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[BU2B]

OLD Growers & old Growers HELP from the Old Growers Group

How to use OG Group forum on GWE to get personalized help:

1. Scroll through the group members in this forum or click HERE to go to the Quick Navigation Guide by Post
2. Select an OG Group member whose introductory post is most applicable to your specific need(s)
3. Left click on your selected group members avatar and select Private Message. If on a mobile device just tap your selected group member and select Private Message
4. Please take any photos with natural light or flash. If your light panels produce a blurple light or any hue that changes your photos; please turn off the panel(s) before you take any photos that you will be submitting to your chosen group member.
5. Try and be understanding - We will always do our best to help in a timely manner. But; just like you, we are real people with real lives and don’t ALWAYS sit in front of the computer perusing GWE 😃

[SoOrbudgal]

What up BU2B ?

[BU2B]

There are a lot of OLD GROWERS here on GWE whether that means those 50 or over or those with 5 or more consecutive years of growing experience. IF you qualify on either account and would like to help others, please let them know by telling us a bit about yourself here, making your profile public and allow all users to private message you.

If you post your name and info here you agree to the above along with the following OG Group general forum guidelines:

1. Please be kind to each other and do your best to put yourself in the other persons shoes.
2. Please don't talk down others in public - Keep squabbles and personal differences private. See OG Group forum guidelines #5 below
3. This is NOT a substitute for other forums or topics - just an additional resource.
4. Please tell us enough about your growing method and experience that people can find you easily in this forum. See Posting Guideline Suggestions
5. NOTE: this forum is NOT for posting questions or getting answers about growing directly in the forum, but instead will give you a list of GWE users who are willing to answer your question(s) personally - if they can OR direct you to a forum or other user whose posts might be more helpful.

Posting Guideline Suggestion for those applying for OG Group Membership:

• Number of years growing (5 years minimum) or 50 years plus of age. You HAVE TO BE an OLD GROWER to be a part of the OG Group
• Indoor or Outdoor
• Growing Medium
• Lights
• any additional information that would help those using this forum

Why OLD GROWERS? My hope is that OLD GROWERS will be less prone to opinion and tend more to actual empirical evidence. If you have an opinion and your asked for it, by all means give it; however, when you do so, PLEASE clearly state that it is your opinion or belief. Opinions are good, evidence and actual help are better.

Plans for the future? First goal is get as many signed up for the GWE newsletter as possible! Tell your friends, tell your family, tell your enemies (maybe they'll become your friends) Sign up for the GWE Newletter!

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OG GROUP QUICK NAVIGATION GUIDE BY POST

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OG Group Members
(Over 650 years of life experience and Growing)


alltatup OG Group Resume: Post #5
BU2B OG Group Resume: Post #4
Canuck147 OG Group Resume: Post #13
Ckbrew OG Group Resume: Post #15
DeadlyFruit OG Group Resume: Post #12
Farmbuck OG Group Resume: Post #6
Going2fast OG Group Resume: Post #74
grouchyoldman OG Group Resume: Post #7
JeffInCanada OG Group Resume: Post #9
oldjarhead100 OG Group Resume: Post #44
TOKABIGONE OG Group Resume: Post #25
UndergroundFarmer OG Group Resume: Post #21



Selecting any OG Group Member from the list above by clicking on their avatar or moniker will allow you to Private Message them

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Topics
(Hint's, Allegations & Things Left Unsaid - until now)

Let that Sh!t Go: Post #22
On Newbies, Tolerance & Diversity: Post #23
A Tribute: Post #48
What is Phytol?: Post #51
What's the Purpose of the OG Group?: Post #53
International Cannabis Growing Community: Post #61
Perception: Post #80
OG Group Featured Current Grows: AS OF 9.20.21: Posts #81-82
Politics & Religion: One persons thoughts Post #91 removed

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Friday's NORML NEWS
(the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Law)

August 6, 2021
August 14, 2021
August 20, 2021
August 27, 2021
September 3, 2021
September 10, 2021
September 17, 2021
September 24, 2021
October 1, 2021
October 8, 2021
October 15, 2021

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The smoker you drink the player you get
(Tunes to trim by - AKA Saturday's Selected Songs)
All the songs (so far) posted on the OG Group

black as night - Breeze - Walk Away - You're It! - In hell I'll be in good company
Hey, hey, hey - Love is my Religion - My Mind is for Sale -The ghost of Tom Joad - the love wouldn't die!
Activate - Strength in One - We In a Different Room - Poems, Prayers and Promises
Storm Boy - Everyday People - LOVE - Put Down What You are Carrying - Jupiter's Call
get together - in times like these - I Believe - Burn one down - Don't Hold Your Breath!
good day for a good day - I don't wanna be - good shit happens too! - Seeds Of Freedom
Teach Your Children Well - One Love - We are on time! - The Garden - Good Rain
Forgive

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[TOKABIGONE]

Ha Ha BU2B one time (more than that) I looked up to find it was 1am when I had started after my bedtime and had only written 10 lines but edited them more than that because I try to get every word precise. That's the curse and the beauty of English. You can say the same thing 10 different ways and not use the same word twice. If you have a good command of English you can confuse and discombobulate just about anyone in any conversation.

