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  • mcubed476
    started a topic Quadlining

    Quadlining

    I have had a few people asking me about how I've been training my plants, so I figured I would make a thread that goes through each step. Most of my journals are just focused on if they are healthy or not, and pics of them every week.

    I'll cover the two terms I will be discussing, and then it will be story time lol.

    QUADLINING (I previously referred to this as a "double mainline") - Leaving just 2 nodes on when the plant has about 4-6 nodes. (I normally leave the 2nd and 3rd node on, but I see people on other sites leave the 3rd and 4th nodes on with good results).

    MAINLINING - Leaving only a single node on when the plant has about 4-6 nodes.

    Story time!

    I started mainlining autos after seeing green75's thread on how to do it. He also has YouTube videos on how he does it, so if a video helps you get the idea better than pics, then YouTube green75 and I'm sure you'll find what you need for mainlining an auto.

    My yields slightly improved using this technique. I was ranging anywhere from 2 to 5 oz per plant, and was pretty happy with it.

    The reason I bring up mainlining an auto is because it is what brought me to quadlining an auto. On a previous grow I decided to leave an extra node on to see how the plant would grow. I ended up with 9.8 oz off one auto, and I was ecstatic.

    I couldn't be sure if it was the strain, the seed, or the quadline that got me those results, so the next grow I did an experiment. My experiment seemed to agree with my guesstimate that quadlining indeed gave better yields than mainlining.

    So far I have quadlined 3 plants. My yields have been 9.8 oz, 4 oz, and 24.78 oz (this last one was a freak of nature. I wouldn't expect a 1.5 lbs per plant every time lol).

    It just so happens that I'm starting training for 2 of my plants, so what a good time to show everyone the process step by step.

    I have already removed the first node (coytledons do not count as a node), and I took the coytledons off too. I have heard that you aren't supposed to take off the coytledons, but I have done it on every single plant and have never had anything bad happen to the plant because of it.

    Today, I took the top node off of the White widow CBD. She's a bit bigger than the bubba cheese, and the timing seemed right to take the top node off. Once the 3rd nodes branches get a little bigger, I will start training them down. So all that's left on the White widow CBD is the 2nd and 3rd nodes. Eventually, a birds eye view of the plant will look like an x.



    I use 14 gauge electrical wire to stake the branches down. Make sure they are long enough to grab hold of the coco, or soil if thats what you're using. Sometimes I hear them ripping through roots as they are going in, but it doesn't seem to affect the plants overall health.

    I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH TO BE GENTLE WHEN BENDING AND STAKING DOWN BRANCHES. Otherwise you might end up with a triline lol. Just lightly bend them back and forth until they feel more pliable. Then gently stake them down.

    Here is where I am currently with these 2 plants. I'll update through the whole training period so people can see how it turns out.

    Any questions, don't hesitate to ask!


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    Now it's a waiting game for a bit.
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  • PhantomSulker
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    Thanks, I have had a lot of time to let them veg, I have a feeling they are going to get huge I was trying to time stuff to go in the flower tent in cycles but everything is going to be ready soon for flower and no way do I have enough room. But I will figure it out, thanks again for the tutorial. I look forward to trying on a Auto. I have some G13 Auto seeds coming and going to run all 5 at once when most of what I have going is done and will quad a few of them.

  • mcubed476
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    Thanks Spidermite! You have some good looking ones yourself!

  • mcubed476
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    You're plants are looking really good phantom! I see you are a bit more aggressive on the defoliation than I am, but that's not a bad thing! They are probably going to look like monsters after the stretch, so you will have a good harvest I think. Great job man!

  • Spidermite
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    Nice looking plants guys.

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  • PhantomSulker
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    Well here we grow, I did the last major work I plan to do to them last night and have them all straight again. Thanks for the tutorial I look forward to trying on a auto real soon. But my Gelato and Strawberry Banana's are looking pretty good. Any suggestions I am going to give them a few days to recover and get them ready to flower this is week 8 of veg for them.

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  • mcubed476
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    Very nice eigholte! That is an impressive stem! Glad to hear you're joining the cob arena! I'm glad I did!

  • Eigholte
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    This is my Royal Medic. I think she may be around 3 weeks away from harvest or so. I'll pop in to indicate how she did with the Quadline training - but I'm impressed. This one plant has mostly filled a 3' by 1.5' tent, on her own. Normally, I have two plants in there, but she didn't leave any room for a friend! (Also, I failed at cloning this go around, so maybe it's for the best that she's a beefy plant)

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    I also enjoy the COB talk. I bought all the equipment to build myself a set of 4x55W COB lights, 2 in 5000k and 2 in 4000k (3500 was out of stock, sadly). I need to get a move on and start building that, as I think light is my limiting factor right now. This Royal Medic is really only getting any density in the top 6" of the plant. It would be nice to see what happens when I at least double the light intensity (add 2 COBs) or even triple it (add 4 COBs)

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  • mcubed476
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    Congrats on ordering the cobs! I replaced my blurple light with cobs midgrow and it didn't seem to change anything. They just started growing better lol. Just make sure they are far enough away from the plants. Generally 18-24"

  • Drekthar
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    That's a pretty good haul for 3 autos. Good job
    I am following your lead, i've gone and ordered the 4 cobs from cobshop.
    SHould be ok to replace my current lights with the new cobs right away you think? I probably have 4 weeks remaining to finish this crop.

