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**newbutoldgrower75** · 07-16-2021, 01:27 AM

25/06 two seedlings of each strain had popped through the plug, one having trouble getting the membrane from the off. Applied a drop of water a couple of times to see if that would help. Opened vents on humidity dome. By the next day all seedlings were up, one WC looking a little average and one still having trouble removing membrane. Got sterilised tweezers and gently pulled off membrane successfully. Left dome on with vents open for 24hrs and then removed dome, turned off heat pad.
30/06 checked plugs and found the seedlings ready to be put into a jumbo solo cup cut down a bit, probably could have been done 244hrs earlier, my fault. Prepared solo cups with 70% coco 30% perlite and 1/4 strength A+B nutrients/Go Roots, pH 5.8. Then left for two hours before planting seedlings. Seedlings put back under T5 light, 3 to 4 inches from canopy. Over the next week kept medium damp with 1/4 strength nutrients in a spray bottle and tent at 23°C. Humidity is a bit of a battle here at the moment, its a very cold winter, central heating is making it a bit dry. Even with my humidifier on, I cant seem to get it higher than 58%.
On the 02/07 I added two more T5 globes to the light..white this time to help with growth and heat, light kept 3 inches away.

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**newbutoldgrower75** · 07-16-2021, 02:33 AM

10/07 Seedlings are ready to be put into their last pots in the big tent, they have grown a fair bit over the last 8 days. I prepared the pots then watered with 1/2 strength A+B(2.5ml per Ltr) and Go Roots .25ml per Ltr, then left to sit for 24hrs. The next day the seedlings were planted. I made holes in each pot big enough for the solo cup, cut away the solo cup gently, then planted and watered the seedling in. Lights were adjusted to 36" from canopy at 50% power. Temp is only 23°C and humidity is at 52%, still struggling with the cold and ducted heating, its a bit of a battle. The Wedding Cake didn't seem to need time to recover after the transplant, just started taking off straight away under the ES 300's. The Grandoggy Jones took 3 days to recover, but are doing well now.
Pictures are taken day of transplanting 11/07

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**Smoklahoma** · 07-16-2021, 04:52 AM

I'll be following along for the ride. Been contemplating doing the same.

**newbutoldgrower75** · 07-18-2021, 01:37 AM

Not much to report except that I am still dealing with low temps and humidity

. I now have one big humidifier in the room the tent is drawing air from, and a smaller one in the actual tent. Temps are ranging between 17°C at night and 23°C during the day. Humidity is fluctuating between 46% and 53%. If I raise the temperature on the house ducted heating it dries the air out even more. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

On the 17/07 day 1 of the 4th week since all seedlings sprouted I added Go Green to the feeding schedule, which is like a calmag with a couple of extra benefits. The feeding measurements for the next week will be Go Roots .25ml/L, Go Green 2ml/L, A+B 1.25ml/L..giving me a EC of around 1.1. I should also mention that I stir in the additives to my water(21-23°C) in the order I wrote them in this comment, then add equal amounts of A+B until I get my desired EC, aiming for EC 1.0 for this week. I am also only watering/feeding every 2 to 3 days at the moment. Started plants at 90cm's from lights, 50% power. Measured today WC is 84cm's from light, GDJ is 85cm's from light. Turned power up to 60% on lights to try help a little with heat.

As I am coming to the time when I would like to top, 5 to 6 nodes, was wondering how everyone tops? Does anyone take numbers 1 or 2 nodes off at the same time? Just been thinking about my past 2 grows, and noticed that the bottom nodes had developed longer branches than the others but had less bud. So I'm wondering(haha) if I take node 1 and maybe 2, would the plant focus its energy on more of the productive areas. I'm guessing that's what mainlining is more about, but I don't want to strip as many nodes. Probably sounds like a dumb question, but don't have the experience yet to answer it.

These photos were taken today 18/07. The first 3 are of the Wedding Cake, they are doing quite well considering the conditions aren't the best at the moment. They are just starting on the 5th node, correct me if I'm wrong please, and they are healthy enough to top over the next few days IMO. I will be topping them twice, maybe three times, depending on veg growth.
The 4th, 5th and 6th photos are of the Grandoggy Jones. They have been slow in growth compared to the WC since transplanting but seem to have taken off a bit more in the last couple of days. They are on their 4th node and will be topping I think around the end of week 4.
All plants seem to have responded very well to turning up the light by 10% 24hrs later

Thank you for taking the time to read this, and look forward to any help/advice with my questions and grow. Cheers.

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**newbutoldgrower75** · 07-23-2021, 07:35 PM

Hello everyone.

