Beyond Ordinary, A Journey With Rare Genetics

[Dhyan]

Hello, fellow growers! I’m excited to share my experiences with an exceptional lineup of cannabis genetics that go beyond the ordinary.

I’ve been immersed in cultivating some truly unique genetics, and I’m eager to share what makes them special. I’ll be posting photos and information soon to highlight their stunning quality and beauty and why I love them so much. Working with these strains has transformed my approach to cultivation, showing me what’s possible when genetics are crafted with care. Growing these strains has been an inspiring experience into the artistry of premium genetics. If you’re as captivated by unique and top-tier cannabis as I am, you can follow along as I add to this thread from time to time. Please be patient. I'm sure I will be coming back here to reference this material and it will serve as a journal for me, so I would like for it to be mindfully constructed. To keep it from being unnecessarily cluttered, if there is something I left out, you can send me a message and I’d be delighted to discuss these plants in more detail.


To begin, I may as well start with Kerala Gold which is from a genetic line collected in the late 1960s as it was the most recent which was harvested about 2 weeks ago.






Kerala is confirmed by by Small and Cronquist in 1976, and by McPartland and Small 2020 publications. Listed only as psychoactive type.

Mid flowering:






Preflowers forming:






In the next post I will add some more information and my commentary.

[dirtymike]

Blast from the past eh......... what are the THC levels. Kum ba ya

[Dhyan]

Blast from the past eh......... what are the THC levels. Kum ba ya

THC is 18-22% with a strong and euphoric high. Has an amazing, pleasant smell of floral and candy aromas in the jar.

A big plant with a large yield. It can be grown indoors if its given the proper space it needs. I tried putting 2 females that were sent into flowering as early as possible (fully adult about 24 inches tall) in a 3 x 3 tent with trellis and it was quickly overcrowded, leading to potential serious problems.
Mid flower picture with still 5 weeks to go:


(No room to breathe)

3 x 3 is do-able for one plant although it is not ideal. In a 3 x 3 the plant needs to be flowered early as possible and training will be required. 2 plants need at least 5 x 5 with a lot of air circulation or preferably larger space entirely. Headroom is important.

A blast from the past is right. This is the holy sativa of enlightenment! It has always been a spiritual weed. A cannabis genotype that goes back thousands of years, but I will get into the history in the upcoming posts.

[dirtymike]

Im sure you will but leave my two brothers out of it. Roll the dice, tables hot.

[Rwise]

Reads like a sales pitch,

[DabberDog]

I'm with you Rwise . That was my first curiosity. But who's selling? It's seed size information, bud porn, and two of the dirtiest hippies I've ever seen. No offense, Dirtymike. Maybe a dope nerd?
Whatever is going on here, we're talking landrace. Mmm... landrace...

[dirtymike]

I shower daily and sometime with help but im still dirtymike

[Dhyan]

Reads like a sales pitch,

While on the surface to many readers your comment may seem low effort and with a disgruntled tone, but let's look deeper. I see its subtle meanings and that it does bring value to the topic. It is inevitable that we have to distinguish between truly unique kinds of cannabis (qualitative), and the ordinary commercial product readily available anyone can order by filling out an online form (quantitaive). It is important. I hear you Rwise!

When looking at cannabis the first thing people are likely to come across is the ordinary commercial offerings, and this market hinges on heavily marketing, campaigns, psychological manipulation, and hype. Many are quickly and subconsciously conditioned to chase the next hyped up strain, and to buy dead-end genetics unfit for more than a one-time-use disposable seeds which is creating dependency on the seller so that the customers are locked into repeat purchasing for each grow. Its ugly, I know. It's not ecologically friendly either. But that is really only the tip of the iceberg. People are subjected to deception, misrepresentation of goods, unethical business practices, and even straight up lies when it comes to people selling to the mass market. Market trends are bottle necking cannabis into an ever narrowed genetic soup of hybridization. The prices keep going up, and the quality gets worse.

Let's face it, the commercial genetics are the fast food of cannabis. Convenient on the surface, but lacking substance.

