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    #31
    Veg cupboards 0.8 EC all veg + 10ml Si to 2.5gal. pH 6.0. Still haven't added any calmag yet and they are doing fine without it, atm. Temps 23/24⁰C day 21.5⁰C night RH 65 to 68%.
    Flower Room: 11' x 7' x 7.5'H, 480w AC, 13gal/day dehumidifier, 1.5gal ultrasonic humidifier, 60gal (27gal usable) nute tank, 16" pedestal fan & 18" wall fan. Lighting and climate automated. Hand watering.
    Veg Cupboards: ​​​​​​Two 4x2x6H cupboards. SF2000 Evo in one SF7000 in other. Climate controlled and automated. Hand watering
    Aeroponics Low Pressure Bucket: 20W LED. 5 clones & 20W LED 11 clones
    Lights: Mars Hydro FC-E1200W, SF-7000, SF-2000 evo in flower room.
    Medium: Coco/perlite, 7.2gal pots, no drains
    Current Grow: ​​​5 x Photos Franklin's Orange Zkittles x Sour Diesel in flower room, 3 Franklin's White Widow x Sour Diesel Clones, 13 x Orange ZkittleZ x Sour Diesel clones in Aeroponics buckets x 2.
    Last Grow: A mix

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      #32
      So 22 days past the flip and I've taken two clones from the OZ xSD (black plugs) & three WW x SD in white plugs of course. Second and last clone run from this run, they are all in flower now.

      Cut them smaller this time and nicely located into the aeroponics bucket with a 100% success rate so far (5 of 5). These are in flower as you can see. 0.3 EC bloom nutes + 2ml Si into 1.5gal this time first up pH5.8 120 to 140PPFD. They will be here for about 10 weeks give or take. They are in the basement with the veg cupboards and it's also the dry room and lung room to the cupboards, and the cure room, so temps set around 22⁰C in the lung room of a day and 21⁰C of a night. RH varies 52% to about 58%.

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      and below the sativa hybrid last to flower but the supercropped mother was first to flower but slowest of the three developing buds. The lime green color is not present as shown in the first pic

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      Tiny discolouring on a lot of tips but that small I can't tell if it's new growth, nute burn or something else. It's not light burn. PPFD high 700s to peak of mid 800s. These are very healthy and rocketing along. EC 1.7 bloom + 10ml Si into 4¾gal pH 6.26 Temps 24.5 day 22 night RH 54 to 58%
      Last edited by Bluey; 05-27-2024, 12:35 PM.
      Flower Room: 11' x 7' x 7.5'H, 480w AC, 13gal/day dehumidifier, 1.5gal ultrasonic humidifier, 60gal (27gal usable) nute tank, 16" pedestal fan & 18" wall fan. Lighting and climate automated. Hand watering.
      Veg Cupboards: ​​​​​​Two 4x2x6H cupboards. SF2000 Evo in one SF7000 in other. Climate controlled and automated. Hand watering
      Aeroponics Low Pressure Bucket: 20W LED. 5 clones & 20W LED 11 clones
      Lights: Mars Hydro FC-E1200W, SF-7000, SF-2000 evo in flower room.
      Medium: Coco/perlite, 7.2gal pots, no drains
      Current Grow: ​​​5 x Photos Franklin's Orange Zkittles x Sour Diesel in flower room, 3 Franklin's White Widow x Sour Diesel Clones, 13 x Orange ZkittleZ x Sour Diesel clones in Aeroponics buckets x 2.
      Last Grow: A mix

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        #33
        So the clone in just coco started to brown off on the leaf tips and edges, the slowest grower and the smallest of the five.

        I put it down to a bit high nute EC and smallest root development when transplanted and no perlite in the mix that could have also contributed to overwatering.

        I mix my nutes for the veg cupboards about every 4 days, 2.5gal. 0.8 EC pH 6.0. Last mix 4 days ago.

        Stuck a new probe on the pH meter and while I was at it testing the aeroponics bucket I thought I'd test the veg cupboard nute bucket. Put the probe in and it went straight to 6.6 and rising. Shit!

        No idea why it's rising in that bucket. Fed all 5 veg cupboard plants with a fresh 5.8pH mix EC 0.8. Should get them back on track.