[BU2B]

CaptainWiese91 you, my friend- are the exception to the rule. And... you're welcome. We're more than happy to have helped paved the road that leads to your success! It's all about the plant - There's just something about 'Mary'

I didn't mean WE specifically helped you, but, it has been a LONG TIME COMING and many arrests and lives ruined under the bridge, A lot of OLD GROWERS giving all they've got, NORML Pamphlets passed out, long hours, hard work and perseverance to get US where WE are today and, that includes YOU! Unless you are the only person born with innate cannabis knowledge in tact, or are able learn by osmosis, I'd bet you learned growing from SOMEONE or a bunch of someone's like the rest of us had to do.

[CaptainWiese91]

Lol 🤣. It was not meant as you guys helped me at all.

I was rocking the growing before I entered this site. Been here for over a year now. Only joined the site because I wanted to help people get started.. but now it’s just for the community and the awesome pictures people are showing.

My intention was like tersky - age doesn’t matter. I think I helped more people who were older than me, than younger than me 😆

But I like the purpose of the group - no hate here 👍🏻

[BU2B]

I'll go first.

• Growing since I was 18 - now in early 60's. 8 years of that consecutive, indoors and legal.
• Growing Inside in 4x4x6 Grow Tent
• Growing medium Hydroponics. Deep Water Culture. 5 Gallon Tubs
• Light: Mars Hydro TS3000 LED
• Preferred plant type: photo-period feminized. I have grown 1 auto, but not on purpose

[alltatup]

You're hired!!!!

[grouchyoldman]

Welcome back old friend! I'm sure it was modesty that precluded your "resume" mentioning of the excellent advice you have already contributed here in the past @BU2B!
https://forum.growweedeasy.com/forum...ant#post464333

Count me in.

[alltatup]

Ahem, here is my resume:

• 68 years old; started loving cannabis in the 1960s.
• Growing since July 2016, so my five year anniversary is coming up.
• Indoor grower, hydroponics. I helped a friend learn how to grow in soil last summer. He didn't do what I told him to do, so his weed was mediocre.
• I grow photoperiod plants only; not interested in autos.
• I believe that the grower's intentionality towards cannabis is very important: my intention is to grow the very best medicine I can.
• Cannabis has brought out the wicca in me: I worship her and she connects me more strongly to mother nature.
• Most recent harvest:

[Farmall]

Gee, looking great buddy

[Farmbuck]

I'm a miserable 68 old fart who like to grow if I can put my hand on "landraces" and making hash the old fashion way. Yes count me in. Just finish my last grow a few months ago. I've got many moons of grow experiences under my belt.

[alltatup]

You're not a miserable 68 yr old fart: you're a FABULOUS 68 yr old fart, like me!!!!!

[Farmbuck]

Lolll But wife always saying that I'm a miserable but lovable fart who complaints all the time about the weather here in Canada !!

Cheers, alltatup

[grouchyoldman]

One of the great things about the GWE forums is the minimal amount of snarky meanness shown towards newbie questions or the occasional troll. I greatly appreciate that as a respite from the culture wars raging around us. So, I'm All In on this effort and will gladly contribute what I've learned about this fascinating subject on request.

My background:

• 68 years old, using cannabis since I was 13. I recall the evolution from mexican dirt weed kilos, to Panama Red, Acapulco Gold, Thai Stick, Maui Wowie, Skunk and onward into the fabulous strains we have today.
• I've grown in many different venues, from a hippie commune outdoor acre, to guerilla grows on a isolated mountainside, to secret closet setups in states that offered life in prison if you were caught.
• Now, in the age of Canna Enlightment, growing has become legal and I've got a sweet basement grow room for my experiments. Hallelujah and pass that doobie!
• I have a strong science background and I'm more methodical than creative really. I've been growing a single strain, White Widow, for the last year, tweaking the "knobs" each time to get to know that one plant deeply. Now I'm moving on to the wild world of AutoFlowers.
• I grow exclusively in large pots using soil comprised of the compost I make combined with Foxfarm or other quality commercial soils as an amendment. Appropriate nutes as needed. State of the art LED lighting and an evolving system of environmental controls allows me to pamper my plants and let them tell me what they need.
• My goal is epicurean quality rather than high yield.
• I'm learning how to create cannabis tinctures and hashish and I almost always use a vaporizer to spare my aging lungs.

