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[Hazyn740]

would these work better for sprouts? So then should i turn my big light back on veg setting then and turn those back off or move these sprout lights closer and wait on the bigger light till ive transplanted i just turned all my lights on and moved the sprout lights up outta their range but same height as big light just to supplement it i guess. keeping eye on them just ordered two fans also would it be beneficial to just put them in their 3gal fabric pots so they have better environment or just let them tough it out in these solos with no drainage or air flow for couple more weeks. These are about 2 weeks old

[SoOrbudgal]

This is why this site does not recommend using those lights for " sprouts " totally wasted light money. All sprouts need is some CFL 4" above them. Beware when they do begin to grow roots deeper they are going to be reaching upward for more light which will cause those stalks to fall over from the weight of the top of plant. Sorry man

[Hazyn740]

I turned big light off and just using two smaller veg lights but it did say they put out 254ppfd at 4" from plant.. I have these at 18" from plant but you said baby them so thats what i thought would help. Big light brings temp up to 83 by itself it gets up to 89 with all of them running. 78 with just these two seedling lights. Now the water doesnt dry up as fast plus i removed as much crap as i could using foxfarm soil to replace and help stand the one sprout that fell over up and also did same to healthy one and watered afterwards and my smaller one really looks happy now the bigger one looks like its starting to grow another section of leaves even tho it fell over and was damping off. The leaves are still droopy in it as you can see in pic its the closest sprout but soil still shows lil water.. Cant water it so just leave it be right? Should i move these lights closer? And as always im grateful for your guys help no matter how its given the soil did look bad i admit.. Thank you so much

[Puglover1]

Stake it, tie it, zip ties, whatever if you want it to succeed. That soil still looks dry, the chunky stuff. It's not composted yet.

[Puglover1]

All I can say is that I'd water them fully, no domes, and I'm not sure of your light's distance. But put some finer soil like M-G or something else on top, after removing some of the chunky outdoor soil. You have sprouted seeds, new plants wanting to grow, you must help them.

[Puglover1]

If you add a finer soil on top you could help that seedling stand up plus the buried stem should grow roots to help. Too much chunky in there for solo cups.

[Hazyn740]

Above is the plant i found drooping from thirst. Top left is plant that just fell over out of nowhere. Top right plant is one that shriveled up outside one day but didnt die and just never got much better besides dots on stem are gone but hasnt died yet and stays dry shriveled looking no matter how much water its getting



Below is my set up in closet also the smaller lights are off cause my other sprout looked like some one spun it in a circle for hrs leaves hanging down crazy. Gave them all 2 caps of water last night then put sprout domes with vents over them and turn lights off for the night so water would get down in there.. Woke up and my biggest sprout looks like its undergoing damping off? One white spot on stem right at soil line like the other had before i put peroxide on it with a cotton swab and it went away that plant still hasnt shown any improvement other than its alive still barely.. This one i propped with toothpick like you said cause it fell all the way over.. Stem isnt broken yet.. Just got my fox farm soil today but tbh.. These plants already having been contaminated im afraid even if one does survive i dont wanna waste 3 gal of good soil and even all my other money and time i put into this i might just scrap this and try to do my BCN Critical auto, sour diesel auto, and gorilla glue auto seeds right this time im gettin germ cubes and everything so it can just grow in a perfect medium.. Ugh pray for these guys im gonna need all your advice i can to save even one of their lives

[Hazyn740]

I litterally WUNG a grow with miracle grow soil at that with its bad rep and with seed i found in my smoke over the years and didnt have nowhere near this many problems

[Hazyn740]

I did that and now look my biggest one just fell over.. I swear this soil had fungus in it its killed everything im an idiot for digging after a rain and having such damp outside soil with root chunks and shit from bushes outback i completely screwed this i guarentee they all die no matter what i do thats just my luck

[Puglover1]

You should water near the new sprouts in a circle but also do another circle of water about an inch farther outward. You need to get enough water toward the sides and bottoms for the roots to follow the water to grow outward and downward. Some people might use a .5 liter water bottle, I have a very small watering can with a long metal spout that I use for seedlings, it doesn't disrupt the soil. I didn't water daily. If your soil mix isn't totally 'mixed' I'd pull out those chunks of sticks or anything not decomposed, be better to use Miracle Gro organics for the seedlings than that (I know you had other plans, stuff happens). Personally, I'd get these healthy and growing larger before transplanting. Yes, you can remove what you can and add more soil, but don't have foliage touching the soil. As the plant grows taller you will lose a few leaves, makes room for more good soil. Those look like they're growing in a desert, no offense. In pictures here they all look like they need a through soak until a little run off. If you have drainage holes and some air circulation I wouldn't worry about getting them fully watered, just be gentle.

[Hazyn740]

Also i water them a water bottle cap full in morning and at night is that not enough i was afraid of drowning them since theyre so small

[Hazyn740]

So i can add soil to the cups covering the stems and itll what moove the stem and leaves up making more room for roots? I was worried i didnt fill the cups high enough

[Puglover1]

They look dry, thirsty, maybe try removing some of the chunks from the top of your soil. And add a little something better, something finer but they look very dry in the pics. The green ones I wouldn't mess with other than removing the 'outside' soil and watering them, I wouldn't transplant those yet if it were me, I'd try to better the soil and baby them for a while, let them grow roots and grow more veg, you can slowly top dress with better soil. The others don't look so great. Maybe prop them up with a toothpick. Ya never know. Good luck.

[Puglover1]

I would also remove what's dead and laying atop your soil in the bags. Nice plants, a couple are getting pretty tall. I hope this is your worst hiccup!

[BeeGinner]

I would say it could be heat stress. try turning your light down if you can or move it further away. or it could be a nutrient deficiency. as for pests, I use fly strips. try 5.5 for a PH. Get some Microbes too. try one thing at a time so you can see what works and what doesnt. hope I helped out. Take Care!