Lower temps during flowering??

[Greenpassion]

I'm confused about the issue of temps, specifically that I'm growing autos along with photoperiods( they're staying in veg while in the 18/6 room) But if I keep the room cooler when my autos are in flower, like 75f, is that too cool for my photos that are in the veg stage?

[Toker1]

75 is all good

[GreenhouseEffect]

Ya, 75 is great for plants in vedge. A good rule of thumb, is that conditions that are comfortable for you, are also good for cannabis plants, they like about the same temperatures as humans.

[Greenpassion]

Excellent news. And this leads me to my next question or problem I should say. I'm going to be harvesting my first harvest of my autos (6 plants) on Sunday. And I thought I was going to be able to hang them in the dormer window space that I have these plants growing in, but it's kind of warm in there and over 80 degrees sometimes in that area. Can I hang these in temps close to or over 80 degrees? Not sure what to do this first grow that I'm going to harvest on Sunday.

[Toker1]

At 80 your will be losing flavor. Try to follow this guide as closely as possible.

http://www.a1b2c3.com/Marijuana-How-To-Manicure-Cure-Dry-001.html

[alltatup]

Greenpassion, Better to keep drying branches a little cooler.

Optimal Drying Environment:
Room Temperature – Around 70°F (21°C)
50% Humidity

Optimal Environment in Jars (Curing):
Room Temperature – Around 70°F (21°C)
58-65% Humidity

https://www.growweedeasy.com/drying-curing

[Greenpassion]

Yes. I ordered them last night and they will be here by Saturday. I'm also getting that other thing that the tutorial suggest I can't think of what they're called but they go and each jar and keep the humidity in the jar at 62%. Going to get some champagne for Sunday! The first harvest of hopefully many!

[Toker1]

I flip the hygrometer so that the display is facing the bottom of the jar. Then the weed goes on top. This way I just check the undersides of the jar for RH readings and don’t have to open my jar every check.

[Greenpassion]

That sounds like a good idea☺

[GreenhouseEffect]

Boveda Humidy packs.
That's a good idea Toker!
Basement sounds WAY better! You can hang and cure at those high temps, but it cooks off both Terpenes and THC. If your humidity ends up higher than optimal, cut off more leaves and stem, so the weed drys a little faster, when the humidity is low, leave more stem, and even a couple fan leaves to slow things down. Hanging results in nicer looking buds, and is preferable, at least in my opinion.

[Greenpassion]

GreenhouseEffect, I was planning on trimming before I hang them.@shotgun, I'm going to check out that idea of putting them in brown paper bags. I'd like to know the science behind it. What was your experience with the brown paper bags? So you dried and cured at the same time?

[Toker1]

Brown paper bags sweat the buds to promote more even drying. If the bud we like to smoke dries faster than the stem in the center of, it can leave an unpleasant smell/taste during the jarring process. Unless you can nail the dry time/temp/humidity perfectly, you really should use a paper bag to sweat the buds a bit.
I also like to save a bit of stem after harvest in the fridge. Just in case I over dry. You can really save yourself by putting it back in the jar with some overdried stuff. Just don’t leave it in the jar too long or the unpleasant smell comes in to play.
Boveda packs work well, but I found the RH in the jar needs to be at the same RH of the pack. I used a 62% pack to bring down some fresh cut that was still too wet and final bud flavor really suffered. I found it was best to bring the buds to 62% or less before I stuck the 62% packs in the jars.

[Greenpassion]

So how do you do it? You cut down the Plant and put branches inside brown paper bags? And does the outside temp or humidity have anything to do with it? Is there anyone that can explain to me about this brown paper bag method?

[Chefbjy]

I've never done paper bags. I have sweet sticky dense buds because of my light and how I cared for my plants. I should give it a try, I'm interested to hear the responses 😉.

