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    #16
    Oh. This does not like hit conglomerate resin. Conglomerate resin does not hit the head like weed. My miracle hits the head just like the weed it came from. Which is a good hit.
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      #17
      There it is. That burned, fried chicken butt-hole crust I was talking about. I'm letting this stuff sit for a while. See if it ripens or cures. I do not need to be a vegetarian to dislike that smell.
      The problem is I cannot separate the finer particulate matter. The super fine stuff that passes through the coffee filter that gives the color. Still too dirty.
      A damned thing about this is I still have solvent that gave me so much hormonal imbalance to get. If research doesn't give me a somewhat simple way to clean this up, I'm going to have $28 worth of hormone unbalanced solvent and 11 grams of sadness.
      I do not think I will buy one of those washing machines. For $200 I can shake that triangle bag in a bucket of ice, myself.
      Last edited by Gingerbeard; 03-14-2024, 12:45 PM.
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        #18
        I was taught a method using butane/propane and a tube to place the stalks in, and then blasting the gas through the tube and out the bottom comes the resin.

        Is this method worthwhile? Do you get enough product? Is the oroduct a quality product? Im guessing its hash or is it something else?
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        • Gingerbeard
          Gingerbeard commented
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          Blasting a packed glass tube with butane is the common method. Anything after that becomes laboratory.
          Quality, it is not. It is the goodness of the plant that you want to extract from your plant, plus something that you do not.

        • Bluey
          Bluey commented
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          Thanks GB

          I don't have a glass tube but plenty of different pipes made from steel, poly & UPVC.

          I think I'll use this method to extract from the stalks, otherwise they will get tossed.

          Also I'll be using the quick wash ISO method for the trim and some green butter from the leaves.

          That just leaves the roots that I have no plan for

        #19
        The waxes and particulates can be cleaned out by dissolving the resin in ethanol, chilling the solution with dry ice, vacuum filtering with a lab filter, then draw off the ethanol in a purge chamber.
        Don't worry, be happy, grow sticky buds.

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        • Bluey
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          That sounds rather complex for my very basic home lab that is limited to a BBQ gas bottle and 4ltrs of isopropyl sitting in my freezer door

        #20
        That is called 'winerization' Ckbrew. The process you are talking about is how distillates are made. That is my familiarity, anyway. The best I was able to do was freeze the butane. Dry-ice is optimal but needs to be added to until the process is done. A kitchen freezer will do the same but in more time.
        I would love to get into that but I have a few drawbacks. One being quantity. The equipment and process handle much larger quantities than I will ever produce. Another being dry-ice. I was sourcing it to use this round. I have a dewaxing column that is made for, and I have gone with dry-ice. The stuff is rare for me to get without a car. Ethanol is special order for me. California is tight on what individuals can buy booze-wize outside of commercial use or in very small quantities. 151 is the highest booze we can get without using ISO. The equipment ain't nothing but a thing to buy. Just like my column.
        I thought, maybe, the wax might affect the taste. But the wax and shatter of pre-resin days never tasted like this. It is very much like rosin, which I am not a fan of dabbing.
        It is all about the green/gold plant matter.
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        • Ckbrew
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          In the land of fruits and nuts you can not get 95% ethanol- ain't that odd.

        • Gingerbeard
          Gingerbeard commented
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          But can you buy or is it convenient to drive to another state to buy the high-test Everclear? Closest I know about is two states away.

        • Gingerbeard
          Gingerbeard commented
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          Waaait, I just reread that. The land of fruits and nuts is California! Yeah, even sitting on top of Tijuana we are worried about getting our faces burned off in 'm'rica. We care more.
          We care more and, being the fifth largest economy in the world we freely feel free to force our neighbors to do the same.