        Struggling to break the apial dominance on a couple of them and it's annoying me.
        Last edited by Bluey; 05-29-2024, 05:30 AM.
        Flower Room: 11' x 7' x 7.5'H, 480w AC, 13gal/day dehumidifier, 1.5gal ultrasonic humidifier, 60gal (27gal usable) nute tank, 16" pedestal fan & 18" wall fan. Lighting and climate automated. Hand watering.
        Veg Cupboards: ​​​​​​Two 4x2x6H cupboards. SF2000 Evo in one SF7000 in other. Climate controlled and automated. Hand watering
        Aeroponics Low Pressure Bucket: 20W LED. 5 clones & 20W LED 11 clones
        Lights: Mars Hydro FC-E1200W, SF-7000, SF-2000 evo in flower room.
        Medium: Coco/perlite, 7.2gal pots, no drains
        Current Grow: ​​​5 x Photos Franklin's Orange Zkittles x Sour Diesel in flower room, 3 Franklin's White Widow x Sour Diesel Clones, 13 x Orange ZkittleZ x Sour Diesel clones in Aeroponics buckets x 2.
        Last Grow: A mix

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        • No3odiesShad0w
          No3odiesShad0w commented
          Editing a comment
          what's the ph of the rainwater. It could be pollution it picks up from the air as it falls or it could be metals from drains. May not be any salts in the water to trigger the EC but there could be other stuff that make be causing some funkiness for some plants at some stages....like root development. For sure it beats treated water, but no water source is always 100% perfect either.

        • Bluey
          Bluey commented
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          Of course there is a minuscule amount of organic matter in it. Birds crap on my roof, leaves fall in gutters. But it's so minuscule it doesn't matter.

          I don't have the necessary equipment required to measure pH in rainwater but it is acidic like all rainwater, but not much. It actually favours using it to water cannabis in coco. There really isn't any pollutants in it to speak of but you have to use calmag with it when growing in coco and it's ideal pH range for feeding my girls is about 6.0 to 6.3 depending on the plants stage if growth.

          Of all available water types for watering plants rainwater is the number one choice because that's nature at work.

        • No3odiesShad0w
          No3odiesShad0w commented
          Editing a comment
          I see NYC outside my window....I don't trust the rain. nature or not, its toxic. But that's just where I live. If you live in the countryside, totally different kind of rain.

        #34
        Flower room

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        Bloom + 10ml Si to 4¼gal to 1.6 + 6ml CalMag to 1.7 EC. pH 6.22

        Lots of stretch on that back WW x SD. No more bright yellow spots on it. Mosaic pigment loss on its leaves ( maybe four ir five of them)may have spread a bit to another 2 or three leaves since first detected..not worried about it. It's not looking any worse than when it was first spotted which was a while ago.

        All plants look great.
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        Last edited by Bluey; 05-29-2024, 06:38 AM.
        Flower Room: 11' x 7' x 7.5'H, 480w AC, 13gal/day dehumidifier, 1.5gal ultrasonic humidifier, 60gal (27gal usable) nute tank, 16" pedestal fan & 18" wall fan. Lighting and climate automated. Hand watering.
        Veg Cupboards: ​​​​​​Two 4x2x6H cupboards. SF2000 Evo in one SF7000 in other. Climate controlled and automated. Hand watering
        Aeroponics Low Pressure Bucket: 20W LED. 5 clones & 20W LED 11 clones
        Lights: Mars Hydro FC-E1200W, SF-7000, SF-2000 evo in flower room.
        Medium: Coco/perlite, 7.2gal pots, no drains
        Current Grow: ​​​5 x Photos Franklin's Orange Zkittles x Sour Diesel in flower room, 3 Franklin's White Widow x Sour Diesel Clones, 13 x Orange ZkittleZ x Sour Diesel clones in Aeroponics buckets x 2.
        Last Grow: A mix

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          #35
          Clones have picked up nicely.

          Changed the light cycle to a 20/4 schedule and PPFD 90 to 120.

          The veg cupboard clones are a nightmare to train. The topping and pinching is not working....trying to even out the growth im failing. Glad I have 5 to go in the flower room as Im heading towards disaster. I haven't broken the dominance and new growth just keeps popping out the ends of one node...grrr.

          Any suggestions welcome.
          Flower Room: 11' x 7' x 7.5'H, 480w AC, 13gal/day dehumidifier, 1.5gal ultrasonic humidifier, 60gal (27gal usable) nute tank, 16" pedestal fan & 18" wall fan. Lighting and climate automated. Hand watering.
          Veg Cupboards: ​​​​​​Two 4x2x6H cupboards. SF2000 Evo in one SF7000 in other. Climate controlled and automated. Hand watering
          Aeroponics Low Pressure Bucket: 20W LED. 5 clones & 20W LED 11 clones
          Lights: Mars Hydro FC-E1200W, SF-7000, SF-2000 evo in flower room.
          Medium: Coco/perlite, 7.2gal pots, no drains
          Current Grow: ​​​5 x Photos Franklin's Orange Zkittles x Sour Diesel in flower room, 3 Franklin's White Widow x Sour Diesel Clones, 13 x Orange ZkittleZ x Sour Diesel clones in Aeroponics buckets x 2.
          Last Grow: A mix

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            #36
            Clone cupboard #1 in the basement 3 x OZxSD in coco/perlite 70/30
            Just showed the ladies who's da Boss.