[Toker1]

Drying and Curing Marijuana

Drying and curing Marijuana is a 3 step and the last process in growing marijuana in order to smoke it without damaging your lungs and getting the best taste out of your buds

Drying Marijuana

Drying marijuana buds generally takes from 2- 6 weeks and curing marijuana can take 2 weeks up to 2 or more months. Drying time also depends on where you live and the place you dry them. Places in a desert would dry them faster, and tropical places would take longer

The first step after harvesting your marijuana buds is the drying possess. This can be performed by taking the branches and hanging them up side down so the fan leaves droop and cover the buds. During this step you need to put the branches in a cool dark place (not humid) with enough ventilation. It is good idea to check up on the buds every day to watch for signs of mold and mildew and correct the problem if it happens. After the fan leaves droop down over the flowers and turn crisp or break off easily, you would want to start trimming off the fan leaves only. Even a better way to take off the leaves is to do it before drying the marijuana buds because it it will be much harder to cut off the fan leaves after the buds have dried. So, I recommend you to cut them off before you hang the marijuana branches upside down.

The deal with this method is to dry it slowly but not to fast. If you dry your buds too fast it will make your buds smell like pine needles, hay, or taste bad. Drying the buds too slow in this first step is not a good idea ether because of mold and mildew will attack them. It's very important there's enough air circulation in the room so you can't do it without an electric driven fan.

After the fan leaves are trimmed you want to hang it up to dry again because the marijuana buds will still be moist or wet. They should still have the little inner leaves so they can droop and cover the buds . Hang the branches again in a cool dark place with proper ventilation until the little leaves and bud tips turn crisp when you touch them. It is then time to remove the buds from the branch and remove the rest of the leaf material as best as possible. This is what is referred to as "manicuring" of marijuana buds. But as said before it's better if you do this before you hang them to dry.

At this point the buds should be a little moist, including the inside of them. Some can be smokeable at this point, but if you wait till the next 2 processes you can get even better smelling and tasting buds

Bagging the Marijuana Buds

After the marijuana buds are trimmed (and a little moist still) you would want to dry them some more in the paper bag step. The best choice would be the brown shopping bags found at a supermarkets, because they are not bleached (the stuff you don't want in your buds) This is another tricky step. Put the trimmed marijuana buds in the brown bag loosely and its best not to fill it more than 3-4 inches from the bottom. It is not necessary at this time to close the bag ( still need to prevent mildew and mold) When the buds are in the bag you would want to check every day to rotate the buds in the bag so they dry evenly. This can be achieved by shifting positions of the marijuana buds, turning them ever so often, or shaking the bag. As the buds dry they will naturally compact into the self-preserving state that is mostly desired . At this time that the buds can be more compacted together and the bag can be folded close. They should now be fully smokable, though perhaps still ! slightly moist in the middle. A big reminder that every climate differs and may take more or less time. There is nothing better than repeated, hands-on checking to prevent damage to the marijuana buds from mold and mildew.

Curing the Marijuana Buds

The last step is to create a way to bring out the full flavor and best smoke from the marijuana buds. This can be done by using an air tight jar or similar. Put the dried buds into the jar loosely (do not compact them) and cover them. It is very important in the early jar-stage to check the buds at least once a day to replace the air, take them out(this helps dry evenly) and put them back in a different order. This should be done for 7 to10 days then it can be done lest often. After 7 days all you need to do is open the jar and check the buds on a daily basis for mold and mildew. If mold and mildew is found in this step. Take the buds with mold or mildew out of the batch (throw away) and put the rest back in a brown bag for a few more days then the jar step can be repeated . this step can take from 2 weeks to 2 months depending on how you want you buds to develop its distinctive characteristics. The longer the better

A bud is completely dry, cured, and ready for consumption when the stem in the middle of the bud snaps easily with the fingers. The snap is easy to detect with practice. The marijuana buds now can be sealed and stored for a really long period of time.

[D.A.A.S.69]

I dry my buds in my house, the temps are 70 degrees an the humidity very close to 50percent.
I trim leaves first, then put golf ball size buds in brown grocery store bags with the top folded over . Usually about 8buds a bag.
I don't ever unfold them, to look at them , they can breathe thru the bags.
I've done it enough to know in these conditions ,it's gonna be 6days before they are close enough to 62-64percent to go in the jars, then after in jars ,I burp the jars a couple of times for a week or two.And that's it. You can keep the jars closed then.
If it's 50percent where you dry ,it's gonna take 5days plus 1day, 6days total.
If it's 60percent humidity where you dry ,it's gonna take 6days plus 1day, or 7days to dry.
40percent it's gonna take 4days plus 1day, or 5days.
This is in brown paper grocery bags, hanging dries quicker, you want a slow dry, like in paper bags.
We used to hang dry ,but no more, paper bags from now on.
They are gonna feel over dry when you touch them, but when you put them in jars ,the humidity will go up to 64-66percent, you burp the rest out ,until you get to 62percent, or however you like yours.
Cardboard boxes even work, you just don't want the buds touching each other, takes the same amount of time though.
Thats just how we do it, we've tried many ways over the years, and I'm sure that there is many more ways to dry. But Brown bags are the best ,for keeping your smell, and stickyness.

