White ash versus black ash

[alltatup]

Hey fam, I've been reading a little about this topic and I want to know more. Does anyne know? I did flush my first DWC grow, but he nly for 24 hours. My ash is black, and I wanna do better.

[Green75]

this is where a stripper/flushing agent is key!! works way better than plain water on getting built up salts out of plant and whatever medium is being used....

[kingfish]

I wouldn't mind trying that Green. Could you recommend a brand name please ?

[Green75]

this is what I use..love it..use it throughout whole grow...it really changes the ball game..

[alltatup]

Thanks, Green I will try that; so you get white ash????? Or is this black vs white ash thing invalid?

[Green75]

Almost all white...super fkn smooth

[Green75]

that is what allows me to go full strength on nutes for my autos and photos...... my new revised plan.... feed....... ph water with calmag and stalk hardener...... stripper... feed and so on..... the water round and the stripper round keeps me clean and allows no nute blockage or build up...due to to much salt...when they do get nute burned they are fixed by start of new cycle....

[South Sierra Dude]

I've been running full strength nutes with a similar system.

[kingfish]

Thanks Green. I give it a try.

[Green75]

great minds grow great weed...or think alike ...or something..haha

[Karlee]

I have white ash and do flush with just ph'd water for the week , I didn't want to cough with smoking it , I don't it works.

I still want to try the Emerald nutrients because I like the size of those buds I see. But I am avoiding *extra's, just because I can't afford it all.

[alltatup]

Thanks, Karlee. Bubblehead: does that mean you're a DWC grower? You flush for a week? What do the leaves look like after a week flush? I'm very curious.

[alltatup]

I'm still asking my original question about white ash vs black ash. Is this a myth? Is it a fact? How much has to do with final flush? With over-feeding? With cure?

[9fingerleafs]

Even moisture in the bud will cause the ash to be black

[alltatup]

So it's not a bad thing? If bud is cured and stored at 62% RH, we should expect to have black ash cuz we don't want to dry it out completely???? Tryna understand here...

[9fingerleafs]

Perfectly dried and cured bud WILL always produce black and white ash. But if it where completely dry it would be just white. But that doesn't make it a better bud. You can do a little experiment to understands better. Take a rolling paper and burn it with the lighter. The ashes should be just white. Then get another rolling paper and lick it all over. then burn it and compare ashes. Anything not dry enough is gonna end up black and carbonized. Just like the process for wood to make charcoal. Even on a bond fire you can see dry wood burning perfectly leaving behind just white ash. And the very green and moist wood burns irregularly leaving dark patches and creating smoke

[Karlee]

Hi Alltaup

It's all good dude! Are you getting close to a harvest?

Basically the flush is to make the plant use up any nutrients in it's system so (maybe) the smoke won't be harsh to smoke. I think it's a good thing to try because we want it mellow not harsh. Nothing is written in stone about any the best way to grow and cure your pot.

Some people leave it in the dark the last couple days before they harvest, we're writing the book here what does and doesn't work!

http://www.growweedeasy.com/flushing

[Green75]

I know your a woman with sleeve tatts...I pay attention

[Karlee]

I'm sorry alltatup I'll always say Dudette for you!

I picture a BIG tatted biker with you LOL

[alltatup]

Ha, ha, ha!! Dudette is cool, and I do have a bicycle. Sir Green, you get a gold star for paying attention!!! Oh, heck, I'ma give Karlee a gold star too...

[Green75]

right out of my jar into pipe..

[Karlee]

I want some now!

Alltat if you smoke right out of the jar say 62% it's got moisture and it won't all burn and be black leave it out over night and it dries and turns white. Thats the mystery you're looking for I'm sure. in fact all you want is the thc off that flower so the leaf is just not needed but helps hang on to THC Have you vaped before? Look whats left when you do LOL

[alltatup]

Karlee, I vape most of the time, but when my buddies come over, I stuff those cones. Gotta pass the CB (caucasian blunt). I am expecting company tomorrow, so I will leave some bud out--in a cool, dark place, and prepare the bong and cones for major ash production. I trimmed all my buds before I dried and cured: see my bud from my first grow? Next one will be much bigger, dog willing and the creek don't rise...

[Karlee]

Your picture looks delectable my dear! To be on the safe side - Kiss the dog and buy some waders! (dog willing and the creek don't rise...) I love it!!!!

[Green75]

Other ways to tell if flushing could of been done better...crackling noises when put to flame and hit on..real strong immediate cough as soon as you light and start to inhale...

White ash is not tell all really...just good indicator

I've hit some real smooth weed that did not turn white so who knows...

[alltatup]

I don't hear any strange noises, but I do see little fairies and elves flitting all around the room... I'm leaving some bud out tonight to see if that makes a difference tomorrow.

[alltatup]

Here is the willing dog!

[Karlee]

It's all good, wonderful mascot.

[9fingerleafs]

Just as I was smoking some of my recent harvest. Not flushed right. I only actually flushed once and I had no leaf discoloration. Also is not well cured yet. But I put a cupple of bud in a container with desiccant and rolled a joint. Look how well it burns. And the ashes are completely white. Well dried buds grind well and burn well = white ashes

[9fingerleafs]

Yes that's the kind of container. It works very well until it stops working. On the RH I wouldn't exactly say certain percentage is better than another for smoking. But definitely burn better after a few hours in desiccant. Curing needs that little moisture left to occur. But to smoke a little bit in the meanwhile it works great.

[alltatup]

Thanks for all the info, 9fingerleafs!!! Gonna try it out today.

[9fingerleafs]

You are very welcome. Good luck

[alltatup]

9fingerleafs Sorry it's blurry!! This was the ash from last night's smoke-along. I appreciate very much the tips for using the little dessicant packs!!!