COCO COIR Here is my second installment of my Grow Journal with today's pics and questions

[TOKABIGONE]

This clone has an obvious problem I can't identify. Note the yellow new growth and the burnt tips. Any ideas?


Today I did some LST on my 3 plants in manifold. Pics to follow another excerpt of my journal. I have a question about the health of my one clone as well and there is a pic of it as well.


Tuesday Dec 22, 2020
Mixed some nutes in 1 gal of filtered tap water. trial and error here on the pH testing as I don't know yet how much pH down to put in for a gallon. A little at a time and retest or I waste the gallon and start over. Adjusted pH to 5.8 with the nutes in and fed Annie and Betty. Wow, Connie just looked little at 4am now at 12:30 I can see very tiny serrated true leaves! She may catch the other girls.

Going out to paint the exterior of my grow cabinet, then put on hinges and a latch and it will be ready. Mail just brought my grow bags so I can fill them with coco and put in the cabinet with a little heater so I can get the climate adjusted. Next week operations will move from inside to the cabinet out on my sun porch. It's unheated so a heater is necessary.

Friday Dec 25; 2020
Merry Christmas! Yesterday I finished setting up the cabinet, filled 3 bags with 2 inches of pea gravel in the bottom and then coco coir/perlite to the top. Then I flushed them with pH adjusted filtered tap water. I have a 28x42x1 inch tray from an old wire dog cage that fits perfectly in the bottom of the cabinet to catch runoff from the bags. I also put an inch of gravel in the tray under the bags for better drainage. Tonight I put a small 6x6x6 inch electric heater and a clip on fan on the bottom with a thermometer in one of the bagsThis will allow me to monitor and adjust the interior temp of air and bags to a constant 78 degrees. Night temps are in the mid 20's right now. Days in the mid 50's.

The girls, Annie and Betty are doing nicely with second set of true leaves developing. The 3rd, Connie, is growing more rapidly than the first 2 did and may easily catch up even though she is a week behind A and B who are now 18 days from sprouting. I lowered my Bloomspect SS1000 quantum light from 18" to 13" 2 days ago to see if growth rate increases. They were looking a little leggy. I'm going to move the cups from the house to the cabinet and put them on top of the bags so they can acclimate. I will run the hose of the reptile fogger/humidifier through a small hole to supply measured humidity with a hygrometer electric controller. This way the unit itself can be on the exterior of the cabinet for easy access and refill. My goal is constant 55% inside the cabinet. I'm at 4000 ft in northern Arizona so the average winter humidity is very low at 15% to 20 % RH. 10 days from now they should all be ready for transplant. Payday is 2 weeks away at which time I will order a second light.

Tuesday Dec 29, 2020
The girls are on a regular feed and water routine now and really starting to take off Annie is leading and Betty not far behind. Connie is just developing her second set of leaves. Last night before bed I noticed Annie just barely on her third set. This morning, 8 hours later, they are already an inch long. You go girl!
Her sets are very close together. I read something about that on GWE site. Have to go look it up now as I have coffee, to see if adjustments need to be made.I did note last nite that their leaves were slightly pointing up so I raised the lights a couple inches. Now about 18" from top of cups and 15" from tallest, Annie's top leaves. Seems a little too close but is within specs for Bloomspect. After reading about light stress on GWE, I was right about the leaves pointing upward or "praying". It's the first sign of lights too close. As I am a newbie to indoor growing, I am relying heavily on the info on GWE and m finding it a great resource to growing and avoiding problems. Even experienced growers can benefit here, especially if you are experimenting with new lights.

Friday Jan 1, 2021 5:30am
Happy New Year! It's 33 degrees outside. Coco temp is constant at 60 degrees. The girls are growing steadily with Annie in the lead. Her 4th node leaves are about a half an inch long. Journal paused....

Now for the pics: Sorry they got out of order in my download so if you number starting under the text it goes like this:

#1 is top view of finished LST.
#2 is side view before staking down.
#3 is side view still in the cabinet before I started.








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[SoOrbudgal]

Is there a question here ?