            EC 0.8 pH 6+ish PPFD 400 to 500PPFD Temps 24/21 RH 60 to 67

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            Will trim what needs gone soon. I think I finally broke the apial dominance. These clones have zero symmetry now even though when I cut them from the mother I picked the best of the best symmetry and large and healthy.
            Flower Room: 11' x 7' x 7.5'H, 480w AC, 13gal/day dehumidifier, 1.5gal ultrasonic humidifier, 60gal (27gal usable) nute tank, 16" pedestal fan & 18" wall fan. Lighting and climate automated. Hand watering.
            Veg Cupboards: ​​​​​​Two 4x2x6H cupboards. SF2000 Evo in one SF7000 in other. Climate controlled and automated. Hand watering
            Aeroponics Low Pressure Bucket: 20W LED. 5 clones & 20W LED 11 clones
            Lights: Mars Hydro FC-E1200W, SF-7000, SF-2000 evo in flower room.
            Medium: Coco/perlite, 7.2gal pots, no drains
            Current Grow: ​​​5 x Photos Franklin's Orange Zkittles x Sour Diesel in flower room, 3 Franklin's White Widow x Sour Diesel Clones, 13 x Orange ZkittleZ x Sour Diesel clones in Aeroponics buckets x 2.
            Last Grow: A mix

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              #37
              Flower room day 25 from flip 24⁰C day 23⁰C night, EC 1.7 to all. Bit light on for the WWxSD below varying pH with ocassional calmag suppliment 6.1 to 6.3 EDIT. Have just increased EC with 8ml calmag into 2.5gal EC 1.8+ pH 6.26

              900+PPFD

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              Sativa hybrid below EC 1.7 is about right fir this one. PPFD low 800s to low 900s. Need to uncover lower buds

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              OZ x SDsupercropped mother. A few branches dying back and you can see why. Only small stuff though. This is now the slowest developing one.PPFD 700 to 850


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              Last edited by Bluey; 06-01-2024, 05:50 PM.
              Flower Room: 11' x 7' x 7.5'H, 480w AC, 13gal/day dehumidifier, 1.5gal ultrasonic humidifier, 60gal (27gal usable) nute tank, 16" pedestal fan & 18" wall fan. Lighting and climate automated. Hand watering.
              Veg Cupboards: ​​​​​​Two 4x2x6H cupboards. SF2000 Evo in one SF7000 in other. Climate controlled and automated. Hand watering
              Aeroponics Low Pressure Bucket: 20W LED. 5 clones & 20W LED 11 clones
              Lights: Mars Hydro FC-E1200W, SF-7000, SF-2000 evo in flower room.
              Medium: Coco/perlite, 7.2gal pots, no drains
              Current Grow: ​​​5 x Photos Franklin's Orange Zkittles x Sour Diesel in flower room, 3 Franklin's White Widow x Sour Diesel Clones, 13 x Orange ZkittleZ x Sour Diesel clones in Aeroponics buckets x 2.
              Last Grow: A mix

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                #38
                Clone cupboard #2 2 x OZxSD PPFD 450+

                First main training

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                Flower Room: 11' x 7' x 7.5'H, 480w AC, 13gal/day dehumidifier, 1.5gal ultrasonic humidifier, 60gal (27gal usable) nute tank, 16" pedestal fan & 18" wall fan. Lighting and climate automated. Hand watering.
                Veg Cupboards: ​​​​​​Two 4x2x6H cupboards. SF2000 Evo in one SF7000 in other. Climate controlled and automated. Hand watering
                Aeroponics Low Pressure Bucket: 20W LED. 5 clones & 20W LED 11 clones
                Lights: Mars Hydro FC-E1200W, SF-7000, SF-2000 evo in flower room.
                Medium: Coco/perlite, 7.2gal pots, no drains
                Current Grow: ​​​5 x Photos Franklin's Orange Zkittles x Sour Diesel in flower room, 3 Franklin's White Widow x Sour Diesel Clones, 13 x Orange ZkittleZ x Sour Diesel clones in Aeroponics buckets x 2.
                Last Grow: A mix

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                  #39
                  This is a bud top probably getting highest light readings across the three plants. It's 22" below the light and about a foot off centre. PPFD 1150 DLI 50. WW x SD. All three plants are starting to frost on the bud fans day 26 from flip which is nice to see. Temps 24⁰C RH 55% EC 1.9 pH 6.16

