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    #76
    Update 35b: 10.12.21
    I did a bit of clean up on undergrowth this morning before the light went out. The Banana Kush is smelling like you just stuck your head in a Dole banana box. The Chocolate Mint is ramping up her olfactory work as well and the tent is smelling... DELICIOUS!
    "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
    GWE4ME

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    • TOKABIGONE
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      the only thing I order from Dairy Queen is a lg chocolate/banana milk shake. Can't wait to sample your flavoring if it tastes like it smells

    #77
    Update 36: 10.14.21 Week 2 Day 4 (11 days) into flowering
    About the only thing that has happened since the last update is that I have been doing daily selective defoliation to keep flowering growth tips as exposed as possible. Here's a photo compilation from today when the lights came on. First pic is a flash to expose all of those growth tips... Individual images will be labeled. As always, the Banana Kush is on the left and the Chocolate Mint OG is on the right:

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    Banana Kush Flowering Week 2 day 4 (below)
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    Chocolate Mint OG (below)
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    Next photo update once the girls have reached Week 3 Day 1
    Happy Pharming!
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    "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
    GWE4ME

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      #78
      Update 37: October 16, 2021
      I wasn’t planning on doing any updates until week 3 day 1 but I did a big defoliation today 2 days early and thought I should document it in the grow journal. So without further adieu here are the girls with their week 3 trim up a little ahead of time. A quick cursory count of flowering growth tips range between 48 and 60 per plant.
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      Banana Kush - flowering day 13

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      Chocolate Mint OG - Flowering day 13

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      "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
      GWE4ME

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      • BU2B
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        SoOrbudgal were down to counting weeks to go, I’m getting a bit excited

      • Ckbrew
        Ckbrew commented
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        Have you culled out the growth tips lower on the plant that will not get full light yet?

      • BU2B
        BU2B commented
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        Ckbrew pretty much. I may have a few left that will have to go in the next week. But they’re both pretty much cleared out of smaller branches. The next week or so and those will go too. I want them open to light all the way to main branches. 38 flowering growth tips with at least 6 inches of flower packets will be pretty darn close to a lb per plant dried and cured.
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      #79
      when you count bud sites are you counting down the stems or just tops? If down, I think I have about 35 on one and 25 on the other.
      Started 9/9/21: 2nd grow: Hawaii Sativa MAUI auto x 2 (had 1 no show)
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      • BU2B
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        I'm counting actual flowering branches not flowering packets on branches. But with that many bud sprouts I see full branches of fat buds in your future 😎
        Last edited by BU2B; 10-17-2021, 04:20 AM.

      • TOKABIGONE
        TOKABIGONE commented
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        So your saying each of the flower sites at nodes will grow a branch of colas? Thanks Swami!

      #80
      Update 38: 10.17-18.21
      With the light coming on this evening the girls have started Week 3 Day 1 of Flowering. From this point on I will refer to the age of the plant in flowering mode - no more "of Flowering".
      So far so good, things are coming along right on schedule and the girls are looking happy and healthy. Here's a few photo's with and without flash.
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      Banana Kush in front, Chocolate Mint OG - back right.
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      Week 3 Day 1
      "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
      GWE4ME

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        #81
        TOKABIGONE to better show what I'm saying... you want your bud packets to be all together if possible (e.g., green) and not so much like the red where the same amount of flower is spread out. Buds tend to be smaller if allowed to grow out on stalks of their own. When I was referring to seeing fat buds in your future I meant buds like the green one in the example below. What I’m counting as flowering growth tips will develop into flowering branches shown in the picture. Some branches have bud packets more spread out like the branch circled in red. This generally happens when the plant does not get enough light to newly forming flowers. The plant will push them out on their own branch trying to get light to the flowers. It’s my grow I’m showing - so I’m free to critique. I hope this is clearer than mud - but if not let me know (i have word combinations I haven’t used yet) 😃
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        "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
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          #82
          BU2B , in post #78 banana kush, there are multiple small leaf stem bases from leaves that were pruned off and are sitting on top of the lid to the bucket. I have encountered this as most people probably have, during trimming and have found some of these little leaf bases still attached to the main stem, but are tan to brownish. Now most of these are just plain dried out and fall off readily. Occasionally I will find one that is brown and still soft and containing water particularly at the base where it is attached.

          I am pondering if such a dead leaf stem sitting inside a juicy bud might be a source of mole contamination due to it being damp dead plant material, and acting as a growth medium for mold spores and thereby contributing to mold and bud rot. If this would be the case, it would be a good argument to say that such leaf stems should be removed during pruning as opposed to leaving them in the bud. Any thoughts on this? Anyone else want to chime in on this theory? Just spit balling here.
          Don't worry, be happy, grow sticky buds.

