Thanks sheesh I try my best and love doing it and I do check after adding anything plus drainage is good and I think that I'm doing decently will on letting it dry out I mean every once in awhile I guess before I head to work I'll Water even if it feels a little cool to the touch but I don't think it's anything to extreme plus if I'm really concerned I'll get my finger down there pretty deep after all the mentions about gnats I'm definitely going to start investigating that I'm going to go try to find the yellow cards that you're talking about .I t think I'm due for a run off check so I'll be doing that in a couple hours if it needs water today and as nakedGardner mentioned my run off is lower when I do a 7 check it's usually a 6.3- 6.5 but I'm pretty sure I'll be trying and not my PH down a bit .... how long would y'all say a plant can last without being too stressed completely dry?
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Soil grows can dry out a bit before any damage is done. Try the weight method by lifting the pots once or twice a day and wait until they are light. You will know the difference after lifting the wet pots. When they are dry you can feel a huge difference. they feel light as a feather, then it's time to water. Good Luck.
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OK so I caught the runoff on all 4 just now I watered them with 6 -6.1 ppm with calmag runoff was 5.3-5.8 avg around a 5.5 I was rushing but that's pretty much what I've come up with what do you guys think? I watered with 6 because you guys thinking I might have been keeping it too high looking forward to some feedback.
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Sounds good, still would shoot for 6.5 pH. If you use a @ sign and the persons name calibonbon it will tag them.
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calibonbon. Yeh the run off seems low but maybe you should aim for a ph level of 6.5 when you add water or feed. I think you’re just a bit low as Mr.furley says. Also great advice earlier adding more soil and earth worm casting etc for the one outdoors.. I got your private message thanks and I hope this answers your question.
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OK I got yall for the most part but my question is if ive been watering around 7 for a while and my pH is still low won't it just drop even more if I start watering with lower pH and what is the rule when checking run off say I'm checking with 6.5 what should it be coming out as? And if it's to low shouldn't I just water with a higher ph? Sorry if I'm being redundant. Mr.furley NAKEDGARDENER
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I see your issue. I wasn’t remembering you had been adding in at 7 ph. I assume that is with feed?
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You want your in out number to be close if not the same. If you are dropping from 6.5 to 5.5 your roots zone is off and your plant/pot/medium needs to be corrected, this can be accomplished two ways. 1) FLUSH! Seeing that you have depleted your soil and are now feeding nutrients (btw, never got the mil. Per gallon of the trio your are giving) give your pot a good ph water till it comes out at the desired pH. This will also take care of lockout and salt buildup. 2) you can add slightly higher ph'ed water and over time it should change.
I would opt for #1. Should take 2 to 3 gal. Of water per pot, and if you do decide to flush do it in one setting.
Speaking of depleted soil and if you flush and you don't plan on top dressing, plan on feeding it liquid fertilizers, you should feed it like a coco grow.
At that point PH should be around 6.-6.3 and you will need to water to 10% runoff (around 1.25gals per 5gal pot).
If it was my plant I would ph the next feeding at 6.5, see were the runoff has come, if the plant has improved then Yea!. if the plant is deteriorating between this water and next, not improving may just consider a flush nexts.
Hope this helps.
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@mrfurley my feeding for the first month or so of flower has been fox farm 3tsp big bloom 2 tsp grow big 2tsp tiger every other water so about once every 3 to 6days depending on how quick they would dry (a gallon or just under a whole gallon per 5 galpot) then continue to follow the schedule b4 when I was having bether results on my first couple crops I was giving like a half a gallon per 5 gal pot almost every day and feeding every other water at half strenght of what Im doing on these but the strain was blue cheese and when you say coco I'm trying g to recall what I've herd about that am I correct that that is a feed every water thing?
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Soil grow work best watering with little to no runoff at 6.-7 ph when the pot is dry. Coco grow work best as a feed and strip( water/flush) with 10-20% runoff. Ph'ed from 5.5 to 6.5 when pot is dry.
Some people water everyday I've never had good luck with it, and the under lying cause of your problem is watering practices. Watering like soil (7.0ph little to no runoff and no flushing) with a Coco/hydro,( I Target 6.3 in) Liquid Fertilizer, you also changed your watering practices from last grow to this has not helped, to be honest 7.0 is on the top end of the soil pH chart.
I really think you've got lockout my friend due to poor pH and your plans are starving.
You should feed them to the end of harvest in a feed and strip fashion water to 20% run off, Newt till pots heavy 10% runoff and repeat. And I think you should flush with 6.3 to 6.5 water till your runoff reads 6.3.Last edited by Mr.furley; 09-04-2018, 08:14 AM.
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Thank you Mr.furley I'm going to do what you recommend tbh I've just about lost hope with this crop it was such a pain b4 doing it every day I had no idea I would totally screw myself changing it up how I did ..... do you consider happy frog a true soIL? because I'm thinking of going back to my 50/50 mix with the ocean forest and stepping my amount of water down on my next 2 I throw in there .but I'm very grateful that you have taken so much time out to help me though I think we finally broke through to my problems I've been having and it would not have happen with out you I don't know if I got what it takes to save these but I'm finally hopefull about my next crop again thanks so much again
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You are very welcome calibonbon and it is my pleasure to help.
Remember all hope is not lost, they are really resilient plants and bounce back from a lot. My Philosophy is some buds are better than no buds so with all the hard work you've put into the grow, see it through.
Couple parting comments for you.
if you want to continue using soil look into www.kindsoil.com
And if you are preferring to go with a more Hands-On water feed think about Coco perlite mix. I use coco! I do not have the time to maintain my plants daily and find Coco easy to use with great results.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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