power plant to under 2 feet if I flower (12/12 light) from seed? I'm thinking if I get one big Cola and lollipop it then I will be ok with the limited yield. I'm just worried that it might outgrow the space.

https://weedseedsexpress.com/pure-po...eminized-seeds

I am not keen on growing any other strain. I think this strain is good for my medical needs and it is a low odour strain so thats good too.

Do you think topping and Scrog or LST is a good idea in such a small area?

Also has anyone used a small ioniser to negatively charge the air and reduce smell? I would love to know how that worked out.

Best,
A

[FunkyButtLovin]

You could definitely keep it under 2'. If you do 12/12 from seed it probably won't even need lst. You must not be a heavy smoker if it's worth your time and effort to spend 3 months growing a plant for a few joints. You could do some pretty extensive training and up the yields but you'll need to spend some time vegging.

[SoOrbudgal]

Totally agree with FunkyButtLovin " micro greens "

[Catman35]

Turns out I have like 1.5 feet. Think that is doable? I've put a deatiled post below.

Thank you so much for this.

[Jordann]

I'd try and get atleast 4 short colas before switching to 12s. If you top early enough would have lots of room

[Catman35]

Hey does that mean I have to top twice?

Thank you for this!

[Jordann]

Top twice or top once and keep 4 branches below where you topped.

[quietlybinary]

I also agree with Jordann that I would veg and train first before switching to 12/12. I think it will be good to consider the widest pot size possible but not necessarily fill it all the way up with grow medium.

[quietlybinary]

I like Jordann's idea of adding soil under the root ball I would never think of doing that. It is like a re-plant into the same pot

[Catman35]

That doesnt solve my height problem though - makes it slightly worse

[Jordann]

True. I'm speaking from my 8 foot tall tent. I didn't think of that.

[Catman35]

Hi FunkyButtLovin, Jordan and QuietBinary!

Thank you so much for your advice.

1. So I'm designing the cabinet on google sketchup and turns out I forgot to account for 6 inches between my light and plant. (I'm an idiot! *sigh*)

2. I'm planning on using a 40W LED. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...qh_dp_hza?th=1https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...qh_dp_hza?th=1

3. This leaves like 1 foot 5 inches of pure plant grow space. (Accounting for 6 inches of soil and 6 inches for the grow light)

4. I will use a 10" x 6" inch pot

5. Will topping early make my plant shorter? do I need to top once or twice?

6. Do you think its still viable to grow a plant of pure powerplant? I smoke rarely so this will be enough for me. How many grams do you guys think I will get from this?

7. Really appreciate you guys for helping me design this I wish you could see the plan Its super stealth!

Best,
A

[Jordann]

That led would do good in a space like that.

[Toker1]

I hear the ionizer will alter the final flavor. I went with a scrubber (aka active carbon filter and fan set up).

[Toker1]

The ionizer changes the charge of the particles suspended in the air. Those charged particles will drop to the floor. You must vacuum up those particles in order to get rid of the smell.
Your carbon filter will work well by itself until the carbon becomes too full. If you change it out like once per year you will never reach that saturation point.

[Catman35]

Ok awesome - pure power plant is a low odour strain anyway so the carbon filter should be enough then.

Any advice on my height problem?? (with reference to post #5)

Thank you Toker1!!

[Toker1]

I have never grown with such height restrictions. Sorry. What I can tell you is LED requires more distance between light source and plant canopy than cfl does. You can bring a cfl a few inches away from the plant and never burn her. Good luck!!

[quietlybinary]

I am curious to know about if the light pulls 40w from the wall or if they just value it at 40w. It is possible that the light is actually pulling under 10w from the wall which would not be enough so it is worth checking out. Also there are a lot of techniques in the Solo Cup Grow Off that will be helpful to you if you take some time to check the thread out.

[Catman35]

Yeah I was just looking at that and wondering if any of them are Sativas like Pure Power Plant?! Crazy stuff over there its super impressive!!!

I'm not sure how to check really, it says "Actual Power" and sellers on amazon keep trying to rip everyone off

[quietlybinary]

Hey man, Yeah usually if you ask the seller it is information about the product that you are entitled to.

[FunkyButtLovin]

Just a quick thought, a fluorescent tube fixture mounted to the ceiling and using blocks under the pot to bring it closer might be the ticket. Then as it grows you just lower the pot (in conjunction with lst) to keep the plant in the sweet spot.

[Catman35]

That's a really good idea - I'm thinking of using this IKEA bookshelf to make the box and it lets you move the shelf up and down. This way I can put the pot on the shelf and keep adjusting! XD

In case you're interested here's the shelf https://www.ikea.com/in/en/p/billy-o...ite-s49287393/

Thank you so much!

[Catman35]

Toker I'd love to but in a 1 x 1 x 3 space dont you think side lighting will be too close for comfort?

[Toker1]

It’s it’s a cfl you might be able to fit it. I can say for sure that a cfl will not penetrate 3 foot below its fixture. Just an idea to help out that lower growth. I have never grown anything, besides a mother plant for clones, in a size that small before. Maybe someone else with micro grow experience can chime in on that one.

[MagicMike66]

I’d just buy weed instead of growing 1 cola for 3/4 months to get a few joints once it’s dried. Not worth the effort imo

[Catman35]

I see what you're saying - I rarely smoke though its just for occasional use. Besides where I'm from you get low quality bud FULL OF SEEDS.

[Jordann]

Toker1 I get the start off small thing but looking back at the money sitting in boxes in my storage, I kinda wish I would of started off abit bigger and I could still be using the not so small equipment now..but we're all different.

[Toker1]

Yeah, we all have different experiences. I saw a guy running 10 lights, thousands of dollars in just electricity used. The guy had his lights set up wayyy to far above his canopy. Ended up with only a few Ozs because he got some really bad advice. Unless you own a time machine, that’s a loss he will never gain back. Each is their own.

[Jordann]

What are your thoughts on these. Fit a regular socket. Can always add more, cooling fan inside. I'm looking at getting maybe 8 or 10 to cover the corners and edges of my tent. They were recommended to me by someone who has grown for years. They have a 150 watt option as well. The 300 is perfect for 1 plant.

[Catman35]

Hey Jordann,

First of all thank you for taking out the time to suggest these. I was just thinking that wouldnt 300 Watts be over kill for a 1 foot x 1 foot area?

Also wouldnt there need to be a gap of 1 foot between the light and plants? Others seem to suggest that with CFLs plants can be like two inches away and theres no damage.

What do you think?

[Jordann]

I think they draw 50 to 75 actual watts but yea 8 to 12 inch away. I started with cfls. And after a month I had 30some bulbs in there with 2 way splitters tied into the socket with 2 way splitters into them. That was in a 2x2 6 foot tall closet I built CFLs you can't have too many. Can always add more as you go..now I have like 40 CFLs in a box in the back room. Just used for starting seeds. They do the job but I always got light airy buds. Got me high though.