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    #46
    A view of the current set up that they will stay in for another week maybe 10 days.

    I still have some elements I'm working on. I need to do a test run with both lights on and see how hot it gets. I may have to add a small ac unit, but that's no big deal. They're cheap and all over Craig's list and FB
    Current Grow: seeds in July 3rd, 2017

    7'x6'x8' custom built room w/ exhaust and carbon filter
    3 (1 not in use yet) 600w IPower dimmable MH/HPS

    Top Fed DWC Bubbleponics
    GH Trio, Hydroguard, and GH Ph kit.
    Strains: all Seedsman, all Feminized, all Fast.
    2 Cinderella 99 x Blueberry
    1 Power Africa x MK Ultra
    2 Big Nugs
    Training: Nebula's modified manifold technique w/ LST as needed.

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    • alltatup
      alltatup commented
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      Looks very good! Lots of room to train them.

    • IanHale
      IanHale commented
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      Plenty of room for training. I picked up a 430w HPS today for free to add into the room for flowering.

      My plan is to use Nebula's modified manifold technique on all 5 plants. 8 main colas per plant...even if I screw up I should still get decent yields

    #47
    These girls are going crazy fast!!!!

    5th node just appeared this afternoon...

    Resevoir change in about a hour with graduation from 1/4 nutes to half nutes.

    Next week all the girls get their own rooms and the second 600w get put into play.
    Current Grow: seeds in July 3rd, 2017

    7'x6'x8' custom built room w/ exhaust and carbon filter
    3 (1 not in use yet) 600w IPower dimmable MH/HPS

    Top Fed DWC Bubbleponics
    GH Trio, Hydroguard, and GH Ph kit.
    Strains: all Seedsman, all Feminized, all Fast.
    2 Cinderella 99 x Blueberry
    1 Power Africa x MK Ultra
    2 Big Nugs
    Training: Nebula's modified manifold technique w/ LST as needed.

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    • IanHale
      IanHale commented
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      Hit a roadblock with the reservoir change...my hydroguard is frozen solid. The little mini fridge I just bought was set way too cold.

      I'm trying to decide if I can skip the hydroguard for a week...or let it thaw out and use it anyway or drive 15 miles and buy a replacement and do my change after work tomorrow.

    • alltatup
      alltatup commented
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      I'd let it thaw, use it and contact Botanicare and ask if it's still good. It can't do any harm.

      Or you can drive...

    • IanHale
      IanHale commented
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      Letting it thaw under the grow light right now. I'm gonna use it and keep an eye on the roots. As long as they're thick and white I'm happy.

      Gonna order some more just to be on the safe side.

    #48
    The 5th reservoir in the back corner will get it's own 400w light.
    Current Grow: seeds in July 3rd, 2017

    7'x6'x8' custom built room w/ exhaust and carbon filter
    3 (1 not in use yet) 600w IPower dimmable MH/HPS

    Top Fed DWC Bubbleponics
    GH Trio, Hydroguard, and GH Ph kit.
    Strains: all Seedsman, all Feminized, all Fast.
    2 Cinderella 99 x Blueberry
    1 Power Africa x MK Ultra
    2 Big Nugs
    Training: Nebula's modified manifold technique w/ LST as needed.

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      #49
      These girls are growing so quickly I notice changes in just a few hours. I go to work or sleep and even more noticeable growth. Crazy fast growth. I took two pics of each plant. Side and top view. Not gonna post em all just a few.
      Current Grow: seeds in July 3rd, 2017

      7'x6'x8' custom built room w/ exhaust and carbon filter
      3 (1 not in use yet) 600w IPower dimmable MH/HPS

      Top Fed DWC Bubbleponics
      GH Trio, Hydroguard, and GH Ph kit.
      Strains: all Seedsman, all Feminized, all Fast.
      2 Cinderella 99 x Blueberry
      1 Power Africa x MK Ultra
      2 Big Nugs
      Training: Nebula's modified manifold technique w/ LST as needed.

