Infernal closet, please help!

[Nihilezah]

Hi people!


I’m a neophyte grower, and i really need help i believe… please! I have been reading allot but i cant figure whats wrong.



I recently moved at the lands end in a little country and cant get weed as i used to in the city. So i tough i could grow some myself! Well thats not as easy as it looks like! Long story short, I had those seeds from an unknown strain that I found in my weed bag a year ago, I was pretty mad back then cause seeds taste real bad… but i kept a dozen, you know, in case.



2 months ago, i planted those seeds in jiffy pellet out of witch around 8 growned. But im really bad with plants and only 3 survived… when they were about 3 inch tall, i transplanted in a mix of about 70% standard gardening soil and 30% vermiculite to witch i added a bit of transplanting stuff and bone meals (i heard bone meal was magic for root system)



This is where is lost most of my little green babies (the smallest one had a really bad time, but it managed to survive and is now the healthy one, ironically)



So they were laying on the side of the window for all this time, getting slowly bigger but always looked fine (just a little too tall and not large enough but eh!). But i couldn't grow them there for ever, so i build a grow cabinet, this is where things went really bad!



I had put 4x 40w CFL 4100k 2650 lumen each (600w worth of light) and 2 T8 tubes 17w 6500k 1275 lumens each. Distance about 3 inches from leafs.



I was, at first, really proud of my cabinet, looked really good. But 2 hours only after i put my seedlings in there, the medium one was almost dead with all curly leafs drooping witch are now dried -see pictures (its the one that really look bad)- the temperature in the closet back then was awful about 40c (100f) So i went and bought a bathroom fan 50 cfm to evacuate heating, i did a second opening in the bottom and added a fan outside to get fresh air.





Then i had humidity problem, dropped down to 20%… so i went and bought an humidifier, but it is not raising humidity much and it is inconstant, it keeps moving from 30% to max 55% , plus it does allot of heating and takes much space.



So now ive tried moving stuff around, I removed the 40w CFL since they seemed to be the source of heat and switched to 4x 23w CFL 6500k 1650 lumen plus the same 2x t8 tubes but moved everything farther, around 8 to 10 inches from leafs.





During cold days like today, temperature plays between 20c and 25c in the cabinet, during hot sunny days, from 26c to 30c.



Questions are-:

- Is my soil okay?

- will my plants survive the stress they had?

- Is it enough light? (and close enough)

- My biggest plant seems to have over watering symptoms, do you believe that heating or water is the mistake?



- How can i raise lighting and humidity without increasing heating? (and stabilize heat/humid)

- what the f* is the problem with my setup!?






Thanks in advance, any advice is appreciated! and sorry for the long text (plus, note that english is not my mother thongue so sorry for broken english)

[Canuck147]

Nihilezah Welcome to this forum - your setup looks real good - Lighting looks good - If those plants are over 2 months old and they were mine, then I'm sorry to say it, I would trash them and start over. Just my opinion. Others have theirs and I'm sure we'll hear them. Which is good. You choose who you want to listen to.
Sounds like you can afford a few options.
In that case you should buy yourself some feminized autoflowering seeds. By buying good quality seeds you get to replicate them and smoke topshelf shit. I say this because the autoflowering strains are very easy to grow for a newbie. Not only that, but you can harvest most strains in around 90 days. 30 odd days later you are smoking your results.
Good luck - do what is best for your situation.

[GreenArmadillo]

All i'm gonna say is you can maybe get away with higher temperatures if you are growing a pure sativa.
I'm lucky my bagseed turned out to be pure sativa, and so my babies can withstand higher temperatures. Unfortunately though, now that it is summer my temperatures are hitting 30 degrees during peak heat, which is a red line! Something needs to be done.

So I bought a portable AC. I'm still trying to figure out how to set it up the best to benefit my grow room.
Research your AC options bro. See what can work for you. Window AC? Split AC? Portable AC?

Or you have another option, which is cheaper and I think suits you more. You want to raise humidity, don't you?
In that case you can buy an evaporative cooler (swamp cooler, air cooler). It has more than one name.
This brings down temperatures and raises humidity at the same time.
It does this by evaporating water and using it to cool the air that the unit blows out.
This also happens to be cheaper than ACs.


Best of luck my friend. Keep growing!

[9fingerleafs]

i agree completely, i have the same temps, last year i lost 7 indicas to the heat outdoors and just one sativa remained, not worth it, indoors the only way for me to grow is in the closet inside my room, where i have a split AC that has to be ON all the time at 24º and the hottest part of the closet gets around 27º, if i even turn off the fan blowing the ac air to them it gets over 30º in minutes. i think what im saying is... get a good AC. one that can cool down the entire room at a comfortable temperature all the time, not having to turn it on super cold for a while and then off till the temp gets high again is the best for your plants