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    SOIL need help with 2.5 week old auto big devil xl

    This is my first time grow in life. I started with 2 auto big devil xl,
    due to less research i start my sprouts in medium size cup
    Now i know that i should have started them(autoflowering) directly in their final pot, anyways seedlings did well and i transplanted them in their final container after 2 weeks.
    I choose big 10, 12 gallons big pot because i want heavy yields and big plants.
    I used good manure fertilised black brown sticky soil
    I mean i use soil medium (some good soil)

    Light Timings

    Using 20/4 light schedule

    HUMIDITY
    • Week 1st: 70%
    • Week 2nd:65-70%
    • Week 3rd: 60-65%

    TEMPERATURE
    • DAY TIME : 24-27° Celsius (75-81)°Fahrenheit
    • Night time : 3,4 °Celsius less

    Lights
    • Cfl and white led bulb mix
    • Both 6500k cool lights


    Lights i will be using are
    For veg
    6500k (4,5)cool light led bulb of 50 watts normal led household bulbs
    about 250 watts (true)

    6500k cool light cfl 5×25watt(true), 2×70 watt (true)
    Total 265watts
    Means total 515watts(true) cool white 6500k

    And for flowering time
    • I will add about 3 bulbs of 50 (true) watt warm white led bulbs 5000 lumens each (2700k) -- 150watts total
    • And 4 20 watt (true) warm white 2000 lumens each 2700k To fill the blind spots --80watts total.
    • Total 230 true watts warm white 2700k
    So a total of 515 watts and 230 watts for flowering
    TOTAL 745 watts(true) light
    Expecting 500grams dry yeild

    I know its lots of light
    Thatswhy i have used xl pots and will use good amount of NPK

    I started with 2 25watt cfl bulbs on seedlings and they did well
    I placed lights about 3 inch from seedlings
    I used a lux meter
    And put my seedlings under 8000-10000 lumens for week 1
    Then i increased lumens to 12k-14k lumens in week 2 by placing lights closer.
    All went well,3,4 true pairs of good green leaves pop up in 2 weeks
    When i decided to transplant them, i watered 1 day before and now i softly transplanted my plants to moist(not to much) soil prefilled 10 gallon pots, then i moderately watered and 4 hrs rest time is on, lights off.
    Next morning plants seems normal, but not growing,
    Again after 12 hrs plants started to grow again.
    15 days and everything looks perfect

    Plants are now 17 days old
    2,3 days after transplant one of my plants look little pale
    Upper leaves are turning light green.
    Dont know whats the reason.
    Please Help.
    also i added 40 watt 6500k cool led bulb today and increased lumens to 18k


    Last edited by nextpablo420; 03-26-2020, 01:09 AM.

    #2

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      #3
      Sounds like you got it all covered, bud, I wouldn't worry one bit about the light color, on one of your plants, mine do that most all the time.
      Looks like you might should have used some perlite in your pots though,
      biggest pot I ever used for an auto was 5gallon, biggest harvest I ever had from an auto was in a 3gallon pot, a NorthernLights auto from Nirvana, got just a few grams short of 8ozs, dry bud .
      Grown quite a few that got 5-6ozs, dry from, autos.
      476 got way over a pound from one auto.
      Are you gonna use cfls, the hole grow?
      Cfls for a week or two
      315lec for everything else
      Dug up Ms.topsoil, with perlite added
      36x36x63 inch tent.
      6inch - exaust - intake fans an scrubber
      Smart pots
      Molasses
      Autoflowers

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        #4
        Most likely culprit is probably calcium deficiency or lock out I’m not 100% but it happened to me and I flushed the system waited a week before I gave any nutes and she’s back to doing her thing..
        but because your using soil you can’t be 100%
        maybe something was in the new soil she wasn’t used to and she’s telling you

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        • nextpablo420
          nextpablo420 commented
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          I didn't used any nutrient still
          Will start giving npk in 3rd week
          The soil is from my farm
          And i can guarantee that it is the best soil available in india for agriculture
          Also i added little natural manure to soil and mixed throughly.