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            #83
            Ckbrew I never cut the leaves close to the plant. I've always left a longer stem on the leaves that eventually dries and falls off. Where I live the humidity is about 20-25% so dead plant parts dry up and fall off quickly. I have found those leaf stems to be of more use than harm. IF any leaf stems are left when the bud is done I find that even though they are brown they are not rotten or mouldy, just dried out - and help the bud dry a little slower. You can also use those leaf steams as a judge for how big around your bud is and give you an idea of how much it has filled in or has yet to go.
            "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
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              #84
              Just a note: I think most of us are good at what we do, being creatures of habit we learn to adjust things as needed to get the job done. I am not quite so confident that given new circumstances we would be up to our own standard until we learned the adjustment factors. I can grow great in low humidity with hydro, even with heat, but toss me into a Smoklahoma type environment with 80% humidity and it's quite likely to be a different story. At least at first. The good thing about BU2B's PPP method is that it's independent of environment and is a simple matter of taking a bit more attention with your plants to establish the needed structure to support and produce a lb of flowers.
              "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
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                #85
                Right on BU2B everyone dials into their own enviornment or tries to, lots of adjustments are needed and made in the first few grows. Believe or not i plan and prepare way ahead and try an time it best for the season. Hydro would scare the heck out of me in OK, TN how it gets done is amazing.
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                indoor/outdoor grower
                1 36"x36"x66" tent- Viparspectra P2500
                1 3x3x6 tent- used in late spring for seedlings both veggies & weed. I have 2 viparspectar 450r for that tent.
                I use a t-5 & 54watt CFL for seedlings
                Sometimes i use plastic sometimes i use fabric grow containers
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                  #86
                  Update 38b: Week 3 Day 2/3
                  Okay now it’s official I guess. 5 - 6 more weeks to go. The girls got their Huge 3 week haircut. No more big defoliations until harvest day. From this point until the girls are down to their last 7-10 days, leaves will be folded under of tucked away if possible. After the end of this week the girls will have only about two weeks in which they will make leaves. Leaf production is pretty much over with by the end of week 5. Since the start of flowering both plants have only stretched 5 inches so far. They were 15 inches tall at the start of flowering and both plants are currently 20 inches tall with over 40 flowering branches per plant.
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                  "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
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                    #87
                    We are stardust, we are golden, we are 10 billion year old carbon, and we've got to get ourselves back to the garden
                    Attached animated gif. Week 3 Day 4
                    As always - BK left, CMOG right
                    Next photo and grow update week 4 Day 1 (Monday 10.25.21 after 6pm MST)
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                    "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
                    GWE4ME

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                    • Gracey
                      Gracey commented
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                      BU2B, We are and we do
                      Toka, me too! Now I wish I had known then.

                    • Ckbrew
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                      It was the devil's bargain that made you miss it.

                    • TOKABIGONE
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                      Nah Ckbrew it was the damn VN "Police Action" that made me miss Woodstock! I had to see the new then movie when I returned in early '70.

                    #88
                    Update 39: Week 3 Day 6. 10.23.21

                    i moved the girls and put BK to the back and CMOG up front. She’s a wee bit shorter than her sister but completely different growth and with her up close I can remove leaves as needed a bit easier. Chocolate Mint OG is now front left and the Banana Kush is in back right corner.
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                    "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
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                      #89
                      WHAZZA SCHWAZZER ??
                      It was not until I actually started writing out and trying to pin down my method that I even heard of SCHWAZZING. I found out by accident that I (and I'm sure many others) had been schwazzing before it was even a term. So what the heck is Schwazzing? It's basically a guideline for timed defoliation of your plants to increase yield. The big thing about schwazzing that everyone has been doing for some time that are two staples to the process are:
                      A) Big defoliation just before flowering
                      B) Even bigger defoliation at or during week 3 then fold and tuck leaves and spread out your plant as much as possible.
                      .
                      Most people do this to clean up their plants in preparation for flowering - to open their plants up, and then again around week 3 when bud-sites are well developed and easy to identify and it's easier to see which leaves will be covering what. If you do that - I think you too are a SCHWAZZER even if you didn't know it - AND it didn't cost you $500 for the Schwazzing Bible (Which I've only seen on 'the profit').
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                      I really don't know the schwazzing details but I personally leave more leaves on my plants when defoliating than most. I think you need to have leaves to help feed those fat happy buds. You do however, have to use your discretion when it comes to defoliating. I find I usually take twice as many leaves during the week 3 defoliation than during the initial prep for flowering defoliation. My goal for the first defoliation before flowering is to open the plant up and let light into growth tips- once those growth tips are established as flowering branches; then I remove any large fan leaves, clean out undergrowth and try to leave enough leaves for the next 5 weeks. During the last 2 weeks or so I remove the majority of all leaves that have grown out of buds and begin cleaning them up a little each day in preparation for harvest.
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                      The girls are looking great so far, it looks like if I can keep them spread out I will see a few 10-14 inch bud packets on a good number of branches. BK is the tallest right now at 22 inches and neither plant has stretched much at all in the last several days, so it looks like 5-6 inches was it. Which works for me - usually means closer bud packets. CMOG is getting a bit frosty Photo update coming tomorrow Week 4 day 1 (22 days into flowering)
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                      Thanks for coming along for the ride - the scenery gets better from here to the end of the trip.
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                      "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
                      GWE4ME

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                      • Ckbrew
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                        Nice to see them grow up and mature.

                      #90
                      Update 40: 10.25.21 Week 4 Day 1

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                      Almost halfway done - about 5 weeks to go!
                      Last edited by BU2B; 10-26-2021, 04:33 AM.
                      "I can't stop thinking big, I can't stop thinking big. In a world where I feel so small. I can't stop thinking big." Caravan | RUSH
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                      • SoOrbudgal
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                        Just beautiful full ladies such a healthy grow love it

                      • Ckbrew
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                        I'm really interested to see how this finishes out. I would have thought that this is way to crowded. You the man so I will watch and learn.

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