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    #16
    Originally posted by JDU
    This one is 4 days old & already standing alone all day without a dome & throwing new growth. Roots CAN grow out of the bottom of a stem- if you want to wait that long.
    That is amazing in 4 days. I have not seen that even with an aeroponics cloner. ocgreen if all else fails that is your alternative.

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    • ocgreen
      ocgreen commented
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      Yes i agree. If i can't get this wave to survive then I will build an aero cloner

    • Spidermite
      Spidermite commented
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      Yes starramus that would be nice if we could figure out how to get strong roots in 4 days. When we are mass cloning we cut clones on monday and plant on sunday. That's the fastest we have been able to do regardless of what we used to clone them.

    • JDU
      JDU commented
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      Well for mass cloning this wouldn't be realistic. It's not how we did it at the nursery either- it takes too much attention to be cost or time efficient. & I didn't say they were 100% stable & rootbound in 4 days. If pulled & inspected some roots would be about 2 inches long while most are only a few centimeters.

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    • SoOrbudgal
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      Fine looking roots you have there

    #18
    BAM! Dood, what you're doing is definitely working.
    Nothing is foolproof for the sufficiently talented fool.

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      #19
      Found yet another guide and this part relates to Dingus' feedback about importance of water in the bottom of the tray:

      DAY 5

      Keep vents on dome open and check to see if pellets are dry.

      If the Rockwool or Peat Pellets are dry to the touch we will add half a liter (~2 cups) of water to the cloning tray itself which will fill the grooves in the bottom of the cloning tray.

      Important: If you add water, add it to the cloning tray itself to fill in the grooves at the bottom of the tray. Do not add water to the tops of the pellets at this point, or roots will take longer to form!

      The pellets will absorb the water from the bottom of the cloning tray. We want the roots to search for the moisture, and forcing them to move downwards to find water will force the plant to root more quickly.

      Adding water over the top of stems now will make it take longer for clones to root. Do not add water to the tops of your pellets!


      I think this may be a key mistake i was making (resoaking the rooter from top when it gets dry)

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      • DingusKhan
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        Nice! See, this is really pretty easy. It's just confusing when you have read it, but haven't tried it with your hands, yet.

      #20
      Alright ladies and gentlemen it's day 2 for mid to right. Sprayed dome only and filled base of tray with 350ppm 6.4 ph water right to the base of tray that the rooters sit in.

      Starting to feel like it might work this time around!

      Thanks again all

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        #21
        Day 3 - with the heating pad on I'm getting in the dome temps around 31C with lights on. Too high?

        Some plants were visibly wet (even though I'm not spraying plants directly anymore) so I opened vents.

        Still wet after a couple more hours so I took lid off completely.

        Planning to put lid back on once I see they're not visibly wet

        Still no roots visible out bottom of any. Even the ones on left which must be well over a week now.

        But having water in bottom seems to be the way to go. Keeps the bottoms nice and damp.

        Thanks again guys

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        • ocgreen
          ocgreen commented
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          Thanks Toker1

          I removed some of the water in bottom of tray so it's no longer directly at base of tray/keeping bottoms soaked.

        • ocgreen
          ocgreen commented
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          Just as an FYI to anyone following, all the clones on the left got extremely droopy and I thought they were dead after maybe 2-3 hours without a lid. Put lid back on after discovering and they're back to standing up.

          Now the lid is on but vents are open to try and prevent visible moisture on the leaves and bacteria forming

        • JDU
          JDU commented
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          ๐Ÿ˜Ž Told ya hahaha

        #22
        They're not wilting, and they even look a little bigger than the first pic you shared.

        Remember the root nubs are little, and covered by the rooter cube. The roots will have to grow long enough to protrude from the bottom, about a half inch.

        It's taken me about 10-14 days to get roots sticking out of rooters. But they're vigorous.
        Nothing is foolproof for the sufficiently talented fool.