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      • alltatup
        alltatup commented
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        Don't you love it when they do that? Happy campers!

      • IanHale
        IanHale commented
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        It's astonishing to me how rapidly they grow.

        I did a resevoir change and upped their nutes from 1/4 to 1/2. Got a 400 MH bulb on the way and the 5th pump too. They all get their new homes at the next res change. At the rate they're going though I'll be topping them by Thursday, 3 days to recover and then move into new res. Then my power bill gets retarded high until end of Veg and only severe head injury stupid high during flowering.

        I'm slightly OCD so I literally have to lock myself out of the room and find something useful to do instead of staring at the plants and willing them to grow

      • alltatup
        alltatup commented
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        Ian, I think the more quality time you spend with your plants, the better! Read to them, sing to them, play music, or just chill in there reading to yourself. I believe they love our guardian presence in the grow room. Sometimes me and the dog just chill in there, for a long time...

      #50
      I might top them and start the manifolds tonight. They're big enough. I'll see when I get home from work (DJ at a gentlemans club)
      Current Grow: seeds in July 3rd, 2017

      7'x6'x8' custom built room w/ exhaust and carbon filter
      3 (1 not in use yet) 600w IPower dimmable MH/HPS

      Top Fed DWC Bubbleponics
      GH Trio, Hydroguard, and GH Ph kit.
      Strains: all Seedsman, all Feminized, all Fast.
      2 Cinderella 99 x Blueberry
      1 Power Africa x MK Ultra
      2 Big Nugs
      Training: Nebula's modified manifold technique w/ LST as needed.

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      • IanHale
        IanHale commented
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        I'm gonna wait on topping them. PM2 is the current size leader

      #51
      Topped the girls and defoliated. Now we wait for the recovery.
      Current Grow: seeds in July 3rd, 2017

      7'x6'x8' custom built room w/ exhaust and carbon filter
      3 (1 not in use yet) 600w IPower dimmable MH/HPS

      Top Fed DWC Bubbleponics
      GH Trio, Hydroguard, and GH Ph kit.
      Strains: all Seedsman, all Feminized, all Fast.
      2 Cinderella 99 x Blueberry
      1 Power Africa x MK Ultra
      2 Big Nugs
      Training: Nebula's modified manifold technique w/ LST as needed.

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      • alltatup
        alltatup commented
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        The topping job looks really good, and I'm glad to hear the roots are white!!! You didn't screw up, they should bounce back with vigor.

      • IanHale
        IanHale commented
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        Thank you!

        This being my first grow since 96 I need to hear these reassurances.

        Looking at the plants from one week ago compared to today (pre-topped), I am fascinated and astonished at the rapidity at which they grow.

        I just examined where I made my cuts, and they are already (literally within 30 minutes) showing recovery.

      • alltatup
        alltatup commented
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        I topped for the first time on one of my two grows, and the same thing happened. They just shot up like crazy afterwards. It is pretty amazing how fast they grow at times.

      #52
      The roots...the roots...the roots are all white we just neeed some water let this motherfucker grow
      Current Grow: seeds in July 3rd, 2017

      7'x6'x8' custom built room w/ exhaust and carbon filter
      3 (1 not in use yet) 600w IPower dimmable MH/HPS

      Top Fed DWC Bubbleponics
      GH Trio, Hydroguard, and GH Ph kit.
      Strains: all Seedsman, all Feminized, all Fast.
      2 Cinderella 99 x Blueberry
      1 Power Africa x MK Ultra
      2 Big Nugs
      Training: Nebula's modified manifold technique w/ LST as needed.

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      • alltatup
        alltatup commented
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        Beautiful, pristine, pure as the driven snow roots!!!

      • IanHale
        IanHale commented
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        Like angel hair pasta. What's amusing to me is that CB1 was originally the strongest, now it is lagging behind the other 4. PM2 (whose roots are shown) already has the growth tips open and the next node coming in. CB2 and BN1&2 are about tied size wise.