Despite my avatar name I'm generally amenable and helpful. So, if there's a question I'm qualified to answer, hit me up!

-Grouchy

[alltatup]

68 yr olds rock!!!!! I'm now growing for the same purpose: to produce the best, dankest, stankiest bud I possibly can. So I eliminate all, I mean all, potentially larfy bud.

[SoOrbudgal]

I am a real skeptic about those who really care about doing grows properly and those who just F around willy nilly. My info is viewable. Too many games anymore from ding a lings. I'm really choosy anymore whom i decide to help.

[BU2B]

Your choice is your choice and perfectly fine by me. But for those reading this that are not SoOrbudgal - FOLLOW this woman! You'll learn a lot.

[Farmall]

When SoOrbudgal speaks….people listen. This is one powerhouse source…read some of her 5000 posts and you’ve got your own grow guide

.by the way, you gotta see my 68 Dahlias… like a psychedelic display of color

[JeffInCanada]

Cool idea...I could use some help with growing that is for sure. I like the name too, OG

• 53 here.
• I have done the summer Canadian ritual a bunch of times in the past (find a secret spot, plant a few plants there, check them throughout the summer and hope that they are still there for harvest time). This was back when it was still illegal. But this was always outdoors of course
• Since it has become legal in Canada I have been trying to grow indoors. This is a much different animal than growing outdoors. The plant may also not be there by harvest time but only because I killed it.
• I'm a little stubborn too I guess. For example, if I hear of a new grow method or trick...I want proof and details of why the trick or method works before I will try it.
• I usually grow one autoflowering plant at a time. It is enough for me.
• Using soilless mix under LED lighting and CFL lighting.
• I've really grown fond of growing cannabis, it has become one of my hobbies. My goal is to grow the best cannabis that I can grow with the equipment that I have.
• I have given advice on here in the past but I have decided that I probably shouldn't and will refrain from doing so. I'm really still learning and probably shouldn't be giving out much advice.

Good luck BU2B Thanks for trying to put this together. If I can be of any help, let me know.

[alltatup]

We may just become a mutual admiration club... although I hope not. After 5 years on this forum, I find it difficult, if not impossible, to help newbies that haven't read or studied anything about cultivating cannabis. Helping someone online who doesn't do their own homework is often an exercise in frustration, because you get various people hazarding guesses and lots of advice based on opinions rather than on actual knowledge or without having enough info. That's the basic reason I'm not as active as I used to be. Don't get me wrong: I welcome all newbies, but I refuse to keep writing the same essential information over and over that can be found over on gwe.

So my motto is: Anyone can grow shit weed easy. Growing top shelf weed is not easy if you can't keep all your balls in the air (juggling metaphor). Once you learn to keep all the balls in the air without dropping them and fucking the whole thing up, then it starts to get a bit easier. At least that has been my experience since I started growing.

[JeffInCanada]

Lots of truth and mutual feelings in this post. Great analogy with the juggling (glad you pointed out balls in the air was juggling). Very true. The ones that drives me nuts (staying with a ball & nut theme) are the ones who pop in, write a fairly detailed post on their problems, you reply with an equally detailed post trying to help them and they never return to the forum so you don't know if they even read your helping post. It can be frustrating for sure.

[Tersky]

Amen to this. My sister got me a shirt that says "I used to be a people person, then people ruined it."

[Gracey]

62 here and I agree, asking questions when you've not even looked for answers in Nubula's and Sirius' posts has got to be annoying. I have really tried not to do that, they can really muck up a place.
How about when that happens instead of answering just post a link and paste a gentle yet clear statement that you keep on hand like, "Please SEARCH for an answer to your question on growweedeasy.com that may have been addressed already on the site before asking a new question." Cut and dry sometimes gets the message across.

[SoOrbudgal]

Thank you for helping me to express what i wanted to say but could not put into words alltatup. And also to you JeffInCanada exactly what my mind says but i struggle at times to put it into writings. I enjoy those young growers who really want to grow well an put effort into understanding soils, lighting, enviornmental needs to harvest top shelf weed.