        #5
        Lights i will be using are
        For veg
        6500k cool light led about 250 true watts
        6500k cool light cfl 5×25watt(true), 2×70 watt (true)
        Total 265watts
        Means total 515watts(true) cool white 6500k

        And for flowering time
        • I will add about 3 bulbs of 50 (true) watt warm white led bulbs 5000 lumens each (2700k) -- 150watts total
        • And 4 20 watt (true) warm white 2000 lumens each 2700k To fill the blind spots --80watts total.
        • Total 230 true watts warm white 2700k
        So a total of 515 watts and 230 watts for flowering
        TOTAL 745 watts(true) light
        Expecting 500grams dry yeild

        I know its lots of light
        Thatswhy i have used xl pots and will use good amount of NPK

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          #6
          yeah - huge pots for autoflowers - your plants' roots will spend too much time trying to figure out how big their new home is. That will hurt your yield. Have to grow the roots first with autoflowers - happy roots make for big buds.
          ​​​​​​3 X 3 gorilla. Promix soil . Green Planet Nutes
          Optic 4 - 415w COB 18/6
          Vortex in-line 6" fan

          Solo cup participant - Sister Glue

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          • nextpablo420
            nextpablo420 commented
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            So, should i give some potassium for better root development,
            I have heared potash helps is good for roots.
            By the way my fertilizer order is stuck due to 21 day lockdown in india.
            I was thinking of giving 10 3 6 ratio npk fter 3,4 days.
            Is that okay

            And please tell what is wrong with yellow leaves at top

          • Canuck147
            Canuck147 commented
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            Cannabis roots love oxygen - that's why you see most grows with about 30% of the grow medium being perlite or vermiculite - for aeration.
            As loose as some of the grow medium is that you are using - gravity and watering will eventually compact your mix - making it difficult for your roots.
            Not sure about the other things you asked about - don't use them.
            Yellow leaves is the newest growth.

            Before you are ready for them - your plants should soon begin to shoot up pistils.

          • nextpablo420
            nextpablo420 commented
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            How can i add perlite to this soil.
            I transplanted them 2,e days before
            They are still in shock
            Should i transplant them twice?

          #7
          They look good to me. Pots are to big for an auto, plant I believe will try to grow roots instead of plant material. Otherwise everything looks good, but If they were mine I would feed a little and when transplanting add something to aerate that soil.
          Cool grows 2x4x5 tent for flowering cycle. This is a decent low cost tent
          Mars Hydro Tsl-2000 led grow light
          AC Infinity 6 inch exhaust fan vented straight to outdoors
          Inkbird ITC-1000f temperature controller
          6 inch monkey fan
          Vivosun 2x4x5 tent for veg cycle. To many light leaks for it to be a flower tent
          2- Bloomspect 600 watt led burple lights.
          Ac infinity 4 inch exhaust fan
          Vivosun 4 inch carbon filter
          Inkbird ITC-1000F temperature controller
          6 inch Monkey fan
          4x4x6.5 Zazzy tent
          2 Bloomspect 600 led lights
          2 Mars Hydro TS600W led lights
          Ac Infinity 6 inch exhaust fan
          Vivosun 6 inch carbon filter
          Inkbird ITC-1000F temperature controller
          6 inch Vivosun oscillating fan
          Honeywell fan
          Hm digital Ph-80 Ph pen
          Foxfarm trio of nutrients
          Fishsh!t
          Foxfarm Happy frog soil
          Foxfarm Ocean forest soil.

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          • nextpablo420
            nextpablo420 commented
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            Should i add perlite to aerate that soil?

          • Booger789
            Booger789 commented
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            That would be a yes to your question. Aerate some soil into a smaller pot and then transplant the plant into that pot. And once settled in feed them.
            Last edited by Booger789; 03-25-2020, 11:25 PM.

          • Booger789
            Booger789 commented
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            Yes I get notifications of your replies. It’s your choice if you want to transplant or not. I give advice on what I would do if they were mine. If that plant was mine I would transplant to a pot with aerated soil. Just giving advice based on my experience. Yes autos can be stunted by transplanting. But they can be stunted by soil that is to compacted.

          #8
          Transplant once again 😟
          I transplanted (which should not be done in auto because it effect yields by 5 to 10%, my mistake) them 2,3 days before and now they have started growing again after a little shock.
          Should i transplant them again.
          Won't it will give them shock again 🥶🥶

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          • Canuck147
            Canuck147 commented
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            Don't transplant again.

          #9
          Hey! I was wondering does a user gets notification when someone replies to a post they have replied

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          • nextpablo420
            nextpablo420 commented
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            Yeah i get notifications for whats going on my post
            But do you guys get notifications of only comments or both my comments and reply in my post??

