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    #16
    Looks good man. I'll be following along. I'm waiting on an answer back but it looks like I'll be doing a test on a new light, new light in a 4x4 and my lights in another 4x4 doing a side by side test with clones, same feed same training. And when I'm done I have an 1800dollar light so it's worth my time I think.

    Keep us updated we'll be here watching. Just subscribed now.
    Vegging 4 aurora indica, waiting on seeds. Got eyes on a 4x8x8 tent.
    sp150x2 philz330 and Philz 100x2
    4 plants currently under 500w
    2 x opulent systems 4x4x80 tents and a 24x40x48 baby box.
    GH full line of nutes+calmag and my molasses sugar brown sugar liquid mix at 30ml per liter.
    Happy growing/consuming šŸ„“
    Space is at a premium when you're growing premium in space šŸ˜

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    • JohnEmad
      JohnEmad commented
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      That sounds like a sweet deal.

    • SoOrbudgal
      SoOrbudgal commented
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      Good for you Jordann

    • CaptainWiese91
      CaptainWiese91 commented
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      Thanks for the comment !
      What is the name of the light you are having ?

      Yea I have weekly updates on this grow and the two lamps šŸ˜Ž

    #17
    Weekly update!
    The last plants under the Lumatek got their first topping a few days ago. And they are actually growing bigger than my Vipar plants, the main stem is thicker on the lumatek plants than on the vipar plants, even though the lumatek plants are 16-18 days younger than the others.. So the Lumatek lamp is doing a pretty good job! They like the light !

    Some plants under the viper already got their second topping. So they are actually pretty set to go! I will get 6 main colas and this I what I was going for. They just need to get bigger now - my job is almost done with the training on these.

    The mutant is ready. No more topping either. I made 8 colas on the mutant, because i didnā€™t have the ā€œextraā€ nodes on it, like the other normal plants.

    They are still only getting water with cal mag, no nutes at all. And they love the tomato soil. 5$ dollar soil, incredible!

    Thanks for everyone who are following this experiment and this grow !
    Happy growing Capt.
    Just because people are over 50 doesnā€™t mean they know everything.
    You can teach a old dog new tricks - But it will still think the old ways are the ā€œbestā€ lol

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    • JDU
      JDU commented
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      Lookin good Amigo!
      & thanks a million for the tomato soil tip!!! Not only did I find the best dirt out there - At a nursery- $25/yd but it grounded me. My plants are doin SOOOO MUCH BETTER since I relaxed & just gardened.
      Btw I'm gonna laugh my ass off when your little mutant out produces em all!!!

    • CaptainWiese91
      CaptainWiese91 commented
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      Yea they are doing actually pretty good. Thanks !

      Iā€™m happy to hear your plants are doing much better - seems like you got the right soil šŸ˜ŽšŸ˜. Not bad at all ! And a good price also !

      If this mutant is going to be the biggest producer- Iā€™m laughing my ass of toošŸ˜‚
      It seems like every time I have a ā€œfavoriteā€ plant in the grow. It always ending up with another plant that is doing so much better or produces more. So Iā€™ve stopped the game of having a ā€œfavoriteā€

    #18
    Weekly update !
    currently week 6 for the Vipar plants (purple light)
    and week 4 for the Lumatek plants (yellowā€™ish light)

    Im done with the last topping! Wee!! Now I just need to use LST the rest of the veg grow and Iā€™m adjusting daily. You can see the stems on the new grow after the 2. Topping on the lumatek plants, are not long enough to be tied down and away from each other, but I give it 3-6 days and then I can do it.
    they are currently growing pretty well!

    Still hasnā€™t used any kind of nutrients yet. ONLY cal-mag so far and some voodoo juice. I was expecting to start using some soon, but the plants are healthy and they are not showing any kind of deficiency yet, so Iā€™m not going to give it them.

    Lumatek lamp is doing a really great job !! I still think itā€™s worth the money ! And even more worth the money than the vipar spectra.
    the plants seems to like this kind of light a bit more than the blue/red/white light from the viparspectra.

    15-20 days younger are the lumatek plants. And still the main stems are thicker and bigger than the viparspectra plants.

