Leaves drooping and have bubbles or wrinkles

[Guest]

Green75 are you being sarcastic lol

[LuckyAcres]

Nice strong looking lady you got there, solid structure too, you could definitely cut some more if vegg is ways away.

[Guest]

This is my first grow LuckyAcres Do you have any tips for defoliating?

[LuckyAcres]

Well, I've been pruning for a very long time so it's very intituive at this point. There are great tutorials on Gwe but pruning to me is a very personal thing. It's the artistry in gardening. I've had to learn lately though that ganja buds require special attention in regards to light. In veg it's all about air flow and bud spots. Keep them clean and healthy. In flowering timing is essential, between stretching and fattening, lots to keep in mind. Removing leaves that cover buds, bud spots that don't receive any direct light, branches that touch each other, keeping the plant in a vase shape, removing dead branches and leaves, sanitation, keeping a close eye on your plants, learning about and spotting early signs of pest issues...but quite honestly if you read through all the tutorials a couple of times you'll have a good head start. Next I'd suggest reading grow journals, green75 is one of the more agressive pruners here, that'd give you an idea of what to aim for maybe. It's more of my pruning style, just gotta get my brain around the particulars of this plant.

[alltatup]

I agree w/ Lucky: once you start to get the hang of it, it does become intuitive. But exactly how Lucky put it!!!!

[Nartak]

I would top her and defoliate her as well....

Quite old doesn't clarify weeks of age nor flowering stage or not lol!! If she is not in flower - if she is not long after 4 weeks veg and if she is doing good in growth,GO FOR IT!!
Cut the head off right down to where your lights are at a good distance,chop the bottom growth off and train her open !! Check greens or my grow or Nebula's manifold/topping training guides on the GWE site!!

[Guest]

Nartak I thought I put after that it was about 2 months. So at this stage do you guys think it will be ok for me to remove all the big fan leaves on the plant so the shoots can get light?

[Nartak]

Nartak I thought I put after that it was about 2 months. So at this stage do you guys think it will be ok for me to remove all the big fan leaves on the plant so the shoots can get light?

Sorry man i did not see that!!Ok so now she looks beautiful!!You just gotta make her understand you don't want that popcorn!!Go down inside where there is no light and remove the small shoots,no point in growing them now,soon you can flip!

Look up lolipoping her!!She will need 2 more weeks of veg to recover fully from the topping and grow them shoots,don't waste energy on things that don't get light!

[Green75]

No sarcasm kron....she does look nice...I am not going to push people to cut on their plants....that is something you must learn and feel on your own....it's a very personal and intimate practice....you have to feel comfortable in taking what your ladies work so hard to make...you have to understand why you are taking them and what to look for so you don't take too many....fine line....
I started defoliation years ago out of pure greediness...kept growing too many plants thinking more was better....I had bushes mind you....full of fkn leaves!!! I started cutting and binding to make more room for more plants....cut cut cut till I had room for as many plants as I could fit in there....it was a 7x7 old coal room...I tried always to jam 20-25 plants in there....cut cut cut...over few harvests I noticed my buds getting bigger and longer than past uncut plants.....so what do I do....I go to my mom's house...she is a certified master gardener....I picked her brain about flowers and shrubs...told her I wanted some shrubs I could shape and grow outside my house in front yard. That's when she told me the golden rule!!!!!............

THE MORE YOU CUT THEM THE BIGGER THEY WILL GET

I took that piece of info and went in my basement and I had a young garden at the time....i topped every node in that room and cut Damn near all the leaves off...it was fkn drastic....when I was done I was sure I killed the whole lot.
Few days go by...plants come around....my nerves lighten a bit and I watched as my girls put on tons of new bud sites.....

My mom....unknowingly gave me my best harvest up to that date.....

Since then I have refined my trimming and topping to how I trim now....


So.....your girl looks great.....but she can look better!!

[Nartak]

This should be pinned!!Great intro story for topping/defoliating Greenie!!!

[alltatup]

Heard!!!!! Word!!!!!

[Guest]

Ok so to the question I've been trying to ask for a while lol. Does anyone have any tips on defoliating and topping other than the fact that I should do it haha

[alltatup]

Read the LST page on GWE: it contains such excellent information.

[Green75]

If a spot has two take one....really easy
Either top every node or turn the flip....our just top the top...it's up to you man...tons of info on the website as well....

[Guest]

I've been watched a few videos already and read a couple things and none of them really helped. The videos show them doing it all quickly but they dont tell which to clip or why and how it will affect it, stuff like that.

[Green75]

Look at my tika thread
Look at me blackberry thread
Look at my four ladies thread

[alltatup]

Krondiddly, read about defoliation more than once on GWE, and go look at Green75's pictures. We can look at what other people do, but like someone said above, you will have to practice and practice until you get the hang of it.

[Guest]

So heres what I've done. I got rid of the big fan leaves in the way of the shoots, except for the two closest to the top. Also I tied down all the shoots in a way they are all getting good light and will grow out and hopefully I'll get a better yield. It looks funny but I'm giving this plant 3 more weeks then I'm switching to flower. By then I think she will be nice and recovered and have some good branches for me.

[Guest]

[alltatup]

She's a big beauty, krondiddly.

[Green75]

Looks great...

[Guest]

Here's an update on my plant two weeks later. I want to start flowering but I'm wondering if it will be ok when it's this bushy. It really came back alot since I topped it, lollipopped it and defoliated. Also I've got another problem now. The plant has grown too close to the lights and I can't raise them it's starting to get light burn and I know when I start flowering it's gonna grow a nice bit higher. Any suggestions on what to do about that, and also is it ok to flower judging by the picture?

[Guest]

I'm thinking of either getting less powerful lights or bending it over. Not sure.

[Green75]

Your going to have to supercrop the whole plant...