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  • mcubed476
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    Hello everyone! My harvest is finally dry, and here's the weight:

    Bubba Cheese - 178g (6.35 oz)
    White Widow CBD - 118g (4.21 oz)
    Bubba Kush 205.2g (7.32 oz)

    Total weight for the grow is 501.2g, or 17.9 oz.

    Remind me again how autos don't yield that much? 😂

    I'm very happy with this number. This grow was under 220w of light For 112 days. Cost in electricity, which is mainly my only cost because Megacrop's nutes are so cheap, was $136. This means that each oz cost me $7.60. Throw in nutes and the cost of the seed and coco, it can probably be rounded up to a solid $8/ oz.

    I love growing lol.

    Have a great weekend everyone




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  • mcubed476
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    Hey everyone, it was harvest day yesterday! I've focused on the Bubba Cheese and White Widow CBD on this grow, but I'll be including the Bubba Kush in this too. If you are reading my grow 7 journal, you will see more pics.

    They all were ready at the same time, which worked out for me because I'm able to use my tent to dry them in.

    This grow went very well, other than a few brown and yellow leaves. I'm estimating a little less than a lb, but wouldn't it be great if it was more? 😂

    I've learned a lot from this website, and I hope this thread was helpful. This site is literally the reason I started growing, and the thing that eventually led me to quadlining my plants. If you do your research on this site, you will do just fine growing. Problems will come up, but this site probably has the answers.

    Anyway, I'll post pics, and when they are dry I'll get the weight.

    They both finished at day 83


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    Bubba Kush (day 112)

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    Left to right: Bubba Cheese, Bubba Kush, White Widow CBD

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    There are 6 cubbies in the rack. Bubba Kush is taking up 3, White Widow CBD is taking up 1, and Bubba Cheese has 2. The Bubba Cheese has the most dense nugs I've ever grown. The smell in my house is wonderful right now lol
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  • mcubed476
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    Not sure how I missed this lol, sorry wizard!

    First of all, thanks! I just took them down today! I can't wait to smoke them all!

    I haven't quadlined a plant that finished in that time. I mainlined a Sweet Trainwreck that finished in 60 days, but have had other Sweet Trainwrecks that finished in 80 and were trained the same way and given the same nutes. I've found a plant finishes when it finishes, and it rarely finishes when the seed sites say it will lol. That could be because of the high stress training though.

    I haven't grown Black Cream, but I have grown a few purple strains (Red Poison, Devil Cream, Bloody Skunk). They are gorgeous to grow, but I found all mine had airy nugs, didn't get ya as high, and I didn't care for the smell. However, I would still recommend growing a purple strain at least once. They're beautiful!

    Yes, I use 3g pots. I'm curious to see how they would do in a 5g bucket. The roots on these are all wrapped around the edge of the pots.

    Good luck on your grow! I'm just getting ready to post harvest pics of these girls!

  • WizardsNThings
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    These are huuuuge! Those are 3 gallon pots? I'm just start 2 autos that are supposed to be done in 8 weeks: Black Cream and Lemon Haze OG. I'm starting seedlings for my garden so I figured I might as well throw some quick autos in there. Have you done the quadlining on a plant with such a short grow? I expect it to go longer, but just curious. From other responses, it sounds like you always do. I usually just LST autos and mainline photos, but maybe I'll try GL on one of these..

  • mcubed476
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    Hey everyone, just throwing an update on how the girls are doing.

    The Bubba Cheese has a few brown spots on the leaves still, but looks healthy overall. This was the one that ended up being trilined because I broke a main stem. I trained the 2 lower branches away from the top one so they could all get more space to grow. As you can see in the pic of the trunks, the stems all started creeping towards the light, so the branches are all growing in the same direction now lol. They are powerful things, these plants lol.

    The White Widow CBD is looking good. She has one really good sized cola, and a lot of little ones lol. It is okay though because she will serve her purpose in a pill form. I'll be following nebula Haze's tutorial for that.

    Today is day 75 for the both of them and they will be ready in a few weeks. The Bubba Kush in the pic is at day 105. I imagine they will all be done around the same time. The younger 2 are much farther along than the bubba was at that point.

    Have a great day everyone, and feel free to post pics of your plants that you have started quadlining!

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