    From now on I just need to let them grow and adjust the LST, I have enough room, so Iā€™m thinking they need to be double the size, they have now.
    maybe going to take whole august before I flip to 12/12 šŸ¤”

    Thanks to everyone who are following this grow and experiment with these two lamps !

    happy growing Capt.
    Just because people are over 50 doesnā€™t mean they know everything.
    You can teach a old dog new tricks - But it will still think the old ways are the ā€œbestā€ lol

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    • alltatup
      alltatup commented
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      Wow, I like it!! Awesome job!! I'm following Nugbuckets' tutorial.

    • CaptainWiese91
      CaptainWiese91 commented
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      I loved the tutorial šŸ‘šŸ»
      And took the things from it I could use, and now Iā€™m just trying to experiment with it.
      I think I did a quad line on most of them. Letā€™s see how it will work out šŸ˜…

      Many thanks šŸ˜Š

    #19
    oldjarhead100
    Just because people are over 50 doesnā€™t mean they know everything.
    You can teach a old dog new tricks - But it will still think the old ways are the ā€œbestā€ lol

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      #20
      My last 2 ā€œweeklyā€ updates have been removed ?
      Well i canā€™t see them??

      fuck it !

      So itā€™s week 10 for the Vipar plants and week 8 for Lumatek plants.

      I switched to 12/12 yesterday. So from now on I will count ā€œdays after switchā€ instead of ā€œweeksā€

      Day 1 after 12/12
      I decided to make the switch because they stems are fairly thick actually and I think (and hope) they will produce some nice colas.

      STILL no nutrients have been added. Amazing if I must say. Spared all my veg nutes this round with a soil for 4-5$ a bag,
      I do have noticed a little potassium deficiency on one of the Lumatek plants, nothing Iā€™m worried for, because Iā€™m adding some CANNA PK 13/14 next feeding, not much just a 1/4 strength.
      But 8-10 weeks without nutrients is really good !

      As I mentioned in the start of the grow. Doing a main line is my first time. I always just topped once with a combination of defoliation and lollipop. I gained huge amount of experience this grow already because of the mainline and now I know what to do 100% correct next grow, which was also the reason why a flipped the switch yesterday. Because I know I can do it better next time, so why not finish a little earlier.

      9 plants of the same strain and none are drinking the same amount of water. šŸ˜‚ some drinks really a lot, they like the cal mag and voodo juice. And some only wants the half amount of water. A little more attention needs to be done with 9 instead of 5 plants.

      Plants already have female parts because of the long veg period, so I expect to see flowering parts within 4-6 days.

      Todays round with pictures is mostly from above. The bud porn
      begin in a couple of weeks.

      Thanks !
      Just because people are over 50 doesnā€™t mean they know everything.
      You can teach a old dog new tricks - But it will still think the old ways are the ā€œbestā€ lol

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      #21
      Looking good CaptainWiese91 how's the weather in your parts? We are on the downward side of summer quickly feeling like fall in a.m.
      Smoke Ganja create Peace Respect Nature don't trash the Planet

      Soil grower with coco/perlite mixed in
      indoor/outdoor grower
      1 36"x36"x66" tent- Viparspectra P2500
      1 3x3x6 tent- used in late spring for seedlings both veggies & weed. I have 2 viparspectar 450r for that tent.
      I use a t-5 & 54watt CFL for seedlings
      Sometimes i use plastic sometimes i use fabric grow containers
      Currently using fish/guano during veg growth & FF Grow Big 6-4-4 teens to bloom. Once i see pre-flower i switch to
      Age Old Organics Bloom 5-10-5

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      • CaptainWiese91
        CaptainWiese91 commented
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        Thanks budgal šŸ˜Š.
        30 Celsius everyday šŸ™„. And in the tent itā€™s around 28-30 Celsius right now, so I hope they are going to take the heat pretty well, and not hermie on me šŸ™šŸ»šŸ˜…šŸ˜…

        Feeling like fall already? Damn. We will have 25-30 Celsius through out October...