          • FunkyButtLovin
            FunkyButtLovin commented
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            Now that I have made a comment in your thread, I will get a notification every time anyone else posts a comment or a reply.

          • nextpablo420
            nextpablo420 commented
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            Okay cool

          #10
          What about size guys?
          Are they tiny or growing good as for 17+(3 days for sprouting)
          For Autoflowering big devil xl

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          • Booger789
            Booger789 commented
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            I have had so/so luck with autos. Really depends on genetics, I have grown some that stayed small and still yielded 3 ounces of quality smoke, best I have done with an auto is 4.5 ounces out of one plant. But I only grow autos usually outside during our growing season in the USA.

          • Canuck147
            Canuck147 commented
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            Average size - should be putting out pistils in a couple of weeks or sooner.

          • nextpablo420
            nextpablo420 commented
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            Pistils 😳
            They are about a finger big
            I thought that they will grow at least 1.5 feet
            As the size of this plant was 4 to 5 feet (120-150cm) on its seed pack

          #11
          nextpablo420 that package with the picture of full grown plant was grown under perfect conditions, it shows what that plant could be not what you right now are doing. I have no doubt you got great veggie soil we are in marijuana land here. It needs very light airy soil lots of perilite to allow drainage and air to not compact soil during watering. We would like to see you do good with your plants. First time a person grows sometimes they get lucky, most the time it's just half way decent at best.
          Autos will flower in 3wks to 5wks from seed really quickly this is why everything needs to be as perfect environment as can be.
          Be nice Be humble Smoke Ganja create Peace Respect Nature

          Soil grower with coco/perlite mixed in
          indoor/outdoor grower
          1 4x4x8 tent -veg.& flower - 2 450 viparspectar
          1 3x3x6 tent- seedlings veg t-5, CFL 54watt w/reflector- viparspectar 450 veg. light only

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            #12
            Due to complete lockdown in india i have decided not to transplant my plants because i cant buy perlite or any other soil loosening agent
            If there is any alternative then please suggest

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              #13
              I can reduce soil of my pot though
              If it is must
              Please tell

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                #14
                The issue I see with your soil is it seems high in clay which is ok to have but not in large quantities.. good for farms.. not much for weed.. next time look more into solid for weed.. coco coir is large portions of it for only 17 days your plants are ok.. they need training but can become large with training..
                I think you may need a larger light if you plan on growing large plants.. I’m not familiar with yours though most of the time I find one high end light is better then 4 mid range.. I’ll pm you in a min

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                • nextpablo420
                  nextpablo420 commented
                  Editing a comment
                  Lights i will be using are
                  For veg
                  6500k cool light led about 250 true watts
                  6500k cool light cfl 5×25watt(true), 2×70 watt (true)
                  Total 265watts
                  Means total 515watts(true) cool white 6500k

                  And for flowering time

                  I will add about 3 bulbs of 50 (true) watt warm white led bulbs 5000 lumens each (2700k) -- 150watts total
                  And 4 20 watt (true) warm white 2000 lumens each 2700k To fill the blind spots --80watts total.
                  Total 230 true watts warm white 2700k

                  So a total of 515 watts and 230 watts for flowering
                  TOTAL 745 watts(true) light
                  Expecting 500grams dry yeild

                  I know its lots of light
                  Thatswhy i have used xl pots and will use good amount of NPK

                #15
                Lights i will be using are
                For veg
                6500k (4,5)cool light led bulb of 50 watts normal led household bulbs
                about 250 watts (true)

                6500k cool light cfl 5×25watt(true), 2×70 watt (true)
                Total 265watts
                Means total 515watts(true) cool white 6500k i will be using are
                For veg
                6500k cool light led about 250 true watts
                6500k cool light cfl 5×25watt(true), 2×70 watt (true)
                Total 265watts
                Means total 515watts(true) cool white 6500k

                And for flowering time
                • I will add about 3 bulbs of 50 (true) watt warm white led bulbs 5000 lumens each (2700k) -- 150watts total
                • And 4 20 watt (true) warm white 2000 lumens each 2700k To fill the blind spots --80watts total.
                • Total 230 true watts warm white 2700k
                So a total of 515 watts and 230 watts for flowering
                TOTAL 745 watts(true) light
                Expecting 500grams dry yeild

                I know its lots of light
                Thatswhy i have used xl pots and will use good amount of NPK

                Comment

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