It has been about 7 days since I last posted on grow 3 due to being a very busy week for me, starting a new project

. The last week has been a bit of a up and down week for my grow 3, have had a couple of problems with the Grandoggy Jones plants. The plants starting showing symptoms of overwatering and also what looked like the start of Nitrogen Toxicity, tip burn and darkening leaves. I did a full flush with pH'd water then left the GDJ to dry out for an extra day or so than the Wedding Cake. I made a mistake by upping the nutrients too early for the GDJ when I went to half strength I think, they seem like they are quite a sensitive plant. But by yesterday the GDJ's plants seemed to be as healthy as the WC, but will be keeping the nutrients for the GDJ plants at a EC 1.0 for the next week just to be safe, then slowly raise the EC after that.
The Wedding Cake has been a dream to grow so far, not much I can really add about the WC plants except that watching them grow has been a delight. I will be slowly raising the EC on the WC plants this week to around 1.6, keeping a good on them as I raise the EC.

19/07 I added the third Electric Sky 300 to the tent for a bit of extra heat, and now the tent sits on around 24-25°C during the day, which has made me a bit happier

. The humidity is slightly higher as well, between 50-55% during the day.

21/07 Yellow sticky pads delivered and put in pots. There was a bit of a fight between a couple of leaves and the sticky pads, pads won

. I made a mistake by putting the pads too close to the plant, got a little leaf damage. So if your looking at the holes in the leaves and you think bug problem .. its not. It was an attack by the yellow sticky pads on my plants, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. lol

23/07 Started training. So during my research on training in the past week, I stumbled upon a tutorial that I became quite interested in. This tutorial by BU2B .. How I average a pound per plant - GrowWeedEasy.com Cannabis Growing Forum is what I will be following for this grow, and I'm pretty excited about it. Today I topped all plants between nodes 3 and 4. It was one of the hardest things I have had to do, literally I had a tear running down my cheek lol. When I have topped previously its been between the 4th and 5th node, but that extra node seemed like a lot of plant haha.

24/07 Plants recovered from topping quite well, all leaves were up not droopy.

Pictures were taken yesterday 23/07. First three are of the WC, third pic of 1 plant topped. Last 3 pictures of GDJ, third pic of 1 plant topped.

Cheers.

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**Smoklahoma** · 07-24-2021, 08:00 AM

Looking good. That's a great tutorial. Was planning to do the PPP method myself but I got some funky crap growing in my buckets that can't seem to get rid of.

**newbutoldgrower75** · 07-30-2021, 08:51 PM

Hello everyone.

End of week 5. Once again I have had a bit of a hectic week with life and growing, research overload. I have had a pretty productive week with the grow three tent. At the start of the week I had to trim the tips off some of the large fan leaves, they were touching the rim of the pot and some were starting to touch the ground before light went out. I am now feeding all plants nutrients/additives at an EC 1.6 .. Go Roots .25ml/L, Go Green 2ml/L, Grow Fast 2.5ml/L and A+B 1ml/L. I will be slowly raising the EC to EC 1.8 over the next week or two, keeping a good eye on the plants Humidity and temp are still a bit up and down, but the weather here is slowly getting warmer. I have done a lot more training as well on the plants .. info and pictures below. Other than that, I have just been doing general maintenance/care for the plants and tent, lots of cleaning

. Cheers

28/07 5 days after topping the plants I stripped all vegetative growth from underneath node 3, except for the two fan leaves with node 3.

29/07 started training the plants horizontally .. which was a little scary to start off with lol

30/07 Cut all large fan leaves off plants as they were getting in the way of training, leaves were starting to lay on top of each other.

Pictures are before and after stripping the vegetative growth below node 3 .. not sure what order they will upload in sorry, been having trouble.

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**newbutoldgrower75** · 07-30-2021, 08:55 PM

Pictures of training branches horizonal and removal of large fan leaves..

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**TOKABIGONE** · 07-30-2021, 11:44 PM

Hey there old Aussie, your grow looks really good. This might be a dumb question if I'm missing something but I see your medium is in a screen cloth bag and then in a square white pot. Does that not defeat the purpose of a grow bag to root prune by air circulation around the bag? And the drain petcock is just for water run off? Sorry I just haven't seen this setup before. Thanks I'm off to bed so I'll look for your answer in my morning, lol ! Happy pharming!

**newbutoldgrower75** · 08-01-2021, 07:49 AM

TOKABIGONE here some pics of the pots .. best I can do at the moment buddy.

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**newbutoldgrower75** · 08-07-2021, 03:35 AM

Hey everyone.