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                  Flower Room: 11' x 7' x 7.5'H, 480w AC, 13gal/day dehumidifier, 1.5gal ultrasonic humidifier, 60gal (27gal usable) nute tank, 16" pedestal fan & 18" wall fan. Lighting and climate automated. Hand watering.
                  Veg Cupboards: ​​​​​​Two 4x2x6H cupboards. SF2000 Evo in one SF7000 in other. Climate controlled and automated. Hand watering
                  Aeroponics Low Pressure Bucket: 20W LED. 5 clones & 20W LED 11 clones
                  Lights: Mars Hydro FC-E1200W, SF-7000, SF-2000 evo in flower room.
                  Medium: Coco/perlite, 7.2gal pots, no drains
                  Current Grow: ​​​5 x Photos Franklin's Orange Zkittles x Sour Diesel in flower room, 3 Franklin's White Widow x Sour Diesel Clones, 13 x Orange ZkittleZ x Sour Diesel clones in Aeroponics buckets x 2.
                  Last Grow: A mix

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                    #40
                    Going to gt smelly around there in a minute.

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                      #41
                      Flower room

                      Large (88 pint/day or 50ltr/day) dehumidifier into flower room and 18pint/day (10ltrs/day) dehumidifier back into the basement.

                      Messing around with the automation trying to keep temps at 24⁰C and RH in the 50 to 54% range. Ideally I will lower air temps down to 22⁰C in mid to late flower and try and keep RH in a range to give the room good healthy VPD numbers. This will require a 2nd larger AC.

                      ​​​​​WW x SD EC 1.9 7ml Si into 4gal bloom to 1.8 cal mag to 1.9 (5ml) pH 6 22

                      OZ x SD & Sativa hybrid EC 1.7 7ml Si into 4.¼ gal bloom only pH 6.22

                      Clone cupboards EC 0.9 veg with some calmag

                      The supercropped mother has lost another small branch and bud today...that's 3 or 4 in 5 or 6 days and about a month since supercropping...and I may lose more. Necrosis is moving along a couple of branches very slowly, it just can't supply the nutes & water it needs and there's nothing I can do about it. Although earliest to preflower bud size is half the other two non supercropped plants. Yields will be well down by the looks of it.
                      Flower Room: 11' x 7' x 7.5'H, 480w AC, 13gal/day dehumidifier, 1.5gal ultrasonic humidifier, 60gal (27gal usable) nute tank, 16" pedestal fan & 18" wall fan. Lighting and climate automated. Hand watering.
                      Veg Cupboards: ​​​​​​Two 4x2x6H cupboards. SF2000 Evo in one SF7000 in other. Climate controlled and automated. Hand watering
                      Aeroponics Low Pressure Bucket: 20W LED. 5 clones & 20W LED 11 clones
                      Lights: Mars Hydro FC-E1200W, SF-7000, SF-2000 evo in flower room.
                      Medium: Coco/perlite, 7.2gal pots, no drains
                      Current Grow: ​​​5 x Photos Franklin's Orange Zkittles x Sour Diesel in flower room, 3 Franklin's White Widow x Sour Diesel Clones, 13 x Orange ZkittleZ x Sour Diesel clones in Aeroponics buckets x 2.
                      Last Grow: A mix

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                        #42
                        Veg cupboards (clones) trying 20ml Si veg nutes EC 1.0pH 6.10 w/calmag 6ml to 2.5gal

                        Flower room VPD 1 to 1.25. Swinging a bit until I fine tune the automation more. Will tighten up as the grow progresses
                        Last edited by Bluey; 06-03-2024, 08:30 PM.
                        Flower Room: 11' x 7' x 7.5'H, 480w AC, 13gal/day dehumidifier, 1.5gal ultrasonic humidifier, 60gal (27gal usable) nute tank, 16" pedestal fan & 18" wall fan. Lighting and climate automated. Hand watering.
                        Veg Cupboards: ​​​​​​Two 4x2x6H cupboards. SF2000 Evo in one SF7000 in other. Climate controlled and automated. Hand watering
                        Aeroponics Low Pressure Bucket: 20W LED. 5 clones & 20W LED 11 clones
                        Lights: Mars Hydro FC-E1200W, SF-7000, SF-2000 evo in flower room.
                        Medium: Coco/perlite, 7.2gal pots, no drains
                        Current Grow: ​​​5 x Photos Franklin's Orange Zkittles x Sour Diesel in flower room, 3 Franklin's White Widow x Sour Diesel Clones, 13 x Orange ZkittleZ x Sour Diesel clones in Aeroponics buckets x 2.
                        Last Grow: A mix

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                          #43
                          Had to drop the EC of the WW x SD. Mixed it at 1.9 and checked on the girl this morning. Beginning of nute burn unmistakable and checked the tank EC 2.0 pH 6.22 so diluted it back to EC 1.7 same pH.

