Best bang for your Buck$ for new growers wanting to find the best cheap lights lol

[freddyyola]

this will be more like a trial run or a learners curve i know i wont get everything right the first time and i know ill still be learning as long as im still growing

[freddyyola]

what about led's are the watts from the wall the true wattage you would try to do the math and = 1 gram per watt and yes i understand thats like if all goes right kinda situation.. im really a broke ass closet grower right now hopefully ill have lights by flower time which thats my call pretty much right? i been making my own nutes and stuff since thats the cheapest way and knf forean natural farming shows you how to grow fruits and veggies all natural but with great yields and quality basically shows you how to make the stuff that goes into bottled nutes..

[Chefbjy]

DrPhoton knows his shit about lights and many other things.

[Weed Pharma]

Take a look at the Viparspectra PAR 1200 dimmable, for you size grow. They are a great option at a reasonable price point.

Also, be mindful if you are buying from eBay- It's a good idea to buy from the manufacturer, as others may be selling underperforming LED's the company culled.
I have seen tests where the other seller's LED performed with 1/2 the amout of par- when compared to those bought through the manufacturer.

[DankwingDuck]

To answer your question 1.5-2sf per plant is good . You will have to look up ideal coverage area for a 1000w whatever your planning to use and then determine from there .

[DankwingDuck]

Amount of plants don’t determine amount of harvest always . If you grow it and train it right . 1 plant can produce the same yield and 10 . I have seen some monster plants with 30+ colas . You have to decide what you wanna grow and then grow it to fill you space .

[IslandColas]

You could not have said it any better! 👏🏻

[IslandColas]

i guess i have a 4x4ish grow area i plan trying to get some going out side and a few inside that way i can get free light from the sun but its risky for me i do wanna have a light or lights that can handle at least 4 good sized plants does a hps really get 1 watt per gram? also if i had lights i can grow year round.. do you guys got a youtube or a grow journal?

1 gram a watt is your goal. As a new grower it will be difficult for you to achieve those yields. Not saying it can’t be done, you’ll just have to do your research and spend LOTS of time with your ladies. Training them and getting your cycle down to a schedule. You should see 1 gram a watt as your goal not as the benchmark.

I run a perpetual harvest and take advantage of year round harvesting using lights and indoor controlled environments. You can do the very same with the proper equipment.

Im full hydro. My system is listed below. If you have any questions please feel free to ask.

[freddyyola]

i just went through all your pics and stuff ojh alotta nice stuff going on over there! man in total i got 48 seeds from somewhere and man they were trash pretty much all of em were duds and stunted crap only a few came out good as in i got 4 good plants going and few seedlings and few stunted crap my dumb ass dropped a light dead on to my best plant and snapped it and the one day i didnt check on them till 8 hours apart while im not asleep.. one is looking really dry and crispy on the fan leaves like its been drying up but idk how anyways hopefully i dont lose anymore plants cause barely enough got going i cant believe so many seeds were crap but then again i guess i can since they were all the freebies now that the season is to late for outside i have to wait to get lights and i cant afford more seeds and lights and all the stuff that comes along with a basic grow.. better start saving and getting piee by pieec though! why do you have so many beans ojh is that over the years or do you get free beans from like a sponsor

[DrPhoton]

The best value light technology is gas discharge, commercial horticulture companies know this and is the main reason why most commercial indoor facilities are still gas discharge. LED technology is still some time away from being able to regenerate investments over rational timeframes. LED products such as california lightworks, spectrum king, fluence, nextlight, and black dog that provide comparable performance to sodium discharge, require a substantial investment that take years to recover the initial costs.

Evetually LED will superseed all lighting solutions but that time is still a few years or more away. I will myself, knowing lighting technology and plant science. Will continue using gas discharge, until LED has reached a stage of practical and economical value.

[IslandColas]

Amen brotha

[IslandColas]

With really high quality LEDs I find you don’t save THAT much energy. They still draw high watts which is what you’re billed on. You may be able to cut 400w off your usage but that’s only an average of around 28$ a month in energy costs. Unless you’re planning on being a pro running perpetual harvests and always running those lights just stick to HPS To get started cheap. They won’t pay for themselves any time soon

[freddyyola]

i guess i have a 4x4ish grow area i plan trying to get some going out side and a few inside that way i can get free light from the sun but its risky for me i do wanna have a light or lights that can handle at least 4 good sized plants does a hps really get 1 watt per gram? also if i had lights i can grow year round.. do you guys got a youtube or a grow journal?

[freddyyola]

thanks for the tips and links guys ima check em out, what i mean by best bang for your buck is since the price gets better as the higher wattage goes or the more you are trying to buy is there a certain light i should be aiming towards getting and then just upgrade to more later and yeah 53 bucks for 300w led is cheap but does it really get 300w led yields? and do you know how much they yield? and same thing i was thinking about the viparspectra they have good prices but i was wondering if they were not worth it or too far on the cheap side to be any quality.

[freddyyola]

i dont want anything cheap really ill save up for a good 1000 watt set up whats the max plants you think i can squeeze under that and still have hefty size