I had to go away for 6 days from the 02/08 to today (07/08) for a week of tests, scans, rehabilitation and appointments with specialists. It was better for me to stay there than to travel 2.5hrs there and back all week, my back and neck wouldn't handle it at the moment. So I left my roommate in charge of the grow tents with specific instructions of what to do while I was away, I think you can guess where this post is going now haha. I got a phone call from him Thursday (05/08) asking me if he had been doing everything right as the plants don't look well and are looking quite dark and droopy. He also mentioned the leaves had tip burn and were starting to look wrinkly. First thing that came to me was Nitrogen Toxicity and overwatering. I don't want to go into too many details as I am thankful that my roommate looked after them for me, but the EC ended up being too high and he was feeding them twice a day when it was suppose to be every second day. I asked him to flush each pot with 8 litres of pH'd water to each plant slowly and not to give them anything else until I get back. I checked the Hygrometer when I got back and the temps/humidity haven't been the best either unfortunately .. HIGH temp 24.4°C + 72% humidity LOW temp 14.9°C + 35% humidity .. not good

. And to make things even worse I found a split in the main stem/trunk of the plant, definitely wont be going away again until the grows are finished, I asked him to keep the branches as Horizontal as possible while I was gone, another mistake made by me.

So I'm hoping for some help from you good people of the GWE Forum with how to best tackle this, I have had a tough week as it is. The plants are looking a lot better from a couple of days ago soo y roommate says. They definitely don't look like they have grown much, but seem to healthyish. The leaves are definitely a darker green, bigger tip burn on the GDJ plants than the WC, leaves look like the plants have been overwatered lately (droopy and slightly wrinkled). The tips of the GDJ along with the darker green color, look like signs similar to Nitrogen Toxicity.
Should I give each plant a full flush of 90 litres each and then start them on EC 1.3? Or should I wait an extra day for them to dry out and just them back on nutes at EC 1.3? They haven't been fed since the 8 litre flush with pH'd water on the 05/08, and the plants do seem to be recovering according to my roommate, they do seem quite perky compared to the way he described they were.

Any advice help with the plants would be greatly appreciated as always, especially with the flushing etc, I don't want to do anymore damage to them by overwatering them even more. Also if anyone has any advice ideas to give some strength to the split in the main stem/trunk of the plant, will upload photo as well. Cheers

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**TOKABIGONE** · 08-07-2021, 07:54 AM

I think I would pt supports under the main beam and tape the trunk under the split. If you can keep that gap closed it will heal ok, form a scar and be strong. Hope your tests are all god results. G'day sir!

**newbutoldgrower75** · 08-08-2021, 01:46 AM

Thanks TOKABIGONE for the idea. As the white hooks were just thin old clothes hangers that I cut and reshaped to make pegs, they obviously weren't doing the job properly of staying in the ground. I "had" a cheap old wire clothes dryer thingy made of thicker wire that I was planning to take to the tip/recycle, nothing wrong with it just don't use it. So I proceeded to cut it up and shape the ends like idea you mentioned above(refer to picture), and I think they are going to work a lot better.

I do have a question/s before I install the supports. As I have found another slight split in another trunk, and they are more than a day or two old by the looks of them, so will have to use the supports for whole grow no doubt .. would it be better to leave the supports long and cut them to size so they reach the bottom of the pot? Would that give better support to the branches? Would I do any damage to the roots going that far down?
Any help would be greatly appreciated before I install them and potentially stuff things up more than it already is .. cheers

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**newbutoldgrower75** · 08-14-2021, 05:31 AM

Hey everyone.

So it has been a busy week in the Grow 3 tent trying to get the plants healthy and growing again. But after some TLC and lots of hours put into them, the plants seem to be back on track and growing again. I have now got supports under the main branches of 3 of the plants that had slight splits in the top of the trunks, thanks TOKABIGONE for the idea and help. The splits seem to be healing even though I haven't had a chance to get any tape, bloody lockdowns. The supports work well and still train the main stems Horizontally without putting any pressure on the split in the trunk. The plants are a bit behind now due to temps/humidity and me being away for those 6 days, but are catching up on the training part and will do the second topping in the next couple of days.

I also gave the plants 8/L of pH'd water each and started them back on nutes at EC 1.3, it seems to have helped with the Nitrogen Toxicity that looked like they were starting to get. Leaves are back to a nicer green color now. The lights haven't been adjusted since the plants have been under them except the power of the lights to 60%. As I hadn't accounted for height of the plants from mainling this time, I gave The Greensunshine Company a call and spoke to David, once again haha. He suggested that I turn the lights to 70% and watch the plants for a couple of days, then turn it up to 80% if the plants aren't showing any signs of stress. The lights were turned up to 80% today, so fingers crossed.

I know there was more I had to add to this but I'm pretty heavily medicated(Gelato OG from last harvest) at the moment, so will most probably put more in later. These pics were taken first thing this morning at lights on, before feeding and a little defoliation. Any advice/opinions/feedback is warmly welcome as always. Cheers

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