First Time Grower - overcoming mistakes

[TomDaDon90]

Or can I keep it under my led light 12hr for until June 1st?
Could I ???
Just because the weather will be a lot nicer outside.
If I buy it tomorrow ?

[Bluey]

I've already answered this question and explained what the problem with this approach is.

[TomDaDon90]

I have the black pot is a 2 gallon and Cinderella 99 inside of it. And the blue pot is a Hollywood OG and I think is a 1 gallon or 1.5 gallon pot.
I made mistake on buying way to small of pot.
I didn't realize until they were flowering.
How much you think I will get.?
And I did not top them or lat. So I'm focusing on the 9 main colas there Are...

[TomDaDon90]

Today is there 10th day on flower .
And they went through about 35 days of veg..
They are only 22" tall.
When I turned them on 12/12hr they were 18", so they only got 4" taller in about 10 days . Im thinking it's because how small they pots I put them in are. I'm expecting to get I hope 4grams off each cola or more. In 7 to 8 weeks. Or more maybe. Idk I'm using 100 Watt Vivosun led light.
I should bought spider 1000.
But I did not research as much about marijuana or lights at the time.
So I'm all new to this. And I'm learning as I go.
My next grow will be phenomenal.!

[Bluey]

Keep reading the GWE website.

[TomDaDon90]

The Gwe website will tell me how much bud I will harvest lol ?

[Bluey]

But that's not something anybody can really answer. The website will give you an idea of the range you can expect from different setups and veg time. There in lies the answers

[TomDaDon90]

I mean Im hoping a ounce from each ☘️.!
I'm not sure tho

[TomDaDon90]

Cinderella 99 Left & Hollywood OG Right.
They are today 15th Day of flower.
They only got to be about both 24" tall.
But do they look good?
Thanks

[Wayzee]

Did you end up giving them a undercut?

[TomDaDon90]

Yeah, Wayzee does this look good enough?
I did the best I could without top or LST them. So and grew them only for like a month on Veg . So I don't expect much. Today is 15th on Flower. So I hope they get 3x as big I might get 2 ozs from each.
But yeah they doing good so far. This my first time.
Next I'm buying One clone or auto and growing it for 90plus days on 20hrs light a day, and top and LST my next flower I choose. With a Vivosun grow tent. So it'll be a lot more fun. But I'm learning a lot as I go. This my first indoor grow. So wish me Luck.

[Wayzee]

Yea that looks heaps better man. Are you able to download a ppfd meter app on your phone? Could you possibly get your light a bit closer to the canopy?

[TomDaDon90]

Yeah I can always get the light closer to the flowers. I did download a ppfd meter. And on one flower it's like 1100 and other like about 1200. And the led light is exactly 12" from the flowers. Can I put it any closer?

[Bluey]

That's a very inaccurate reading. You haven't calibrated your phone like you should do.
At the very most that light cannot do more than 900PPFD at 12 inches but more likely 800PPFD. I could look it up for you but that's something you need to learn to do.

[TomDaDon90]

I actually raised the stand 6" with bricks I bought at Lowe's.
Thinking they were going get bigger.
But I totally messed up by not putting on big enough Pot, and I did not Top it or Lst them. So I was very un-educated when I started them out of the blue.
My next run will be in a Vivosun tent and a feminized photo-period from seed I'm going to. So 20hr light for like 90 days maybe 75 days and see how big One can be under the 100W Vivo light I'm using now. Just so I can get the hours out of it. I will have it on a timer next run.

But these two Flowers right here will be done between July 5th and July 12th. So then I'll be planning on my next run around then.
And in mean time learning how to grow them from seeds now and more about growing a bigger flower my next run.
So I'm learning.!

[ductwizard]

sorry to butt in tom, everything i'm reading is saying 18/6 lighting i don't know if the extra 2 hrs. is gonna help. i,m pretty sure if you go thru the website you'll find the info on this

[Wayzee]

Wowzer I wouldn't have guessed that ppfd. If that's accurate then I wouldn't bring it closer. I think you will have a great run next time round with a tent set up and better light reflection and all the research you're doing although it can be quite conflicting at times, that where you may have to work out what works best for you...
Photo periods will give you more time and forgiveness to have a play with training and topping. I usually only top twice with my indoors ( top it after 4-5 nodes let the new tops ( plural) grow out a couple more nodes and top/tip again)and outdoors I repeat this step up to 6 times.

Pass the dooby to the left hand side.

[TomDaDon90]

I did not know I could top two times.
So I can top twice, after the 2nd node after the 6th node.
That's cool. I didn't even know. Yeah I'm talking with my Mom about my next setup. I'll be starting in August. And she's up for me to do it in her dining room. So all me and Mom will have do is water them.
So I'm hoping my next flower will yield a lot bigger and better.
I'm wondering how do you grow medical marijuana?
I can't find anywhere to how to grow Medical Marijuana. Which I smoke Medical Marijuana because I have a medical card here in Michigan.
But yeah do you know how to do that?
Because that marijuana is the Best.
medical is way better than Recreational.

[TomDaDon90]

Yeah and my ppfd readings are correct.
I have a pretty good phone.
So I'm Glad I'm doing everything Good so far.
And I just googled how to top twice marijuana plant. And it showed me. So cool.

[TomDaDon90]

Ductwizard - I thought you could and supposed to do 20hr light because this one guy on Reddit did it like that. And it worked.
But yeah I'll do 18/6 hr. Thanks for that, I still have a lot of reading to do!

[ductwizard]

read what wayzee says at 7;37 also i think you said you wanted to top after the 2nd node and 6th i think after the 2nd node is to early and the person who told you this was talking about the 2nd round of topping. you should re-read it

[Wayzee]

Hopefully this sketch makes sense...
And as for 18-6 .. 20-4.... 24-0 this is one of those conflicting things I was talking about. Someone who does 20-4 will swear that their way is the best but others on 18-6 will disagree.
My thinking is plants do stuff in the dark so they need at least a couple of hours in complete darkness each day.

[Rootsruler]

The way it was explained to me was that during lights on photosynthesis is the plants main function. In photosynthesis the plant uses light and water to create ATP and NADPH which allows the plant to synthesize carbohydrates. Carbohydrate synthesis is a product of the aformentioned chemicals and CO2. At lights off the plant stops photosynthesizing and begins to distribute the energy it made during photosynthesis so that when the lights come back on it has the energy close enough to access to continue photo and carbohydrate synthesis uninterrupted. Energy/Food distribution happens when lights are on also as the plant requires but its main function is photosynthesis.

[TomDaDon90]

That sketch you did makes perfect sense.
I know exactly how to do it now when I start.
Thanks for teaching me something new.
And that's how I get very Big buds...
I can't wait to try.
And I saved that sketch to my phone!

[Rootsruler]

Not quite. Some topping is good to induce more lateral branching but too much will spread out the energy too much and you'll get a lot of smaller buds. Not terrible if volume is your aim because at the end of the day more dry weight is a good thing but if you're trying to grow big, beautiful colas you want to try and limit some of your pruning techniques that will thin out energy access.

[Wayzee]

When you are looking for strains it should have if it a medical strain or not. I'd say something mainly indica with a couple of % of CBD would classify as medical.

I have diagnosed ADHD and PTSD* and find sativa dominants are better for my focus and mood.
*Not why I started smoking though, but it explains why I love it so much.