Yes, this comment leads us to a valuable aspect. What is ordinary or mediocre, and what is high quality. Instead of writing a book here on the state of cannabis genetics in the commercial market, time can be saved by looking at the facts. There has been some recent studies on commercial cannabis, and I will post the study here so we all can see the science. (See PDF file) Following that there is a video which breaks everything down which will help others who may have difficulty with the reading the publication. Also I can include a super short article, which touches on a few of the main points, so there is something for everyone.

Comparison_of_the_Cannabinoid_and_Terpene_Profiles .pdf (see attached file)

video breakdown: https://youtu.be/KnBkWQr1rtc

Short article:

https://www.colorado.edu/today/2022/05/19/whats-your-weed-label-doesnt-tell-you-much-study-suggests

And here is a commentary on the study if you like that better: https://youtu.be/odDxvjCPGto

Feel free to write about aspects of this amongst yourselves as you wish. Im happy that it inspires engagement.

So that I'm not pulled in many different directions at once, i will be in the meantime trying to assemble some information historical or my subjective commentary about Kerala that may be worth adding. I will be talking about other high quality cannabis too, from true breeding strains, F1 hybrids, and high tech hybrids. I will be growing a Sour Alien cross later this year which will be super interesting. But I have to start somewhere, and since I just got done dry trimming Kerala, it seemed right to start there. I'm not here to offer these types of genetics to be up for grabs to any random person, to the general public for obvious reasons. Its never been that way, and I'm just here to put up the information to those who are interested in this stuff.

[Rwise]

I did say "reads like" not spam, which I would have flagged.

[DabberDog]

I read where you wrote that. And you would. I know you would. Flag it like a streaker at a football game.

[Dhyan]

I'm with you Rwise . That was my first curiosity. But who's selling? It's seed size information, bud porn, and two of the dirtiest hippies I've ever seen. No offense, Dirtymike. Maybe a dope nerd?
Whatever is going on here, we're talking landrace. Mmm... landrace...

Ha! You hit it exactly. It's just love of cannabis!

[DabberDog]

Landraces are what marijuana is supposed to be. Hybrids are what people want marijuana to be.

Whilst I am a fan of landraces, I understand the benefits and goodnesses that come from the strains people have come up with. I am not a connoisseur of dope. It smells nice and gets me high. I am not as tuned into the nuances people look for. Smoking pot tastes and smells nasty. It smells nice in the jar, but once flame is put to it, it's nasty. I'm an extract guy. No biomass for me, thank you very much!
My thing with landraces is that they are simple. In the deepest parts of my soul, I don't care about how many forward and backward and hokey pokey's my dope has had, except I deeply dig the effort and joy people put into their work. If I could do it, I would for fun, sharing, and free seeds. As the title of your second article indicates, don't believe everything you read. That's how I feel about reading lineages and terp profiles on my jars of live resin.
One thing I didn't pick up on in the seed size chart is what sort of seeds are being looked at. I'm talking THC vs CBD. I have recently gotten some CBD heavy seeds that are the smallest I've seen. Maybe half the size of the THC heavy ones I am used to.
And here's where I get to be a dick about the info: What's the point? Nice porn. Landraces are the diggity. But what's the point of comparing seed sizes?

If you're just here to be a dope nerd, right on and I fully support you and your big dope brain! You'll meet a few more.

[Drphil69]

Love this! More please!

[Dhyan]

Landraces are what marijuana is supposed to be. Hybrids are what people what marijuana to be.

Whilst I am a fan of landraces, I understand the benefits and goodnesses that come from the strains people have come up with.

I think I understand what you want to communicate. But let's simplify it to make it more brought out.

Let's say ancient primordial cannabis untouched by mans influence is what cannabis is naturally. I think this is what you mean. But when it is said as, "Landraces are what marijuanna is supposed to be.", then I think there is some "ideal" cannabis implied, formed as a thought. Not what is, but what should be.

Anyway, Landraces have been tended too and subject to selection from mankind for many thousands of years. There is evidence of that fact. We could say this is an affected version of primordial cannabis. The farmers plant next year what was good and worked, as selection. Although their abilities were greater than this, it's a start for understanding how these old landraces came to be what they are. Selected, stabile lines. And the intent for them was more than just a good feeling. Medicines, to connect with the divine, to use as a source of food, oil, fibers, cannabis wood and stems to to burn on a cold night. A way to honor the dead as chronicaled by the historian Herodotus.



