SOIL New Grower Probably My First Hermie

[TheKieftan]

Unfortunately I’m pretty sure I have my first hermie not sure what else it could be just looking for a second opinion (since I’ve only seen hermies in pics) before harvesting it and getting it away from what I hope are my two remaining healthy plants the plant that hermied was my strongest growing banana mango of 2 it started flowering in earnest on Jan 9 and was supposed to be an 8 week grow so it’s 11 days overdue but I had withheld harvesting because I wasn’t seeing many if any ambers I believe the hermie is very new they stick out fairly easily and I check my plants daily if someone thinks another option other than killing the plant is better let me know

[Rougge]

Yes you have nanners(male parts) and it looks like a brown seed to the bottom left

[TheKieftan]

OMG I didn’t even notice well my blind butts probably been missing these things for weeks dang nystagmus

[Rougge]

Imho I would harvest ASAP! Sometimes the plant may throw out nanners when the harvest window is nearing or when closing

[kingfish]

Just pluck the nanner off and keep the seed. Is female. It won't affect the potency of your weed at all.

[MrPNW]

Rougge yeah I just enlarged that pic and there are two seeds down there.
When seeds are that big does that usually mean the other plants will already have them too? I’ve only grown once.

TheKieftan what did the plant come from, bag seed, bought seed, clone? Wait...banana mango...you were bound to have a nanner.

[TheKieftan]

Yeah after further inspection I think I’ve just been oblivious there were a lot of nanners on the plant it was a humboldt seed an alternate name for the strain is humboldt smoothie just got over confident haven’t had any major issues my entire grow and just got to thinking man this craps easy I’ll eat my humboldt pie now lol and i think I found the cause one of the smaller colas had collided with an adjacent plant and had bent 90 degrees i noticed this 6-7 days ago i inspected the stem to see if it had been broken but the outer skin looked perfectly intact I thought I was one lucky guy

[Rougge]

If i am correct and maybe someone with more experience can chime in,but it takes between 4-6 weeks for seeds to mature after pollination

[MrPNW]

Yes but aren’t hermies prone to produce hermie offspring or is that only clones? I had red lights on both heaters, red led screen on 2 inkbird controllers and a red light on my surge protector, all on during lights out. I honestly think hermies are in the genetics more than from lights, otherwise why aren’t all outdoor plants hermies with all the city and star lights?
I don’t recall any one of my pot growing friends in the 70s mention hermies.

[TheKieftan]

First hermies are females who grow male parts these parts produce pollen plants version of sperm now normally a male plant has XY but since this is female it’s XX it doesn’t magically create a Y chromosome just because it has nanners and grow rooms are always full of females unless you’re a breeder so this special XX pollen can only land on a female that also has XX whether that’s the hermie itself or other plants and on the city light thing basically it’s not so much the amount of light pollution at night but how much it changes I think for instance let’s say a plant in a backyard is under a street light most it’s life but then the electric company comes by and replaces it with a different say brighter or different spectrum light this I believe raises the hermie risk but you’re definitely right hermie is a lot like cancer doing certain things can raise the risk but sometimes you can do everything right and bad genes will cause it to happen anyways and on your last thing the problem is to many people do believe that light pollution is bad and a lot of different things so over the years of breeding the plants are protected from these minor stresses and grow more susceptible to them but tbh if you were smoking weed in the 70s you were cool even before my mom was born so maybe you know more than me ps forgive me I’m smoking something that’s inspiring me to write a book lol

[MrPNW]

Yep graduated HS in 77 in San Diego area. My cousins from LA area got me high at 16. I became a classic stoner (you could count all strains on your fingers) who built our own skateboards, converted our 60s chopper bicycles into the original motocross bikes and eventually all of us were working on 10 year old hand me down muscle cars. We all piled into the back of pickups to head to the beach or desert for bottle-rocket wars. Those were the funniest times, they even created commercials for parents asking them, ‘do you know where your children are?’ Heck, we didnt know where are parents were. We had 13 tv channels where maybe 6 worked good if the antennae, jerryrigged with a bunch of metal coat hangers, wasn’t blown out of position. If you broke down it took forever to walk to a phone so everyone picked up hitchhikers. Guess what, I never knew anyone to be murder or disappear.
There...here’s a chapter for your book.

[Rwise]

Yes it takes 4-6 weeks for seeds to mature, yes the chance of more hermies is certain the seeds on the hermie its self would be S1s and have the greatest chance of producing hermies. There are many folks that think we are hurting the plant we luv most with these feminizing manipulations. And many think that self pollinating is the next step in evolution.
I had a red LED in my grow room, nearby I had some foxtails which at the time I thought was from the light, and it may be but from another light, the one above it made heat, the heat caused the foxtails.
I planted some bag seed from some cali weed, every single one hermied, it was genetics, which is most likely here as well.

[TheKieftan]

Yeah I think your hypothesis was just confirmed after the lights came on this morning I spent ten minutes inspecting every nug on my other banana mango and found 2 half formed nanners so basically my more vigorous BM was the one that hermied and sometime ago I noticed a new smell develop from it that I can only describe as weed musk bliss I thought this was a good sign it’s the first thing I’ve grown that smelled like actual weed and not grass or something but now I’m thinking the smell change was more an indicator it was primed for harvest and my other BM was always lagging behind and today is the first day I’ve noticed the dank smell from the weaker BM I’m a constant sniffer I was on an adventure yesterday trying to replace a 10mm bong downspout but I’m sure it didn’t smell dank Monday and to add to this from the description of BM it almost sounds like it was grown for breeders in mind to add rare terpenes to their genetics so I’m wondering if the hermie genes are intentional to assist with breeding the one chink in my reasoning is why the hermied BM has such developed seeds I’m sure the damage to the cola was less than 3 weeks ago but I’m also fairly sure the dank smell started from vigorous BM shortly after the cola was damaged and but all said I think I’m good this weed smells awesome and I’ve learned to trust my nose but just on the safe side i quick dried a nug in the oven on very low heat it was harsh of course but the effect was decent and very potent I’m sure the harshness will go away with proper curing

[TheKieftan]

Well actually now that I’m trimming nanners are popping out everywhere pfft I can’t believe I missed these yellow buggers for so long

[Rougge]

Well said ...

[SoOrbudgal]

Good conversaion interesting. I'm seeing more seed in the dispensary weed lately FYI. Some look like healthy tiger stripe others green.

[Rwise]

I plant bag seed, but only when I have plenty of bud put up, you just dont know what you'll get, could be fantastic.