      #22
      Sound wonderful those temps, i do like it on the warmer side. I keep checking my outdoor reveg photos for a hermie and not a one so far.
      Smoke Ganja create Peace Respect Nature don't trash the Planet

      Soil grower with coco/perlite mixed in
      indoor/outdoor grower
      1 36"x36"x66" tent- Viparspectra P2500
      1 3x3x6 tent- used in late spring for seedlings both veggies & weed. I have 2 viparspectar 450r for that tent.
      I use a t-5 & 54watt CFL for seedlings
      Sometimes i use plastic sometimes i use fabric grow containers
      Currently using fish/guano during veg growth & FF Grow Big 6-4-4 teens to bloom. Once i see pre-flower i switch to
      Age Old Organics Bloom 5-10-5

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      • CaptainWiese91
        CaptainWiese91 commented
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        Some days itā€™s too hot. But then I have cold beer in the basement šŸ˜Ž.

        I sure donā€™t hope they will hermie on youšŸ™šŸ»

      #23
      Weekly update! Week 2 after 12/12
      I have white pistils every where. They already showed up 2-3 days ago. So now Iā€™m currently in bloom phase ! So far sĆ³ good !

      Not much to say. They stretch a huge amount right now - 70 indica/ 30 Sativa- This is where the Sativa is showing up. And they should keep stretching for the next week or two also šŸ™šŸ»

      Iā€™m feeding 6,5ML CANNA 13/14 in a 6 Liter bottle, and each plant get between 1,5-2,0 Liter every two watering, or else itā€™s just normal cal mag in the other feedings.

      Some pictures also of course. You can see where all my main buds are going to bešŸ˜Ž. Most of the 9 plants is the same height, maybe one or two is a little bit higher- But itā€™s almost an even canopy
      I made a defoliation 3 days ago and you canā€™t even see it. So 2-4 days I will be doing the next defoliation again.
      Happy growing !
      capt
      Just because people are over 50 doesnā€™t mean they know everything.
      You can teach a old dog new tricks - But it will still think the old ways are the ā€œbestā€ lol

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        #24
        Looking good my friend.

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        • CaptainWiese91
          CaptainWiese91 commented
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          Many thanks champ šŸ˜Ž.

        #25
        A small update.
        week 3 after 12/12 will start tomorrow.

        They are coming along nicely!

        as for the experiment with the two lights.
        The lumatek is clearly the winner over the Viparspectra in the Veg period.
        Faster growth. Bigger stems and leaves even though the lumatek plants are younger.
        But the grow isnā€™t over yet and now the two lights will compete for buds overall looking and density.
        This will be fun to see šŸ˜Ž.

        happy growing !!
        Just because people are over 50 doesnā€™t mean they know everything.
        You can teach a old dog new tricks - But it will still think the old ways are the ā€œbestā€ lol

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        • CaptainWiese91
          CaptainWiese91 commented
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          Good afternoon here šŸ˜.
          The Blue/purple light is the Viparspectra. The yellowish is the lumatek.
          Thank you for the kind words! They are growing so fast - Iā€™m doing something right šŸ˜

        • FunkyButtLovin
          FunkyButtLovin commented
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          Keep up the thoughts on the light please. I'm as interested in the Attis light insight as I am in the plants this time. I've got some Fat Banana Autos in the mail somewhere and will probably run 'em sometime in the next 6 months.

        • CaptainWiese91
          CaptainWiese91 commented
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          Yea of course ! The buds will tell in 8 weeks aproxima.
          Until now Iā€™m pretty happy for the lamp šŸ‘šŸ»

          Just harvested 10 fat banana autos throughout this summer. Loved the smoke šŸ‘šŸ»

        #26
        Week 4 after 12/12
        week 3 in bloom !

        So they are growing nicely, canā€™t complain. Not much to say either.
        The buds are growing and getting bigger.
        Cal mag water on watering feedings. Aprox. 15 ML in 6 Liter.
        the other days they are getting 5-6ML CANNA in a 6 Liter bottle. And every plant receive 2,0-2,3 Liter of water in both feedings.

        and some pictures of course !
        happy growing Capt.
        Just because people are over 50 doesnā€™t mean they know everything.
        You can teach a old dog new tricks - But it will still think the old ways are the ā€œbestā€ lol

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          #27
          They're looking good. I'm on week 5 of veg on my fat bananas but they're less than 7" tall but fairly bushy and I was planning on flipping them in a weeks time. Did yours stay fairly squat but wide? And how much have they stretched since start of flower?
          3'x3'x6' Secret Jardin grow tent
          Fox 6" carbon filter and fan with acoustic ducting
          Kocheal 2000w (actual 255w) Led
          Couple of fans for airflow
          First grow 2x RQS Fat Banana 1 x Silver leaf Critical crack og. All photo
          Soil, plain multi purpose compost with perlite added
          Nutrients - Bio Bizz Calmag, Grow and Bloom.

