Howdy meatpupet21, what do you mean by "pre=sex starts"? are you referring to determining the sex of a seed? I my knowledge, there is not a wat to determine the sex of a seed before germinating it. If you do not have access to a genetics lab that can check for the gender of the plant (from a sample of the coledon leaf), one must wait until about 1 to 1 1/2 weeks after the 12/12 light switch, when the preflowers will show the sex of the plant.