        #21
        The evil Amazon has it delivered to o your door.
        keeping it green with the soil thing
        love me some frosty autos
        braap
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          #22
          Although it is illegal to buy or sell spirits higher than 151 in California, 200% food grade can be ordered from culinary supply stores, my Brocaholic. If ordering it online were a thing, banning it would not be a thing. I guess. One thing I read is we banned it because people were lighting their faces on fire with flaming drinks. Flaming drinks? My god, man! I have a moustache!!! Plus, I'm 53 and still learning how to work with the surge in nose-hair production.
          Amazon may be evil but they are top notch compared to the bastards at the USPS.
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            #23
            Winterization, the ghetto days.
            I dissolved a solution of the 3.7 gram puck in a jar with ISO. The jar went to Jr.'s -20° coffin freezer for a few hours. The dissolved resin got poured over a coffee filter rubber banded over a glass bowl. The percolation got de-ISO'd overnight on my grow light that kept the bowl at 105°. Scraped some. Dabbed the scraped some.
            Much less nasty. Still not conglomerate resin but I am not ashamed to share it with friends who give a hoot about what they use.
            I don't think this was so much winterization as it was gravitation. Making resin forces solvent and particulates through a filter. Letting the solution fall through the filter does not force the particles. They lay on the filter instead of being pushed through.
            I do not know how much dewaxing happened in the column, so I do not know how much wax was getting filtered by gravitation. Winterizing is about congealing and floating lipids in a solution of alcohol. The wax is more easily removed because it will no longer go through a filter. But what does it do to the particulates?
            Can a 10 micron piece of plant matter rehydrate to a 20 micron piece of plant matter in alcohol?
            My aim was to get rid of the particulates. I think I did a good job of it! Still some work to out. Equipment purchases to ponder. But I did it and I did it small scale with ghetto goods. Red-neck, if you prefer.
            I am so cool... I love experimenting with drugs...
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              #24
              My last batch of Hash, Mazar Kush from last fall.
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                #25
                Are those a gram each or a pound each? Give some scale, please. What % return do you average with a 220 screen?
                Would you like me to winterize and gravitize them, senor?​
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                  #26
                  Young Ginger the 3 "balls" equal to 12 grams, a ratio of 1 to 10, 1 gram of hash for 10 grams of dried cured flowers. As for my screen I use a 120 micron kind. Sometime less if the flower is less frosty.
                  Light: Viparspectra P2000, Viparspectra P1500, Viparspectra XS2000, KingLed 1500
                  Medium: organic, Fafard perlite, Fafard Urban Garden organic mix, Organic compost shrimps.
                  Nutrients: Alaskan Fish, Advanced Nutrients Big Bud, Advanced Nutrients Ancient Earth, Advanced Nutrients Sensi Cal Mag Xtra
                  Full auto grow
                  Grow room : 8X12X10, 2 industrial fans, 1 dehumidifier, 1 Vivosun carbon filter & controller
                  12 Wild Thailand Ryder from WOS

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                    #27
                    10%, got it. I swear someone said they were good with 220, and you are someone.
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                      #28
                      Don't swear too much that someone is someone else.
                      Light: Viparspectra P2000, Viparspectra P1500, Viparspectra XS2000, KingLed 1500
                      Medium: organic, Fafard perlite, Fafard Urban Garden organic mix, Organic compost shrimps.
                      Nutrients: Alaskan Fish, Advanced Nutrients Big Bud, Advanced Nutrients Ancient Earth, Advanced Nutrients Sensi Cal Mag Xtra
                      Full auto grow
                      Grow room : 8X12X10, 2 industrial fans, 1 dehumidifier, 1 Vivosun carbon filter & controller
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                      • Gingerbeard
                        Gingerbeard commented
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                        No, no... I said you are someone. Not, someone else. You are something else. Something else, entirely!

                      • Farmbuck
                        Farmbuck commented
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                        Putting the jokes aside, are you satisfy with your ratio of Hash ?

                      #29
                      What is the simplest and least expensive way for someone to make hash? Someone like me, who has never made it before?
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                      • Saeteinn
                        Saeteinn commented
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                        On the QWISO subject, I would not consume anything made with isopropyl. I doubt that here's a safe way to remove all of the iso from the end product leaving it unsafe to consume.

                      • Smallgrow
                        Smallgrow commented
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                        Riot screen box will make a small amount of dry sift easily for a low cost and low effort.

                      • o0644
                        o0644 commented
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                        Can use 190 everclear instead of iso, but if you can get 99% ethanol even better. I did qwiso and didn't get tons of yield, similarly with dry ice although the result is way different. If you heat up/decarb the qwiso oil afterwards, no isopropyl should remain.

                      #30
                      Scrape your stash jar or get a grinder with a kief catcher.
                      I would say anything with a screen will work. Bubble bags can be used for dry sift which does not need to dry out like ice water hash and you do not need to deal with dry ice.
                      Realize you do not make hash from weed. You make kief from weed and hash from kief.
                      Dry kief from dry sift or dry ice needs to be heated and pressed to make hash.
                      Ice water kief can be pressed so you have kief that is easy to handle but has not been given a heated hash treatment.
                      I've pressed bud and kief one time each. That is the easiest product I have extracted. But it is also the most wasteful and needs a big-honkin' press.
                      WWED?

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