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        • ocgreen
          ocgreen commented
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          I'm going to stay patient this time. Even if it takes another two weeks

        #23
        Yup Iโ€™m inpatient so I usually peek in the rock wool cubes to see if any roots are growing thatโ€™s usually how I find out. I start spreading the bottom or the top where I insert the clone to look.

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        • ocgreen
          ocgreen commented
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          Yeah it can be hard to wait. My last few batches I was peaking now and again but this time I am trying to leave well enough alone

        #24
        Well holy shit

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        Good to start treating this baby like a normal veg plant now more or less?
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        • Toker1
          Toker1 commented
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          Nice work! ... now you need to get her established (unless you are growing in deep water culture) What is your growing medium? Soil? Coco?

        • ocgreen
          ocgreen commented
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          I suppose I'll go coco with these guys. Will need to figure out how to get it going from here. Thinking coco in a solo cup under same light... with a cut open pop bottle over top of it so it has a makeshift dome. Sound about right?

        • SoOrbudgal
          SoOrbudgal commented
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          Ya did it way to grow ocgreen

        #25
        DingusKhan Tbats what she said haha thatโ€™s funny. But that was fast. Now a good watering with some hydrated kelp meal and or some alfalfa meal tea and watch her explode in vegetative growth.

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          #26
          Might have screwed these up. Got excited and moved them into some light nute coco in a solo cup not under dome. Two hours later they are droopy to the point of looking dead. Now I have them back in the dome lol

          But at least I'm getting closer regardless. First time making roots ๐Ÿ™
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          • SoOrbudgal
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            How are they looking now ocgreen?

          #27
          Hmmm.... what was that?.... About 4 days?

          & no she is not ready to be treated like a grownup. She isnt stable yet, mine just spent her 1st full night without a dome last night.
          Last edited by JDU; 12-22-2019, 11:54 PM.

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          • ocgreen
            ocgreen commented
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            The ones showing roots are the 4-5 I had in there before this. So they are maybe closer to 11-12 days. Not entirely sure.

            But I have a lot more faith the others on day 5 will come in time.

          #28
          Thatโ€™s why I said some kelp meal. Helps her with stress and helps her get strong for her juvenile stages.Today Nebulas weekly email talks a bit about Kelp, only problem is she is recommending liquid kelp extract or powder. Itโ€™s my understanding that by that point a lot of the benefits of kelp have been stripped out. There are good quality extracts make sure itโ€™s cold pressed at the very least not sure about the powder though. Kelp meal is the ticket start by having it in your soil then top dress and water it in. Or 1 tablespoon per gallon of water of hydrated kelp meal and your good to go.

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          • ocgreen
            ocgreen commented
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            Thanks for the tip. I will need to find some of this. For now I fed with some 1g/gal mega crop water

          • DingusKhan
            DingusKhan commented
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            Superthrive is mostly kelp, if you can't find a specific kelp product.

          #29
          How're they doin? @ ocgreen

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            #30
            Hey everyone thanks for checking in.

            Just transplanted 4 from solo cups to 7 gal air pots under 80w lm301b this morning and took this pic just now! ๐Ÿฅณ
            At least another 6 in another area in solo cups

            Couldn't have done this without everyone's help.

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            Only problem now is I didnt label which ones are gorilla zkittle and which ones are mokums tulip but time will tell

            Looking back, I think the biggest mistake I was making was not having enough or any moisture in bottom of tray.
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            • JDU
              JDU commented
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              It really IS addicting!!! I can hardly look at a plant anymore without noticing potential cuttings!!! & good job @ ocgreen ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ They look great.
              Last edited by JDU; 01-03-2020, 08:24 PM.

            • DingusKhan
              DingusKhan commented
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              Beautiful job, will make you a nice little SOG.

            • ocgreen
              ocgreen commented
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              Thanks again guys. Been having a tough time personally last few months and this community (and gardening in general) is a nice escape/support

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