                          The mosaic pattern on her leaves has spread a little. Mosaic is not the right word for it.

                          It looks like something has spilled on the leaves & washed the green pigment around. It seems to start on the leaf edge. Mostly effecting new growth but a tiny bit on old growth. It's effecting maybe a total of a dozen leaves around the plant. Pretty certain it is not light temp or air movement related.

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                          Seen it before or lnow what is is?

                          Flower Room: 11' x 7' x 7.5'H, 480w AC, 13gal/day dehumidifier, 1.5gal ultrasonic humidifier, 60gal (27gal usable) nute tank, 16" pedestal fan & 18" wall fan. Lighting and climate automated. Hand watering.
                          Veg Cupboards: ​​​​​​Two 4x2x6H cupboards. SF2000 Evo in one SF7000 in other. Climate controlled and automated. Hand watering
                          Aeroponics Low Pressure Bucket: 20W LED. 5 clones & 20W LED 11 clones
                          Lights: Mars Hydro FC-E1200W, SF-7000, SF-2000 evo in flower room.
                          Medium: Coco/perlite, 7.2gal pots, no drains
                          Current Grow: ​​​5 x Photos Franklin's Orange Zkittles x Sour Diesel in flower room, 3 Franklin's White Widow x Sour Diesel Clones, 13 x Orange ZkittleZ x Sour Diesel clones in Aeroponics buckets x 2.
                          Last Grow: A mix

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                            #44
                            Day 28 from flip.

                            OZ x SD showing more die back. I will up the N a little on this next feed but I don't think I can stop this die back. Now effecting ¼ of the plant

                            Others doing well.

                            EC 1.7 pH 6.13 6ml Si + Bloom into 4¾gal

                            24⁰C 50% RH

                            PPFD highest bud just under 1200 on the WW x SD

                            The canopy around 850 to 950

                            Veg cupboards EC 0.9 25⁰C PPFD 450 to 500

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                            Attached Files
                            Last edited by Bluey; 06-05-2024, 01:19 PM.
                            Flower Room: 11' x 7' x 7.5'H, 480w AC, 13gal/day dehumidifier, 1.5gal ultrasonic humidifier, 60gal (27gal usable) nute tank, 16" pedestal fan & 18" wall fan. Lighting and climate automated. Hand watering.
                            Veg Cupboards: ​​​​​​Two 4x2x6H cupboards. SF2000 Evo in one SF7000 in other. Climate controlled and automated. Hand watering
                            Aeroponics Low Pressure Bucket: 20W LED. 5 clones & 20W LED 11 clones
                            Lights: Mars Hydro FC-E1200W, SF-7000, SF-2000 evo in flower room.
                            Medium: Coco/perlite, 7.2gal pots, no drains
                            Current Grow: ​​​5 x Photos Franklin's Orange Zkittles x Sour Diesel in flower room, 3 Franklin's White Widow x Sour Diesel Clones, 13 x Orange ZkittleZ x Sour Diesel clones in Aeroponics buckets x 2.
                            Last Grow: A mix

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                              #45
                              Day 29 from flip

                              Trimmed over a pound of fan leaves out of the canopy to open up light to bud sites and some fresh air for them.

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                              Replaced the blocked jets in the aeroponcs bucket. Clones now looking alive instead of dying.




                              Flower Room: 11' x 7' x 7.5'H, 480w AC, 13gal/day dehumidifier, 1.5gal ultrasonic humidifier, 60gal (27gal usable) nute tank, 16" pedestal fan & 18" wall fan. Lighting and climate automated. Hand watering.
                              Veg Cupboards: ​​​​​​Two 4x2x6H cupboards. SF2000 Evo in one SF7000 in other. Climate controlled and automated. Hand watering
                              Aeroponics Low Pressure Bucket: 20W LED. 5 clones & 20W LED 11 clones
                              Lights: Mars Hydro FC-E1200W, SF-7000, SF-2000 evo in flower room.
                              Medium: Coco/perlite, 7.2gal pots, no drains
                              Current Grow: ​​​5 x Photos Franklin's Orange Zkittles x Sour Diesel in flower room, 3 Franklin's White Widow x Sour Diesel Clones, 13 x Orange ZkittleZ x Sour Diesel clones in Aeroponics buckets x 2.
                              Last Grow: A mix

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