[Toker1]

The time when you store then remove the buds from the jar (because they are too wet still) is called sweating the buds. This does the same thing a brown paper bag does. Only, you can get the mold faster and easier in a jar if not paying close attention. As daas said the brown paper bag is breathable. In my experience it’s a bit more forgiving than sweating it out in the jar. All in all, if done right will end the same way. Tasty dank that maximizes potency and flavor profile.

[D.A.A.S.69]

Chefbjy, your way sounds like I would work fine., good luck with it. Too many steps for me.lol, but if you like it, you like it.
I just cut my buds an put them in bags for 6days, then in jars, that get burped 2-3 times a day, for a minute or two.
We smoking some that's been in jars over 3years, and they still are sticky as hell, and smell great. Some of our jars ain't been opened in months, and still killer.
Never,ever had a problem with mold.
Thanks again Chefbjy.
Have a nice mellow Sunday, ole bud.

[Greenpassion]

I think I'm going to try it your way D.A.A.S.69. But I think this first go-round I'll just hang them. I need to get used to all this. And also I'm chicken LOL

[Greenpassion]

A couple days ago I started noticing that the leaves are getting super yellow on the ones that I'm believing are ready to harvest. And they've gotten yellow or by the day. One of them has red tinges in the yellow on the leaves. Is this light burn? If I screwed up the whole first harvest? I think they look like shit.

[Chefbjy]

Can't get a real good view with the lighting. But yellowing this late is very normal. I like to pull the yellow leaves off as it ripens, saves some work on trimming 😉. I just give them a slight tug, if they don't come off easy I leave them be. It will lose all those pretty leaves. Just be mindful of the sugar leaves. For pretty buds you don't want yellow sugar leaves.

[D.A.A.S.69]

Greenpassion, i can't see sh-t either, with your lights on.
Sounds normal to me, you shouldn't even have to flush, if all your using is water an molasses, ain't nothin to flush. Good Luck

[Greenpassion]

I should have posted that here with the photos. This is one of six that I'm thinking I should Harvest today. As you can see it's foxtailing really bad but the buds underneath the ones that are putting out new white pistils all have orange brown hairs on them. I've moved the light away., but I'm not really sure what to do as far as harvesting it.

[D.A.A.S.69]

They ain't gonna hurt a thing, but that plant looks ready to me, them white hairs is coming out of foxtails ain't they, and all the others are red.. If you can't see the trichs, I'd say that plant is ready.

[Greenpassion]

Okay then. I will start cutting them down around 3:34 today. I think I'm going to try to just get used to the whole drying curing process by hanging them this first time around. Next time around I'll try the paper bag method. That should be coming up in about 6 weeks.

[kingfish]

Hi Greenpassion, here is how I dry and cure mine. I cut my girls down one cola at the time. Trim all the leaves off to the point where I put them in the jar. Then I hang the colas up side down on a line I strung up in a storeroom in the basement where the temp stays between 50 and 60 degrees this time of year. About 25-30% RH. About a week to 10 days when I can break the small stems and bend but not break the fat stem, I cut the buds of the stems and put them in jars. I burp the jars once or twice per week for about 2 weeks and then leave them alone 'till I open the jar to smoke the stuff.

[kingfish]

Exactly

[Greenpassion]

I'm going to hang these in my basement and the humidity right now is about 40%. The temperature is right around 70. If I can keep those conditions that way how long do you think they'll be hanging? I was going to cut branches off and hang branches.

[kingfish]

Normally mine takes a week to 10 days. I also have a fan blowing air around. Not directed on the buds. Just to move the air. Prevent mold to settle. You say branches, I say colas. Are we talking about the same thing? Look at my current grow. "Started new grow" There are pics. of what I'm talking about.