Help why are the leaves drooping

[Artstone]

I can’t figure out what’s going on. I was away on vacation came home. The plants look underwater so I watered but not much but enough that I would think there would be a response. All the leaves are droopy as if they’re either under or overwatered. I know there’s nute deficiency and I gave a heavy feeding two days ago after the watering I thought the leaves would’ve stopped drooping, but they don’t seem to have. I can’t figure out if they’re over or underwater or what and what I should do next.

[Rwise]

I see lock out due to PH issues, more info needed.

[Artstone]

I see lock out due to PH issues, more info needed.

Thanks for the reply,when I want on vacation I phd the water to 6.4 and set auto watering.
i checked the ph of the water when I returned and it was 6.2

when I watered 2 days ago I phd it at 6.6 to try and raise the ph.

do you have any suggestions or what other info do you need?

[dec0der]

I see Magnesium deficiency. When's the last time you gave cal-mag? Pick up your pots, are they heavy or light? Is your soil moist? How often do you water?

Tilt your pot, feel the bottom of your pots, are they soaked?

[Artstone]

I see Magnesium deficiency. When's the last time you gave cal-mag? Pick up your pots, are they heavy or light? Is your soil moist? How often do you water?

I just gave calmag 2 days ago, I’ve been using a soil tester that says soil is dry and watering based on that, but I dug my finger in about 2 in and it felt damp. I usually water every 3 days but had it on auto watering for last week when I was away

[dec0der]

I would let it dry out. You do have Magnesium deficiency by the looks of the leaves.

[Bluey]

Make sure the roots are fully draining and not sitting in any runoff.

Edit. It does look like the start of a calmag issue. Raise of pH should help with that.

[Artstone]

Make sure the roots are fully draining and not sitting in any runoff.

Edit. It does look like the start of a calmag issue. Raise of pH should help with that.

They ate in bags so shouldn’t that take care of run off?

[Bluey]

Not if they are sitting in catch dishes that catch the runoff. You want air touching the bottom of your pots/bags, not water.

[Artstone]

Thanks bluey, I have on plastic container tops, will change to something that keeps air under

[Bluey]

Prop them up a bit to clear the runoff will do.

[Bluey]

Actually closer inspection of the pics looks like that shouldn't be an issue.

Are you growing in soil?

[Artstone]

Actually closer inspection of the pics looks like that shouldn't be an issue.

Are you growing in soil?

Yes soil, will take a look later today and see how they doing.

thinking about flipping to flower , the longer I grow seems like the more chance that it goes down hill.

i took cloans , hopefully they will survive, they are day 5 now, I vegged for about 10 weeks ( due to vacation) and wanted to take cloans so maybe go to flower

[Bluey]

How much runoff are you giving them when you water them?

You said you setup auto watering? Was there much runoff then?

[Artstone]

How much runoff are you giving them when you water them?

You said you setup auto watering? Was there much runoff then?

I just watered 11 cups per plant, and in total got 10 cups run off. 3 gal bags

the auto watering was when I was away and just did enough to keep em alive, was worried about drowning them.

the run off from all combined was really low 5.7 ph, and I watered 6.7 ph

[Bluey]

There in lies your main problem.

Watering to runoff in soil grows washes the nitrates out of the soil and down the drain and if done enough times with enough runoff will cause yellowing of leaves and other symptoms of nutrient deficiency. Only runoff if you have a problem with your soil being too hot.

You could add a liquid nutrient to your water to help them recover. When using liquid nutes continuously runoff is required sometimes to flush out a possible salt build up. Not likely that will happen to you in soil.

Ignore the pH of the runoff. It is not a good indicator. In fabric pots water slowly to avoid runoff. I suspect they are overwatered but as you say they may be underwatered. If temps and RH are on point maybe every 4 or 5 days to water. Check your pots weight after a full water by lifting them gently to avoid root damage and check also before watering. You are looking for the pots to lose noticeable weight before watering again.

Select your nutes based on stage of growth. Use about half recommended.

[Artstone]

Thanks! Good news they look much better today, will try and digest what happened and post my thoughts later