        I'm trying to decide which of the 5 will sit under the 400w either the strongest or the weakest as it will get the most light when the 2 600's are going too. As soon as my 5th water pump arrives they're going into their own homes and the rest of the lights come on.

      • alltatup
        alltatup commented
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        "Like angel hair pasta": that's a good one!!!

      #53
      I'm an idiot.

      @allatup you noticed the slight curling to the leaves. I raised the light two inches...

      still was getting more curl. Just went out to the workshop to lock up and I noticed my light was still on...

      the poor girls have been getting 24hrs of light since I changed the water. No wonder they were curling. They will get 5.5 hours of rest and back to 18/6.

      Current Grow: seeds in July 3rd, 2017

      7'x6'x8' custom built room w/ exhaust and carbon filter
      3 (1 not in use yet) 600w IPower dimmable MH/HPS

      Top Fed DWC Bubbleponics
      GH Trio, Hydroguard, and GH Ph kit.
      Strains: all Seedsman, all Feminized, all Fast.
      2 Cinderella 99 x Blueberry
      1 Power Africa x MK Ultra
      2 Big Nugs
      Training: Nebula's modified manifold technique w/ LST as needed.

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      • IanHale
        IanHale commented
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        I was resynching them up to the proper time after a power outage experienced during germination. I totally forgot to switch it from on back to timer.

        I was also puzzled by the amount of heat in the workshop during the day....thankfully the temp/RH monitor I have in the room showed a high of 85 F and low of 81 with RH high of 59 and low of 51.

        Aside from the accidental 72 hour day the conditions inside the room are perfect for vegging.

      • alltatup
        alltatup commented
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        I had a power outage earlier this week and I forgot as well!!

      • IanHale
        IanHale commented
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        Update on the leaf curl.

        I also noticed some spotting on CB2's fans.

        Pretty sure it is wind burn. Gonna have to reposition my fans tonight

      #54
      Before, after, and 24 hours later
      Current Grow: seeds in July 3rd, 2017

      7'x6'x8' custom built room w/ exhaust and carbon filter
      3 (1 not in use yet) 600w IPower dimmable MH/HPS

      Top Fed DWC Bubbleponics
      GH Trio, Hydroguard, and GH Ph kit.
      Strains: all Seedsman, all Feminized, all Fast.
      2 Cinderella 99 x Blueberry
      1 Power Africa x MK Ultra
      2 Big Nugs
      Training: Nebula's modified manifold technique w/ LST as needed.

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      • alltatup
        alltatup commented
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        She liked it!!!!!!!!!!!

      • IanHale
        IanHale commented
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        PM2 is blowing the others away. Biggest root system, biggest spread, most growth.

        I'm thinking that she will get the 400w for herself while the other 4 split the two 600's

      #55
      O M F G

      I was pushing down on the growth on PM2 and snapped the manifold branch almost entirely off!

      if there was ever a reason for me to quit drinking...aside from the impending birth of my daughter...severely damaging my healthiest plant is unforgivable.

      i taped it up within two minutes and added a lil support for the broken branch made of card stock.

      painful lesson
      Current Grow: seeds in July 3rd, 2017

      7'x6'x8' custom built room w/ exhaust and carbon filter
      3 (1 not in use yet) 600w IPower dimmable MH/HPS

      Top Fed DWC Bubbleponics
      GH Trio, Hydroguard, and GH Ph kit.
      Strains: all Seedsman, all Feminized, all Fast.
      2 Cinderella 99 x Blueberry
      1 Power Africa x MK Ultra
      2 Big Nugs
      Training: Nebula's modified manifold technique w/ LST as needed.

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      • IanHale
        IanHale commented
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        Not heavily. Six shots. I got off work at 4am. Got home smoked and did the shots.

        I've done some bad stuff while blackout drunk in the past...so I limit what I drink...but I felt worse about this than I did beating the shit out of a 22 year old kid who drew a gun on me. (He tried to rape my best friend and surrogate daughter so I was justifiably angry...but not being a fan of violence I felt bad afterwards)

      • IanHale
        IanHale commented
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        I'm deflecting and giving out a more interesting topic than the one at hand.