(Is anyone interested in that? Should I include some history?)

Various real world things ancient people were dealing with. It was used to dissolve the ego in some cultures, to give bravery before battle. The plant is highly adaptable, and it's a reservoir for what intent man puts into it, be it medicine, spirituality, whatever.

Many things that modern people are largely disconnected from. Aggravating factors like the drug war, have erased a lot from peoples minds and culture about a plant we evolved with right beside us. And the modern world is pretty damn artificial. What is the intent of commercial breeding practices which is putting what ? into the reservoir or vessel of cannabis? Money, greed, convenience....Mostly not all. I know there is an circle outside that circle, exceptions to the rule. I like these exceptions. Weed with real distinct characteristics shaped over thousands of years as my human heritage. But also the capabilities and art that goes into modern masterpieces. That's some high tech weed, genetically tested to dial in traits or smells quicker with looking at the results of lab tests and genetic testing. I tend to think of it as cannabis has a potential, and in the potential of the plant, through selection we can enhance what we want. Like select for and increase THCV, content, or a special flavor. If the intent is very narrow, like only short flowering time, short plant, high THC, then the energy goes there, taking energy from the other aspects. Sometimes to where they are just no longer really inside. It's a way to empty it of things, and bring up others. Like a trade off. So there is good things people have done for sure.

Keep in mind, this is just my thoughts. It's nothing to agree or disagree with. I find other peoples experiences and stories helpful and interesting. People vary, and I'm cool with that.

[Dhyan]

One thing I didn't pick up on in the seed size chart is what sort of seeds are being looked at. I'm talking THC vs CBD. I have recently gotten some CBD heavy seeds that are the smallest I've seen. Maybe half the size of the THC heavy ones I am used to.
And here's where I get to be a dick about the info: What's the point? Nice porn. Landraces are the diggity. But what's the point of comparing seed sizes?

If you're just here to be a dope nerd, right on and I fully support you and your big dope brain! You'll meet a few more.

Nah yeah, if you get a magnifying glass and look at the plot chart with the circles and plots, on the right is a legend to decipher the shapes around the chart. Like a secret decoder ring. It's not at all meaningful except the easy way I can drop my blue marker on a graph. I use it for comparison later. The circles are inaccurate, there are many exceptions, but the graph is reused from a larger seed study as a starting point. It's just convenient for me. The publications, they are used to confirm further with other peoples publication data. If things match up, that is roughly a good sign there is no change or no error. Confirmation really. Nothing strong or important. A way of logging identification data. Seed size can correspond to certain things, but there are plenty of outcasts, outlaws, special cases. Nothing is definitive. For example wild cannabis has very tiny seeds. Usually. Haha. Always apply the uncertainty because it's always there.

I crossed a Kerala female with 2 different distinct males. Completely different stabile genotype males from shorter wide leafed drug plants. So I compared the resulting 2 sets of F1-hybrid seeds to the 3 parental lines. What can this information tell us?

Is anyone interested in this?

[dirtymike]

Been tokin and growin since tricky dick fuera de paz y la droga es droga.

[ductwizard]

my head hurts

[Pyrokill]

Nice seeds, you should check out the !!!free seeds!!!!! thread if you had a few extra................your plants look awesome. Keep the dope knowledge coming. I like all angles of how we all grow differently and search for traits from different plants. We are all different but sort of the same.

[golfnrl]

What an interesting thread. I have a couple of questions. Is English your first language? Pardon my skepticism, are you AI?

Now that that is out of the way, I am interested in landrace cannabis. Someone in this thread opined that landrace seeds sprouted and grown outside of their native area are then not landrace plants. That makes sense to me. Your thoughts?

Do I understand your goal is to use landrace cultivars to create your own strain and breed into the plants the different characteristics you desire, while maintaining quality genetics?

Where does Kerala Gold come from? If I missed the reference above please forgive me.

Where does one buy landrace cannabis seeds? I've visited a web site or two and see pictures, plants, and read wonderful descriptions but wonder if they are real. Not that I am skeptical or anything.