Best bang for your Buck$ for new growers wanting to find the best cheap lights lol

[freddyyola]

the way my closet is set up i have a window unit ac right on the otherside of the my closet wall and when i have the door open it it bascally catches the air coming from my window unit im sure with the door open and ac going also i have a box fan in there to blow on the plants and keep a breeze flowing for good circulation of cool air also.. i think i can handle it and my closet is temporary once i get closer to flowering ima get a more permanent place set up.. bigger room to work with.. also does cmh bulbs work in an hps/mh ballast as long as the wattage can match up? like can a 400-1000 watt ballast take an 315 watt cmh you guys are so helpful thanks so much!

[DankwingDuck]

I have a 600 hps and it doesn’t put off that much heat . You will have to play with it a little bit but my tent stays at 79-82 currently. I do have a vent and inline fan pulling air through it tho .

[IslandColas]

Example of a tube reflector
iPower 600 Watt HPS MH Digital Dimmable Grow Light System Kits Cool Tube Reflector Set Add-on Wing https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008H15WFM..._7jLhBbZZ6770N

[IslandColas]

freddyyola yeah I agree talk him down best you can. Good you did the research on what product he was trying to sell. You’re going to need to remember 600w HPS bulbs put off a lot of heat so you’ll need a way to keep good air circulation to keep your air temps below 85 degrees Fahrenheit. If you’re doing hydro I’ll always mention you need water to be 65-70 degrees Fahrenheit. Get a chiller useless info but I feel like I’m constantly spewing it lol if you’re growing in a closet don’t do anything over 600w unless you have a way to air cool that baby. 600w is still going to get HOT. If you’re growing in a tent there’s no two ifs about it you’ll need an air cooled reflector. Tube air cooled reflectors are optimal for heat removal.

[IslandColas]

Good choice IMO

[D.A.A.S.69]

A CMH, is the best, if you ask me.

[freddyyola]

this is what i messaged him...

im from fl and would love to to see if we could work something i could come to you! 2514442066 or i guess email is fine.. i see you ost is a month old and also that you want 125 each and right now they are on amazon brand new free shipping for 110.57$ including 2 new bulbs wihch i have no problem buying used but i have to replace the bulbs and im hoping you can give me a discount used price... looking forward to hear from you!

depending on what he offers ima try to get em for 80 a piece or maybe less lol ima tell him i dont want his used bulbs to knock the price down but whats he gonna do with the bulbs if i end buying the rest he might just give em to me anyway, that way i can start using them and they came with 2 bulbs each i dont think hes used em all or much but i will get a few new bulbs since there is no way to test them right?

[freddyyola]

https://www.amazon.com/iPower-Digita...0_&dpSrc=srchi think i found a guy on craigslist wanting 350 for all or 125 each and the post is a month old also i honestly dont think indoor growing is big in my area ima talk him down as much as possible.250 or less is what im aiming for and he says barely used either way with new bulbs i think this will be a good set up i can afford and can yield a good bit..

[IslandColas]

Well said DrPhoton thank you for the clarification on LEDs. I was almost positive it was iffy and could not really explain. The reason I told him his goal should be drawn watts is more for the cost side of his grow. If he’s unable to at least achieve gram amounts that are equivalent to his true drawn wattag than he may as well be using a sodium discharge light that’s tried and true and also has the measurable science behind it.

[freddyyola]

ok ima see if i can find a nice set up for a 1000 watt hps set up and go from there for now...

[DrPhoton]

Gram per watt is exclusive for sodium discharge, it is thrown out the door with LED as the efficiency varies with products. As such the growers efficiency cannot be measured.

[IslandColas]

With LEDs it’s kinda an iffy situation. Make your goal true drawn watts and then go from there. If you’re a broke closet grower than you can’t afford cheap. Lol figure of speech of course. Go with traditional lighting or cfls. If you want to gamble you may be able to find an led that will outperform your cfls but I’d honestly push you to a 400-600w traditional HPS. They’re cheap. Brand new for 200 or less (that includes ballast, hood, and bulb) or you can even find a setup on CL That is half that price. Just make sure you use a fresh bulb to make sure you’re getting full output.

[freddyyola]

right now im bringing them out in the morning and in before sundown to get the full 18/6 but i been kinda lazy and figure it wont make much difference in the first few weeks from seeds

[freddyyola]

whats better marshydro or vipar or is it preference.. and i will look into cmh and hps... i think i have an hps light hanging from my shed but how do i check? its a big ass light bulb and it takes a few secs to power on and its the blue ish light spectrum its in this wierd hood kinda thing but i dont think thats the ballast.. its a really powerful light though and it was most likely repurposed as to dont look like you ordinary flood light or shed light ill take a pic of it tomorrow if i can use it itll be added to the lights i can use and the more the merrier lol at least easier on my pockets till i can get more quality going which if i can get lights i wont have to wait til spring to grow again

[freddyyola]

thanks bro will keep that in mind! and will go check that light out now do you know whats the max yield watt per gram this light could produce if all was to go right and i know strains differ but can you ball park it or like an avg... like how hps = 1 gram per watt if optimal