        I'm just so upset with myself

      • alltatup
        alltatup commented
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        Sorry, Ian, I was just joking around!! I don't hold it against you for beating the shit out of a rapist... My bad.

        I have broken stalks, and if you tape them good and tight, most of the time they mend.

      #56
      If you train your plants eventually you will snap one at least once. Like riding a bike, nobody learned without crashing. The bright side is you can clone the ones you snap. I speak from experience 🤔 I've crashed and cloned😁 cheers
      "Life is not about being dealt a great hand but playing a poor hand well"...

      •Roots Organics over kindsoil in 5gal fabric pots

      •600w hps supplement w/Kind LEDs during flower

      •4" can-fan w/can-filter(carbon)

      •14,000btu air conditioner

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      • IanHale
        IanHale commented
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        I wish I had the gear to clone. I was gonna try cloning on my 3rd grow.

        Right now though it is not looking good. The next day or so will tell.

        At least I can just veg longer and train the damaged plant in a single spiral around the resevoir.

      #57
      The broken girl 23 hours later

      Current Grow: seeds in July 3rd, 2017

      7'x6'x8' custom built room w/ exhaust and carbon filter
      3 (1 not in use yet) 600w IPower dimmable MH/HPS

      Top Fed DWC Bubbleponics
      GH Trio, Hydroguard, and GH Ph kit.
      Strains: all Seedsman, all Feminized, all Fast.
      2 Cinderella 99 x Blueberry
      1 Power Africa x MK Ultra
      2 Big Nugs
      Training: Nebula's modified manifold technique w/ LST as needed.

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      • alltatup
        alltatup commented
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        She's not dead!!

      • alltatup
        alltatup commented
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        Yeah I can see the wilting but it looks like the newest growth is hangin in there. Time will tell.

      • IanHale
        IanHale commented
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        That new growth still looking ok makes me think that I got her taped in time and that she drew moisture and materials from the larger leaves to reconnect with the well nourished main stalk, protecting the new shoots.

        Biologically speaking that makes sense. I'm hoping she heals up fully and that half of her revitalizes.

      #58
      She is wilted on one side...I'm hoping she recovers but the unbroken side is filling in well.

      Im glad this happened with this plant...this one has 2-3 times the root mass of the others and can regenerate faster.

      Im hoping her arm can be saved though. Time will tell.

      Current Grow: seeds in July 3rd, 2017

      7'x6'x8' custom built room w/ exhaust and carbon filter
      3 (1 not in use yet) 600w IPower dimmable MH/HPS

      Top Fed DWC Bubbleponics
      GH Trio, Hydroguard, and GH Ph kit.
      Strains: all Seedsman, all Feminized, all Fast.
      2 Cinderella 99 x Blueberry
      1 Power Africa x MK Ultra
      2 Big Nugs
      Training: Nebula's modified manifold technique w/ LST as needed.

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        #59
        A close up of the new growth just above the band aid
        Current Grow: seeds in July 3rd, 2017

        7'x6'x8' custom built room w/ exhaust and carbon filter
        3 (1 not in use yet) 600w IPower dimmable MH/HPS

        Top Fed DWC Bubbleponics
        GH Trio, Hydroguard, and GH Ph kit.
        Strains: all Seedsman, all Feminized, all Fast.
        2 Cinderella 99 x Blueberry
        1 Power Africa x MK Ultra
        2 Big Nugs
        Training: Nebula's modified manifold technique w/ LST as needed.

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          #60
          Looks like You did a great job doctoring on your plant , 3or4 days from now you will never know you had a problem ,goodluck.
          Cfls for a week or two
          315lec for everything else
          Dug up Ms.topsoil, with perlite added
          36x36x63 inch tent.
          6inch - exaust - intake fans an scrubber
          Smart pots
          Molasses
          Autoflowers

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