[TOKABIGONE]

Hey SoOrbudgal, the question was by the pic of the clone right at the top of my post. My one clone has an issue with yellowing new growth and burnt tips. Cant find this exact problem in the Plant Doctor. Looking for input from the community.

Also maybe you missed my comment in a previous post about Bud Porn. I was born and raised in the Willamette Valley. I.m betting I could guess the town you live in but won't say it, lol.

[CaptainWiese91]

looks like the plant is missing some Iron maybe

[TOKABIGONE]

Tuesday Feb 9, 2021 UPDATE: Me So Happy! Yesterday I did some more LST On the side tops, staking them down to grow out to the edge of the pot.This morning already the tips are pointing back up and all the girls are looking very perky. I will move the stakes outward as they grow until all the tops have more room before I allow them to finally grow upward. They need about another 8 inches in height before the switch. Maybe 2 more weeks but I'm not going to rush it. They are looking so pretty right now as they veg out and I'm trying for that perfect first grow. I'm very pleased with my manifold technique so far as I want a perfect flat canopy at 20 inches when I do switch to bloom. That's all the room I have in my 62" tall cabinet. I'm already planning for a new flowering room in an outbuilding which will be 4ft x 6ft or 24 sq ft by 8 ft high. My current cabinet is 10 sq ft by 5ft high and will convert to a 2 level veg cabinet. More is better right? But not at a sacrifice of quality. Of course it means more time investment but I'm retired and having a hell of a lot of fun with this. Right now I'm spending about 10 to 20 minutes a day on the girls. So what if it goes to an hour or two.Sure beats watching the tube!

[SoOrbudgal]

Very nice structure training there fella. I'm 60mi from Crater Lake NP. Down the hwy a piece

[TOKABIGONE]

Thank you SoOrbudgal gal, I have several ft of leftover 14ga romex electrical wire that I cut into 9 inch pieces and bent a small hook at the top for tie down stakes.Just push them into the coco and they hold very well where you need them. Also very easy to move as you need to or add a few more to train exactly where you want the stem to go. Thought I'd invented something cool then saw several others on here doing the same thing. I'm very adept at reinventing the wheel, lol.

I was hoping you might comment on my sick clone problem as I'm sure you have seen something like it before. I read the plant doctor section and looked at all the pics on here but none seem to fit exactly what I'm seeing. Must be a nutrient problem of some kind. It's been a few days since I fed her nutes so I think I'll go give her a big dose. Have to do something now or lose her. Any ideas?

[SoOrbudgal]

By looking at her might need a big drink of water. I just mixed up some very light fish/guano poo tea like a tsp. in a 16oz water bottle. Mine are looking way younger than yours just 2wks with roots. But once i see that they are digging in making roots i will give them a very light feed of the tea. Just seems to make them happy. I don't follow the book as you don't either i gather? I'm old school soil grower, If it yellow i give lite feedings then up the amount.

[Nepisiguit]

Really like what you've done with LST here. Looking forward to seeing updates.

[TOKABIGONE]

Earlier, about 10 hours ago, I gave the yellowing clone a heavy nutrient flush to runoff. Just went out to check on her and man she looks so so happy! Reaching right up toward the light now so In the morning I will raise her up on a block so she is closer to it. She's in a lower pot than my manifold plants and wanting more light. If I see green new growth in a couple days, I'll know I did the right thing.

I've been at this a whole 8 weeks now and I've learned so much in that short time. Weeks of reading, research and study are paying big dividends now as I am able to quickly diagnose issues and act to correct them before they become problems. Of course I'm glad I joined this community too and am grateful to all who have answered my newbie questions even though I may not have always followed that advise to the letter, it has all been helpful just to know there are others out there doing this who will try to help if I just ask. Thank you!

Learning manifold training and LST is becoming my favorite part of the growing process and I want to pursue those methods more fully going forward until I feel I have truly mastered them. It's just fun and I'm thinking I can apply a lot of it to my spring garden as well. Wonder what I can do with tomatoes, lol!