          Yellow under blurple makes fluorescent orange šŸ˜€

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          • CaptainWiese91
            CaptainWiese91 commented
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            Do you use any kind of training technique? Or do you just let them grow ?
            As for the estimated height- it never fits. I never look at the breeders info about height and such stuff. Because it all depends on how long you beg the plants. What type of growing medium and environment you are using.

          • buds73
            buds73 commented
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            I've topped them once at around the 6th node i think and done a little bit of light lst. Had a couple of issues in the first couple of weeks, high temps in a cupboard, light dropping on plant etc so i pretty sure it's a little stunted even though they appeared to be growing well and iv'e not had any signs of deficiencies This is my first grow so i'm learning as i go. Reading this forum and this site in general has almost become a hobby in itself. I have 3 Fb seeds left so they will be my next grow just trying to dial everything in on this one now.

          • CaptainWiese91
            CaptainWiese91 commented
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            Itā€™s pretty normal to have some issues long the way in the first grow. Keep up the research and listen to the mistakes. Then it will go pretty fast forward every grow

          #28
          Week 4 of bloom tomorrow!

          itā€™s going great ! Actually too great in my opinion šŸ˜‚
          so I did a control check on every plant. And I cut back the CANNA PK for 2 feedings now. They donā€™t need all the nutrients, so incredible stupid just to load them with nutrients...
          And they are growing so fast, buds are starting to fatten up. Love it.

          any questions? Just ask ! Thank you for following!

          As for the two lights ! The lumatek is doing a great job in the start of the flower phase. The Vipar started out good, with bigger buds. But now itā€™s even size almost all round the 9 plants.
          Will be so fucking fun too see which lamps produce the best looking buds !

          happy growing Capt !
          Just because people are over 50 doesnā€™t mean they know everything.
          You can teach a old dog new tricks - But it will still think the old ways are the ā€œbestā€ lol

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          • SoOrbudgal
            SoOrbudgal commented
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            It's like a horse race now who will be at the finish line first. Really fun grow CaptainWiese91

          • CaptainWiese91
            CaptainWiese91 commented
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            Yea You are actually right.
            First to harvest and prettiest budsšŸ˜Ž.
            4-5 weeks more, Iā€™m hopefully done

          #29
          buds73 I will be measuring the plants height tomorrow. You got me hooked on how tall they really arešŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚.
          Just because people are over 50 doesnā€™t mean they know everything.
          You can teach a old dog new tricks - But it will still think the old ways are the ā€œbestā€ lol

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          • buds73
            buds73 commented
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            Haha, it will be come your new thing. My one has grown 2 inches in the last week and now stands at 9 inches lol.

          • CaptainWiese91
            CaptainWiese91 commented
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            I will measure in CM, but it could be just fun to watch how big they are šŸ˜…

          #30
          Week 5 of bloom!
          well I was expecting to be done in week 7, it when I look at my plants - thatā€™s not going to happen. I have at least 3-4 weeks left, which is a shitty thing. But you canā€™t rush nature right ?

          plantā€™s are doing fine, some having some minor issues with wind burn, and a little too much P&K - nothing to much so Iā€™m not flushing, they just get some plain PH water with some run off. No need to flush.

          Buds starting to smell pungent, earthy and pine.
          This is just a waiting game from now on, nothing much I can do beside letting them grow.
          Last edited by CaptainWiese91; 09-29-2020, 04:34 AM.
          Just because people are over 50 doesnā€™t mean they know everything.
          You can teach a old dog new tricks - But it will still think the old ways are the ā€œbestā€ lol

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          • CaptainWiese91
            CaptainWiese91 commented
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            A little slow ? What You mean ?

          • lalaland
            lalaland commented
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            You canā€™t rush nature? Just meant the timeline you had set for yourself

          • CaptainWiese91
            CaptainWiese91 commented
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            Ohh yea. Youā€™re right. But I was referring too the amount of weeks they need and not the size of them.
            I was hoping I would be done in 7 weeks total. But it seems like itā€™s going to be 8-9 weeks instead. Which disappointing, because Iā€™m depressedšŸ˜‚šŸ‘šŸ»

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