Cannibas quality

[insomniaczzz]

My wife and I returned recently from a Colorado weedcation". "

Very cool! I love the Kush Tourism website. Gives you all the ins and outs and best places to go, hotel and restaurant recommendations, etc for states that are recreational legal. That's how we found our D.C. guy on craigslist. Through that website.

[insomniaczzz]

I take two vicodin a day. One when I get up and one when I go to bed. I get the creepy crawly restless leg syndrome. When I had those lollipops we bought in D.C. I did not need the vicodin at night. Sucked on a lolly for about 10 minutes while laying in bed reading or playing on computer. Legs calmed down and I sleep like a baby.

[dontknownuttin]

My wife and I returned recently from a Colorado weedcation". "

[insomniaczzz]

I can't say that the opiates make us zombies, but there are people out there really addicted and take well above any doctor recommend dosage. Some are so desperate, they see multiple doctors a month to get multiple scripts, always changing pharmacies. They eventually get caught, but by then their addition level is so high. Of course when my husband started it 6 or 7 years ago, the side effects and addiction level where not a known issue.

[insomniaczzz]

Yeah, they love opiates because it turns people into soulless zombies that are willing shell out hundreds of dollars a month to maintain their addiction.

Im getting all fired up now. I need my meds....

Fortunately our health insurance carrier covers some of the cost for opiates. Others are not so lucky. With insurance hubby pays $107 out of pocket for quantity 90, dosage 40mg oxicontin. When he was on 80's our cost was around $170. No insurance, around $900. I take a low dose vicodin, generic hydrocodone. with insurance I pay $22 for 90. No insurance, about $180 I think.

[insomniaczzz]

I would imagine that once it's totally legal, you will see shops set up like most liquor / beer stores with bottom, mid, and top shelf products organized by strains and manufacturers / labels.

A valid point that I hadn't though of. You are probably right.

[Royal Nugs]

Pharmaceutical companies have so much power over our government. Billions of dollars being made selling opiate medications. Hell, they want the American people to stay dependent on those meds. They know that marijuana will kill the opiate industry. THEY are the ones putting up the biggest fight. THEY are the ones forcing opiate users to test for marijuana in their systems. Patients are stuck between a rock and a hard place. It's a lose / lose situation.

Yeah, they love opiates because it turns people into soulless zombies that are willing shell out hundreds of dollars a month to maintain their addiction.

Im getting all fired up now. I need my meds....

[Royal Nugs]

It seems to me that once the govt is involved the dispensaries will have such high operating cost that they will be forced to crank out the buds no matter the quality just to stay profitable.

I feel this is true, to an extent.

By the time corporations delve into the cannabis industry, I think most of the country will have already established legalization/decriminalization. Competition will already be fierce and by them entering the fold it will force growers for profit to streamline and maximize efficiency with their processes.

A gram per watt will become the norm, if not below average. Evolve or die is the capitalist way.

My my predictions are historically short lived and riddled with inconsistency so please read with great skepticism.

[insomniaczzz]

Hang on to your hats the states that don't have it yet. My state has closed the dispensaries and moved it to the recreational with medical people not paying the high excise tax. When big brother steps in it all goes to hell. Quality is not here I see an underground movement because MONEY is being made. I'm not sold the fed's will ever except this and I don't trust them at all.

With Medical being forced on us but pharmaceutical companies oh I mean our government , it's a mess.

Pharmaceutical companies have so much power over our government. Billions of dollars being made selling opiate medications. Hell, they want the American people to stay dependent on those meds. They know that marijuana will kill the opiate industry. THEY are the ones putting up the biggest fight. THEY are the ones forcing opiate users to test for marijuana in their systems. Patients are stuck between a rock and a hard place. It's a lose / lose situation.

[Budlofsky's Dinner]

I can see it being set up similar to the state liquor stores, except having the bulk of the supply from within state. That makes sense to me due ti the millin dollars needed to get a licence for medical. That inicates to me there might have been actual forethought when creating the medical use law and why there was blockage of letting the bill move forward in PA. I'm still suprised it passed given the people in PA that lost their shit when alcohol became legal to sell on Sunday.

[Royal Nugs]

I would imagine that once it's totally legal, you will see shops set up like most liquor / beer stores with bottom, mid, and top shelf products organized by strains and manufacturers / labels.

Agreed. Additionally, I heard an interesting tidbit on one of my podcasts.

Did you ever notice there is no chain liquor stores? I was told this is because prohibition and the potential of another prohibition scared corporations away from focusing on liquor retail. This is why there will probably never be corporate store fronts. They will more likely play a role in manufacturing and distribution.

[Karlee]

Hang on to your hats the states that don't have it yet. My state has closed the dispensaries and moved it to the recreational with medical people not paying the high excise tax. When big brother steps in it all goes to hell. Quality is not here I see an underground movement because MONEY is being made. I'm not sold the fed's will ever except this and I don't trust them at all.

With Medical being forced on us but pharmaceutical companies oh I mean our government , it's a mess.

[insomniaczzz]

Here in Arizona we have Prop 205 up for vote (recreational use). I have a medical card and can get my med. any time at the store. Most though do not have a card for their own reasons I guess. Anyway even if 205 passes it will not be implemented until 2018. The government said they need 2 years to "put everything in place" ( and keep some in prison I suspect). I am keeping my medical card even if 205 passes just to cover my backside. If 205 passes and goes into effect, We will be able to grow 6 plants per adult at home in a secure area out of sight. Max. plants per home 12. All adults can have 1 ounce on them for personal use, and none must be sold. I guess it could be a start anyway.

To me, That sounds like reasonable limitations for recreational use.

[dontknownuttin]

Here in Arizona we have Prop 205 up for vote (recreational use). I have a medical card and can get my med. any time at the store. Most though do not have a card for their own reasons I guess. Anyway even if 205 passes it will not be implemented until 2018. The government said they need 2 years to "put everything in place" ( and keep some in prison I suspect). I am keeping my medical card even if 205 passes just to cover my backside. If 205 passes and goes into effect, We will be able to grow 6 plants per adult at home in a secure area out of sight. Max. plants per home 12. All adults can have 1 ounce on them for personal use, and none must be sold. I guess it could be a start anyway.

[insomniaczzz]

It seems to me that once the govt is involved the dispensaries will have such high operating cost that they will be forced to crank out the buds no matter the quality just to stay profitable.

This is what I fear here in PA. Medical passed in April. 18 to 24 month projection before anyone with be making a purchase. I was looking at the Costs to apply for a dispensary license. Basically a million dollar capital needed. I just hope my husband lives to see the day.