[DeadlyFruit]

I just barely make it in the post 50 club (51!) but I wouldn’t say I am an expert. I think my first time trying weed was about grade 6 but after university my use of the plant went down to almost nothing until growing it became legal and I realized how much benefit it could be for me. I think I have about 7 grows under my belt now, a mix of mostly indoor but a couple outdoor. I purpose built a grow room in my garage. I grow mostly photos but I have done a crop of autos. I mostly do hybrids and indicas but I have done and will continue to do the odd sativa. I like to try new tech (I used to be a software developer but for a number of years now I’ve been a technical project manager), new strains and trying new things in general but I wouldn’t say I am a specialist. I generally try to apply logic to problems rather than trying something I don’t understand and I like to see the science behind decisions rather than just using blind trust. I respect and agree with the others above that it can be frustrating when people don’t do their homework before asking questions or don’t appear to realize it is real people answering with their spare time but given I was once one of those people I can live with it while finding a few new friends in the process. It would be nice if we had a phalanx of experts answering questions but since there is not generally a lot of true expertise with cannabis given there has been little research (for all of the obvious reasons) I am ok with the idea that much of what people put forward is more about personal experience than true expertise - I am just really happy they have decided to share their time and experience (it would be good though if people cited where they have an opinion vs a fact).

in short, I am very happy to be approached with questions. There are people with more experience than I have and I am not ashamed to in turn ask them for help occasionally as well. It is a good ecosystem

EDIT - the one thing I would add is that I have been coming to the conclusion that people create a lot of their own problems (myself included). The new growers shouldn’t jump in with the idea that they will maximize the yield in their grow space on their first crop with loads of smelly rock hard top shelf nugs. If they do they end up trying to do a lot of things they don’t understand. It leads to anxiety and a lot of damage through too much love for their plants. If they started off by letting their plants do most of the heavy lifting (eg stick with LST and ensuring their ph is suitable and save measuring EC and having lights as close as humanly possible without burning things to their second grow etc). Just my own thoughts. I think the plants can live through a lot if you let them and starting slow will mean more learning and less frustration (and probably larger harvests on average).

[Canuck147]

Count me in as well - I've seen my birthdate come and go 64 times - don't remember them all.

Been growing since I retired from CBSA - 7 years indoors. Only 4 years with a grow tent - early mistakes were done in a shed and outside.

Currently only grow autoflowers. Have Done photoperiod in the past but once i started using a tent i just couldn't figure out how to keep the vents closed with no airflow for the 12 hours of darkness. So autoflowers were tried and never gone back.

I like to be able to start another grow while my current grow is a few weeks away from harvest - without worrying about light requirements.

I grow in soil - Promax HP - which stands for high porosity - currently using an Optical COB light by Cree. I use 2 gallon Geopots.

[Farmbuck]

They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Well this one say who I am in a few words. Yes even at 68 I'm still searching for the "perfect" top shelf, loud and all of the other buzz words used now in the cannabis world.

Am I an expert grower ? Au contraire just a grower who after all these years who is still learning... But one thing for sure I still have that burning flame to grow more and more of that gorgeous plant called cannabis.

Below is the wife"s Mazar Kush in her several weeks of curing period.

[alltatup]

My main aspiration is to keep learning.

[Ckbrew]

This looks interesting, I'm a little different from most here. Been around the sun 60 times. I have enjoyed cannabis for the last 46 suns (how things have changed). I have been making tinctures for the last 10 suns, but somehow never grew until now. Currently only my second grow. Last year as a joke/dare a bunch of bag seeds were thrown into a wet paper towel and then it started. Didn't have clue one of what I was doing, unprepared for what I needed for supplies how to do it, just a total noob. Someone suggested growing in pro mix bx and GH trio so that is what I did. That is when I joined this group and started reading everything I could find about how to grow, and asking questions on the board. I studied different training techniques and tried as many as I could. I cared for some, and downright abused some. Starving, burning, dry out, flood, strip All fan leaves, strip All shoots, LST, HST, manifolding, you name it. One was called tortured hybrid since the cat knocked it off the rail, then every time I went by I gave it a hard backhand. Most of them survived. Those that didn't got burned (not in a pipe). I learned about insects, tree larf, white mildew, bud rot, nutrient starvation and burn, ans so much more. I also learned about harvesting, trimming, drying, curing. The best thing that I have to say is I sure have a natural ability to grow a prime crop. Not just my opinion.

So now this year I have settled on indoor coco/perlite DTW hydro with GH trio and cal mag, sf 4000, in a 5x5, and autos for outside in pro mix hp. I'm still learning, and am glad to have support from people on this board. And I have to say, that I recognize almost everyone above as someone who has responded to my query, or made helpful comment over the past year. BU2B your PPP grow method post was a true inspiration in planing this year's set up. The manifolding information was very helpful. Ty. Onward...

[BU2B]

Ckbrew I frickin love the Avatar Image!